Question for White Americans about the future of US

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Lol. You guys with your model minority bs. Federal and state government policies hurt AA families for centuries, passed civil rights bills ONLY 50 years ago, that mainly helps white women, and then you sit back and point the finger at AA families for their struggles. No one wants to talk about the generations of wealth stripped from AAs by white ppl and the government.

So happy I gave up on giving shit about you guys a long time ago. Your ignorance and bigotry will literally be the death of you. Trump is the perfect pill for this. And I'm loving the show.


Speaking about cultural issues negatively impacting education in the black community isn't something I would consider ignorance or bigotry. This denial has been going on for decades. I mean, why do you think the show "Cops" hasn't run out of material for the last 25 years?


[/b]Yeah, um, cultural issues are negatively impacting education for the majority of white Americans.[b] They seem to think the solution is more coal and factory jobs, lowering minimum wage, more guns and less health care.

I mean...?


Not factual. Lowering minimum wage??? LOL.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Oh I know you are crazy white women are the greatest beneficiary of affirmative action .
Go back to storm front .


Darling, this is DCUM. She will go back to that tasty catalog: Frontgate.

LOLOL!
You are right!!
Anonymous
Not factual. Lowering minimum wage??? LOL.


The idea that white people don't have a problem with culture and education is making me laugh a little bit harder.

High school and college drop outs, unwed pregnancy, intergenerational poverty, domestic violence, addiction, chronic disease, chronic unemployment, mental illness - all social ills suffered in much higher numbers by white people.

Maybe other races and cultures aren't your problem; maybe it's Darwinism. But that's not really funny, is it?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Not factual. Lowering minimum wage??? LOL.


The idea that white people don't have a problem with culture and education is making me laugh a little bit harder.

High school and college drop outs, unwed pregnancy, intergenerational poverty, domestic violence, addiction, chronic disease, chronic unemployment, mental illness - all social ills suffered in much higher numbers by white people.

Maybe other races and cultures aren't your problem; maybe it's Darwinism. But that's not really funny, is it?

Well of course the absolute numbers will be greater among whites because there are more whites. But proportionately, most of what you've listed is proportionately much higher among blacks - particularly unwed pregnancy, chronic unemployment, and domestic violence. (Black women are at a much higher risk of being murdered by their husbands than white woman, for example, and the unemployment rate among young black males is 50% in some cities.)

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. You guys with your model minority bs. Federal and state government policies hurt AA families for centuries, passed civil rights bills ONLY 50 years ago, that mainly helps white women, and then you sit back and point the finger at AA families for their struggles. No one wants to talk about the generations of wealth stripped from AAs by white ppl and the government.

So happy I gave up on giving shit about you guys a long time ago. Your ignorance and bigotry will literally be the death of you. Trump is the perfect pill for this. And I'm loving the show.

Look, I know you hate white people, but 50 years is two generations! Add in the benefits of affirmative action (and no....it doesn't help white women) in opening college doors, and we should have seen lots of improvement by now. If anything, it's gotten worse - and that's largely thanks to the skyrocketing out-of-wedlock births to young women who can't support their kids. Don't you think blacks have ANY responsibility? I mean, geez....look to the Asians and Jews, and see how well they've done by getting an education and not having babies without a husband. It's time to own up and admit that blacks bear at least some of the blame here.


Two generations? Do you hear yourself?

Affirmative action has mostly benefited whites women. Blacks are doing better. What about 350 years of affirmative action for whites? Why didn't whites run std experiments on Asians? Or injection crack into poor Jewish neighborhoods?? Why were redlining tactics, which still happen today, focused on blacks? Why do blacks have to pay more money than others to live in nonblack neighborhoods?

Again. Praise god for Trump. May his impulsive decision making and war mongering friends bring blessing to you and the USA.



1) Yes, two generations should be plenty - especially with the advantages of affirmative action, Pell grants, and other programs. Jews immigrated here to escape horrific religious persecution, with nothing more than a knapsack on their back and an 8th grade education, and a single generation later their kids are all college graduates.

2) Similar to above, most whites in this country cannot trace their lineage back 350 years. The "Mass Immigration" between 1882 and 1924 were poor, uneducated, persecuted minorities.

3) It's horrible that whites ran syphilis experiments on black men, but it was pretty damn bad when Christians marched 6 million Jews into gas chambers. Why have Jews been able to overcome that to succeed in society, and blacks like you are still blaming everyone else but themselves?

4) Blacks don't pay more to live in "non-black" neighborhoods, and whites didn't "inject" crack into black neighborhoods.

And after your entire rant, you still refuse to acknowledge that blacks living in poverty, generation after generation, have played a role in their situation. If the girls would stop having babies before they are married, they could break that cycle in one generation.


This.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Not factual. Lowering minimum wage??? LOL.


The idea that white people don't have a problem with culture and education is making me laugh a little bit harder.

High school and college drop outs, unwed pregnancy, intergenerational poverty, domestic violence, addiction, chronic disease, chronic unemployment, mental illness - all social ills suffered in much higher numbers by white people.

Maybe other races and cultures aren't your problem; maybe it's Darwinism. But that's not really funny, is it?

Well of course the absolute numbers will be greater among whites because there are more whites. But proportionately, most of what you've listed is proportionately much higher among blacks - particularly unwed pregnancy, chronic unemployment, and domestic violence. (Black women are at a much higher risk of being murdered by their husbands than white woman, for example, and the unemployment rate among young black males is 50% in some cities.)



One reason these problems continue to get worse, not better, with each generation is stigmatizing them as someone else's problem rather than as a problem that can be addressed and mitigated. Just a thought.

The opioid epidemic is only one example but it epitomizes how detrimental that line of thinking can be. Stigmatizing a problem can help it flourish. That goes for poverty, addiction, abuse in all its forms and whatever else you think exists solely in the realm of [fill in the blank] minority.

I don't know if it's irony or justice or just bad luck but opioids are killing white people at a very steady clip that's only getting faster. Maybe one reason this is happening is a steadfast adherence to some magical thinking that white people are better or somehow more resistant to bad judgement and illicit behavior. But the facts are clear: white people have much bigger problems than black or hispanic or muslim people.

If that's your focus, things are going to continue to go downhill.
Anonymous
Let's take a look at some facts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Higher amounts of opioids were prescribed in counties with a larger percentage of non-Hispanic whites; a higher prevalence of diabetes and arthritis; micropolitan counties; and counties with higher rates of unemployment and Medicaid enrollment.


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6626a4.htm

Start paying attention to real issues.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Let's take a look at some facts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Higher amounts of opioids were prescribed in counties with a larger percentage of non-Hispanic whites; a higher prevalence of diabetes and arthritis; micropolitan counties; and counties with higher rates of unemployment and Medicaid enrollment.


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6626a4.htm

Start paying attention to real issues.

yes, opioid abuse is a real problem among some whites. But how does bringing that up help the issues that are much more prevalent among blacks - skyrocketing out-of-wedlock births, generational poverty and chronic unemployment, domestic abuse, and so forth? Are these not "real issues" that blacks should focus on improving? Saying "well, whites have a problem with opioids more than blacks" does not excuse, defend, or help with the problems blacks have.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's take a look at some facts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Higher amounts of opioids were prescribed in counties with a larger percentage of non-Hispanic whites; a higher prevalence of diabetes and arthritis; micropolitan counties; and counties with higher rates of unemployment and Medicaid enrollment.


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6626a4.htm

Start paying attention to real issues.

yes, opioid abuse is a real problem among some whites. But how does bringing that up help the issues that are much more prevalent among blacks - skyrocketing out-of-wedlock births, generational poverty and chronic unemployment, domestic abuse, and so forth? Are these not "real issues" that blacks should focus on improving? Saying "well, whites have a problem with opioids more than blacks" does not excuse, defend, or help with the problems blacks have.


I don't know. Let's reverse some of the qualifiers in your post and see if that helps you with an answer.

yes, out-of-wedlock births, generational poverty and chronic unemployment, etc. is a real problem among some blacks. But how does bringing that up help the issues that are much more prevalent among whites- substance abuse, addiction, overdose deaths and so forth? Are these not "real issues" that whites should focus on improving? Saying "well, blacks have a problem with poverty and crime more than whites" does not excuse, defend, or help with the problems whites have.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Let's take a look at some facts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.


Higher amounts of opioids were prescribed in counties with a larger percentage of non-Hispanic whites; a higher prevalence of diabetes and arthritis; micropolitan counties; and counties with higher rates of unemployment and Medicaid enrollment.


https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6626a4.htm

Start paying attention to real issues.

yes, opioid abuse is a real problem among some whites. But how does bringing that up help the issues that are much more prevalent among blacks - skyrocketing out-of-wedlock births, generational poverty and chronic unemployment, domestic abuse, and so forth? Are these not "real issues" that blacks should focus on improving? Saying "well, whites have a problem with opioids more than blacks" does not excuse, defend, or help with the problems blacks have.


I don't know. Let's reverse some of the qualifiers in your post and see if that helps you with an answer.

yes, out-of-wedlock births, generational poverty and chronic unemployment, etc. is a real problem among some blacks. But how does bringing that up help the issues that are much more prevalent among whites- substance abuse, addiction, overdose deaths and so forth? Are these not "real issues" that whites should focus on improving? Saying "well, blacks have a problem with poverty and crime more than whites" does not excuse, defend, or help with the problems whites have.

Were you the one who said that whites have bigger problems than blacks? I was responding to that statement to show how ridiculous it is. (It's that "false equivalency" I always hear about.)

Other than the single issue you raised (drug addition and variations of it in some segments of the population - and I personally know NOBODY), that simply isn't true. Whites have higher levels of education, higher incomes, higher net worths, better overall health and longevity, much fewer out-of-wedlock births*, less domestic abuse, and less unemployment. You are trying to say that blacks and whites have "equal" problems, and it just isn't true.

*That's the #1 problem - three out of four black babies. Correct that, and the other problems, like generational poverty, lack of education, unemployment, lower incomes, etc. - will improve dramatically.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Oh I know you are crazy white women are the greatest beneficiary of affirmative action .
Go back to storm front .


Darling, this is DCUM. She will go back to that tasty catalog: Frontgate.

LOLOL!
You are right!!

I never even heard of Frontgate. I looked it up, and it's some shopping site. Is that what you meant?
Anonymous
Above PP - you are correct. Obama tried to highlight the issue of the defunct family and was chastised. Correct that issue and the other issues greatly diminish
Anonymous
The racial divide in the opioid epidemic

A 2008 JAMA study found minorities were less likely to receive opioids for pain in an emergency department compared to whites.

Some say physician prejudice leads many to prescribe opioids less frequently for black and Latino patients than for whites.

“It would appear that the prescriber may be more concerned about the possibility of the patient getting addicted or maybe the possibility that the pills will be diverted and sold on the street if the patient is black. If the patient is white, they may feel like there's nothing to worry about,” said Dr. Andrew Kolodny, executive director of Physicians for Responsible Opioid Prescribing.


No one can stop you if you want to keep racism alive. But it just might kill you.

The Addicts Next Door
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lol. You guys with your model minority bs. Federal and state government policies hurt AA families for centuries, passed civil rights bills ONLY 50 years ago, that mainly helps white women, and then you sit back and point the finger at AA families for their struggles. No one wants to talk about the generations of wealth stripped from AAs by white ppl and the government.

So happy I gave up on giving shit about you guys a long time ago. Your ignorance and bigotry will literally be the death of you. Trump is the perfect pill for this. And I'm loving the show.

Look, I know you hate white people, but 50 years is two generations! Add in the benefits of affirmative action (and no....it doesn't help white women) in opening college doors, and we should have seen lots of improvement by now. If anything, it's gotten worse - and that's largely thanks to the skyrocketing out-of-wedlock births to young women who can't support their kids. Don't you think blacks have ANY responsibility? I mean, geez....look to the Asians and Jews, and see how well they've done by getting an education and not having babies without a husband. It's time to own up and admit that blacks bear at least some of the blame here.


Two generations? Do you hear yourself?

Affirmative action has mostly benefited whites women. Blacks are doing better. What about 350 years of affirmative action for whites? Why didn't whites run std experiments on Asians? Or injection crack into poor Jewish neighborhoods?? Why were redlining tactics, which still happen today, focused on blacks? Why do blacks have to pay more money than others to live in nonblack neighborhoods?

Again. Praise god for Trump. May his impulsive decision making and war mongering friends bring blessing to you and the USA.



1) Yes, two generations should be plenty - especially with the advantages of affirmative action, Pell grants, and other programs. Jews immigrated here to escape horrific religious persecution, with nothing more than a knapsack on their back and an 8th grade education, and a single generation later their kids are all college graduates.

2) Similar to above, most whites in this country cannot trace their lineage back 350 years. The "Mass Immigration" between 1882 and 1924 were poor, uneducated, persecuted minorities.

3) It's horrible that whites ran syphilis experiments on black men, but it was pretty damn bad when Christians marched 6 million Jews into gas chambers. Why have Jews been able to overcome that to succeed in society, and blacks like you are still blaming everyone else but themselves?

4) Blacks don't pay more to live in "non-black" neighborhoods, and whites didn't "inject" crack into black neighborhoods.

And after your entire rant, you still refuse to acknowledge that blacks living in poverty, generation after generation, have played a role in their situation. If the girls would stop having babies before they are married, they could break that cycle in one generation.



I don't think marriage is a requirement at all, but all woman should be financially secure and have a support system in place before having children IMO. It's a shame the current administration is slashing programs that can help with education and reproductive choices. If anything we need MORE of these programs.
Anonymous
Speaking of families...

Drug Addiction Epidemic Creates Crisis in Foster Care

The epidemic is also breaking budgets for state and county jails. If Congress cuts Medicaid and makes it a block grant for states, care for addicted inmates is going to suck up all the funds.
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