What do people consider the most prestigious college in the Midwest?

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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!



Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.



You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.


Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.


Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.


My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.
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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for sure.

Oberlin for small liberal arts undergrad.


Oberlin? Sorry, no. Carleton and Grinnell.


Carleton? Great school, but sorry, too cold. Former Minnesotan here. I prefer Oberlin.
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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for sure.

Oberlin for small liberal arts undergrad.


Oberlin? Sorry, no. Carleton and Grinnell.


Carleton? Great school, but sorry, too cold. Former Minnesotan here. I prefer Oberlin.


I'm not sure prestige is typically impacted by temperatures. Boston and New Hampshire get plenty cold and yet have prestigious colleges (and yes I lived in all 3 places and the winters are pretty similar).
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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for sure.

Oberlin for small liberal arts undergrad.


Oberlin? Sorry, no. Carleton and Grinnell.


Carleton? Great school, but sorry, too cold. Former Minnesotan here. I prefer Oberlin.


I'm not sure prestige is typically impacted by temperatures. Boston and New Hampshire get plenty cold and yet have prestigious colleges (and yes I lived in all 3 places and the winters are pretty similar).



Dunno about Boston and NH. Minnesota is absolutely miserable from August to March - that's 6 months out of a year.
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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for sure.

Oberlin for small liberal arts undergrad.


Oberlin? Sorry, no. Carleton and Grinnell.


Carleton? Great school, but sorry, too cold. Former Minnesotan here. I prefer Oberlin.


I'm not sure prestige is typically impacted by temperatures. Boston and New Hampshire get plenty cold and yet have prestigious colleges (and yes I lived in all 3 places and the winters are pretty similar).



Dunno about Boston and NH. Minnesota is absolutely miserable from August to March - that's 6 months out of a year.

Seriously? Do explain how Minnesota is “miserable” in August.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!



Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.



You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.


Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.


Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.


My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.



Very very doubtful. Or maybe you don't know your husband's business Or maybe your husband doesn't know what he's talking about. U. of Chicago is ranked right behind Princeton and Harvard. NO ONE compares it to Notre Dame Go look at the selectivity ratings and entering class GPAs and test scores.
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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!



Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.



You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.


Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.


Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.


My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.



Very very doubtful. Or maybe you don't know your husband's business Or maybe your husband doesn't know what he's talking about. U. of Chicago is ranked right behind Princeton and Harvard. NO ONE compares it to Notre Dame Go look at the selectivity ratings and entering class GPAs and test scores.

NP.

Your mistake is assuming that a company makes its hiriing decisions based off what the average GPA/SAT score and acceptance rate was at the college the applicant attended. Sorry, but that’s not the way the real world works.
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My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.



Very very doubtful. Or maybe you don't know your husband's business Or maybe your husband doesn't know what he's talking about. U. of Chicago is ranked right behind Princeton and Harvard. NO ONE compares it to Notre Dame Go look at the selectivity ratings and entering class GPAs and test scores.

OK, test scores.
ACT 25- 75
Chicago- 32, 35
ND - 32- 35
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Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!



Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.



You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.


Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.


Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.


My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.



Very very doubtful. Or maybe you don't know your husband's business Or maybe your husband doesn't know what he's talking about. U. of Chicago is ranked right behind Princeton and Harvard. NO ONE compares it to Notre Dame Go look at the selectivity ratings and entering class GPAs and test scores.

NP.

Your mistake is assuming that a company makes its hiriing decisions based off what the average GPA/SAT score and acceptance rate was at the college the applicant attended. Sorry, but that’s not the way the real world works.



+1

Chicago attracts nerds. Notre Dame and Northwestern attract future leaders.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!



Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.



You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.


Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.


Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.


My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.


You know the hiring practices at your husband's "top" firm? How June Cleaver.

At our firm Chicago grads are on the top of the resume pile. ND in the middle.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!



Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.



You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.


Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.


Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.


My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.


You know the hiring practices at your husband's "top" firm? How June Cleaver.

At our firm Chicago grads are on the top of the resume pile. ND in the middle.


I know because our DS is applying there and it came up in the conversation. I just asked him and he said U of Chicago is not a school where they recruit much.

They like UND because applicants tend to be:

Bright
Mission driven (important)
Team players
Well rounded
Leadership potential
Excellent writers and communicators

Maybe you can find people like this at Chicago...maybe not as easy. DH tells me they hire MOST of their people from UND. This is a DC based worldwide consulting firm. My husband is a partner.

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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why do we need 16 pages on this? It's obvious U. of Chicago. https://www.collegeraptor.com/find-colleges/articles/2018-university-rankings/top-25-best-colleges-midwest-2018-rankings/

That’s right. If College Raptor says so, it must be. Glad we cleared that up!



Third in the U.S. for Universities after Princeton and Harvard. If you don't know Chicago's reputation there is just something wrong with you. U.S. News & world report. https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Chicago has a fine reputation. I just don’t understand the notion that a for-profit magazine is the arbiter of what the best colleges are.



You're one of the Catholics boosting for Notre Dame, right? Seriously, the answer for any guidance counselor is Chicago. Just go and compare GPA and test score to get in. This is not brain surgery.


Why is the assumption that the booster is Catholic? I'll tell you why...you have an issue with Catholics.


Oh FFS. I’m Catholic. ND is an excellent education. On par with Georgetown. But Chicago is a different league. If you are trying to impress the 60 year olds in your neighborhood, go ND. If you are trying to impress grad schools and employers, choose Chicago.

Not an alum of either school. No kid at either school.

There is no meaningful difference in the way employers and grad schools view UChicago and Notre Dame and anyone who tries to suggest there is is very off base.


My husband’s top consulting firm hires lots of kids from ND...never heard much about Chicago. They like the the excellent academics with a focus on service in the community.


You know the hiring practices at your husband's "top" firm? How June Cleaver.

At our firm Chicago grads are on the top of the resume pile. ND in the middle.


I know because our DS is applying there and it came up in the conversation. I just asked him and he said U of Chicago is not a school where they recruit much.

They like UND because applicants tend to be:

Bright
Mission driven (important)
Team players
Well rounded
Leadership potential
Excellent writers and communicators

Maybe you can find people like this at Chicago...maybe not as easy. DH tells me they hire MOST of their people from UND. This is a DC based worldwide consulting firm. My husband is a partner.



PP here, I would also add that DH acknowledges Chicago is an elite school with very bright kids...just not the kind they seek out.
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Anonymous wrote:Chicago for sure.

Oberlin for small liberal arts undergrad.


Oberlin? Sorry, no. Carleton and Grinnell.


Carleton? Great school, but sorry, too cold. Former Minnesotan here. I prefer Oberlin.


Well, other's don't.

Oberlin: 28 percent acceptance rate; 1250-1450 SAT; 29-33 ACT
Grinnell: 20 percent acceptance rate; 1320-1530; 30-33 ACT
Carleton: 22 percent acceptance rate; 1320-1540; 31-33 ACT

Both Grinnell and Carleton are significantly more selective than Oberlin
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Chicago for sure.

Oberlin for small liberal arts undergrad.


Oberlin? Sorry, no. Carleton and Grinnell.


Carleton? Great school, but sorry, too cold. Former Minnesotan here. I prefer Oberlin.


Well, other's don't.

Oberlin: 28 percent acceptance rate; 1250-1450 SAT; 29-33 ACT
Grinnell: 20 percent acceptance rate; 1320-1530; 30-33 ACT
Carleton: 22 percent acceptance rate; 1320-1540; 31-33 ACT

Both Grinnell and Carleton are significantly more selective than Oberlin


They’re also significantly less toxic environments.
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