Big Little Lies HBO

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Anonymous wrote:I absolutely can't stand Celeste's husband, Perry - and I felt this way before he was shown being physically violent with her. There is something so revolting about him, the way he pouts when she tells him she's doing something (like taking the kids to Frozen on Ice, or when the first day of school didn't include going in to meet the teacher). He is one controlling SOB. Even when Celeste was asking her therapist for help in telling Perry that she wanted to go back to work, I couldn't believe she didn't hear her own words. She was saying that Perry limits her friends, doesn't like her to leave the house, is very possessive, etc. etc. Classic traits of an abuser, and yet - this very intelligent woman doesn't want to acknowledge it? Is it that she actually does enjoy on some level the abuse? It honestly gives me the creeps to see those two together.

The scene where she tells him she has to meet with the client again, and he grabs her hair right before one of the kids comes in, was chilling. She just pretended nothing at all happened. What is wrong with Celeste???

Totally agree. However, I do think she could have mentioned the first day of school would be a non-event when she found out he cancelled work plans for first day.

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Anonymous wrote:I have not read the book.

I have not read these two topics mentioned that I wanted to throw out there, because they have struck me as perhaps bigger issues even though they get little airtime.

1) Bonnie's complete lack of parenting Abigail and almost being the buddy instead of a bonus mom. I don't think she's as sweet as she seems. First she takes Abigail to planned parenthood without telling Nathan or Madeline. Second, last week she allowed Abigail to run off on what probably was a school, to go out with friends and probably taking alcohol with her,not asking where she's going, who she is going with and against Nathan's concerns.

2). Ed and his weird sexual attractions and statements. First he catches himself staring at Abigail in what is inferred as an unconventional stepfather/ stepdaughter way when she is outside taking pictures. Is Abigail aware of Ed's stares, had this happened before, could this have something to do with her wanting to move out and in with her father and Bonnie? Second, last week Ed goes to Bonnie's yoga studio and gawks at the women taking the yoga class, including Bonnie and makes a weird, inappropriate statement to her re how he likes to look at sweaty women?! WTF?!

We'll all be watching to see how or whether this plays out in the series.

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Anonymous wrote:I absolutely can't stand Celeste's husband, Perry - and I felt this way before he was shown being physically violent with her. There is something so revolting about him, the way he pouts when she tells him she's doing something (like taking the kids to Frozen on Ice, or when the first day of school didn't include going in to meet the teacher). He is one controlling SOB. Even when Celeste was asking her therapist for help in telling Perry that she wanted to go back to work, I couldn't believe she didn't hear her own words. She was saying that Perry limits her friends, doesn't like her to leave the house, is very possessive, etc. etc. Classic traits of an abuser, and yet - this very intelligent woman doesn't want to acknowledge it? Is it that she actually does enjoy on some level the abuse? It honestly gives me the creeps to see those two together.

The scene where she tells him she has to meet with the client again, and he grabs her hair right before one of the kids comes in, was chilling. She just pretended nothing at all happened. What is wrong with Celeste???

None of this is an accident by the writer. No one who knows about abusive relationships would be surprised by any of this.

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Anonymous wrote:Another plead for posters to stop drawing comparisons with the book. Even if you don't think you're spoiling it in any way. Can we just talk about the show only and pretend a book doesn't even exist? I'm happy to start another thread if there is anyone else interested in talking about series without ever mentioning a book.

Exactly. This was even suggested earlier - starting a new thread with book discussions/comparisons - but so far, no one has stopped talking about the book in this thread. Please stop. It's easy enough to start a new thread, and many of us simply don't want to know how the show is differing from the book. We're taking the show at face value and don't need a blow-by-blow comparison to the book.

Start a new thread.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely can't stand Celeste's husband, Perry - and I felt this way before he was shown being physically violent with her. There is something so revolting about him, the way he pouts when she tells him she's doing something (like taking the kids to Frozen on Ice, or when the first day of school didn't include going in to meet the teacher). He is one controlling SOB. Even when Celeste was asking her therapist for help in telling Perry that she wanted to go back to work, I couldn't believe she didn't hear her own words. She was saying that Perry limits her friends, doesn't like her to leave the house, is very possessive, etc. etc. Classic traits of an abuser, and yet - this very intelligent woman doesn't want to acknowledge it? Is it that she actually does enjoy on some level the abuse? It honestly gives me the creeps to see those two together.

The scene where she tells him she has to meet with the client again, and he grabs her hair right before one of the kids comes in, was chilling. She just pretended nothing at all happened. What is wrong with Celeste???

Totally agree. However, I do think she could have mentioned the first day of school would be a non-event when she found out he cancelled work plans for first day.

PP here, and this is true. I wonder if subconsciously, she's being passive aggressive in the hopes that Perry will react by hurting her? She seems to enjoy that a lot, even though she's ashamed to admit it.

[Anonymous]

Loving the series. It's really well done all around. I expect it will garner an Emmy nom in every catergory its eligible (and at least 2 noms for best actress).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely can't stand Celeste's husband, Perry - and I felt this way before he was shown being physically violent with her. There is something so revolting about him, the way he pouts when she tells him she's doing something (like taking the kids to Frozen on Ice, or when the first day of school didn't include going in to meet the teacher). He is one controlling SOB. Even when Celeste was asking her therapist for help in telling Perry that she wanted to go back to work, I couldn't believe she didn't hear her own words. She was saying that Perry limits her friends, doesn't like her to leave the house, is very possessive, etc. etc. Classic traits of an abuser, and yet - this very intelligent woman doesn't want to acknowledge it? Is it that she actually does enjoy on some level the abuse? It honestly gives me the creeps to see those two together.

The scene where she tells him she has to meet with the client again, and he grabs her hair right before one of the kids comes in, was chilling. She just pretended nothing at all happened. What is wrong with Celeste???

Totally agree. However, I do think she could have mentioned the first day of school would be a non-event when she found out he cancelled work plans for first day.

PP here, and this is true. I wonder if subconsciously, she's being passive aggressive in the hopes that Perry will react by hurting her? She seems to enjoy that a lot, even though she's ashamed to admit it.

He didn't grab her hair; he grabbed her throat.

[Anonymous]

Another incredible therapy session for Celeste.
Just Give Nicole Kidman Her Emmy Now
http://www.tvguide.com/news/big-little-lies-nicole-kidman-emmy/?ftag=twtrsoshares

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Anonymous wrote:Have we talked about the cost of the real estate in this series?

There is no way Madeleine and Ed could afford their house. Administrative director of a community theater and a web site designer? $14.8 million? I know tv always stretches these things but this goes beyond the standard "suspension of disbelief." LOL

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/big-little-lies-houses-cost-location.html

I assume Ed isn't simply a "web site designer," but probably owns some sort of IT company that made millions when it sold. That area is crawling with internet zillionaires.

In one of the episodes he said he was working on 'drone technology'.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I absolutely can't stand Celeste's husband, Perry - and I felt this way before he was shown being physically violent with her. There is something so revolting about him, the way he pouts when she tells him she's doing something (like taking the kids to Frozen on Ice, or when the first day of school didn't include going in to meet the teacher). He is one controlling SOB. Even when Celeste was asking her therapist for help in telling Perry that she wanted to go back to work, I couldn't believe she didn't hear her own words. She was saying that Perry limits her friends, doesn't like her to leave the house, is very possessive, etc. etc. Classic traits of an abuser, and yet - this very intelligent woman doesn't want to acknowledge it? Is it that she actually does enjoy on some level the abuse? It honestly gives me the creeps to see those two together.

The scene where she tells him she has to meet with the client again, and he grabs her hair right before one of the kids comes in, was chilling. She just pretended nothing at all happened. What is wrong with Celeste???

Totally agree. However, I do think she could have mentioned the first day of school would be a non-event when she found out he cancelled work plans for first day.

PP here, and this is true. I wonder if subconsciously, she's being passive aggressive in the hopes that Perry will react by hurting her? She seems to enjoy that a lot, even though she's ashamed to admit it.

This. I am getting so unnerved by their interactions. If they are alone, she snarks and he reacts violently. Then the make up sex. Over and over. It's annoying and stressful at the same time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Another incredible therapy session for Celeste.
Just Give Nicole Kidman Her Emmy Now
http://www.tvguide.com/news/big-little-lies-nicole-kidman-emmy/?ftag=twtrsoshares

Psychiatrist here. The therapist scenes are textbook perfect of an abusive relationship. Kidman is spot on.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another incredible therapy session for Celeste.
Just Give Nicole Kidman Her Emmy Now
http://www.tvguide.com/news/big-little-lies-nicole-kidman-emmy/?ftag=twtrsoshares

Psychiatrist here. The therapist scenes are textbook perfect of an abusive relationship. Kidman is spot on.

I can't take Perry and Celeste anymore. After the flashbacks this weekend of him freaking out over the legos and crushing her face into the sofa I wanted to grab through the tv and yank her out. Her bruises are getting bigger IMO, he's getting worse. And the therapist is 100% on to him. I hope Celeste goes back to her and finally leaves him!!!!

[Anonymous]

I'm not reading other's comments because I don't want to hear/read what happens, but OMG- the suspense is really building up. So many of them are on the edge! Loving this series!

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I'm kind of dying to know WTF is happening with the kids- at the same time I almost want to read a spoiler to ensure the murder doesn't involve any children, I don't think I want to watch that!

There are 2 left right? If so I think I will try to restrain myself and watch them back to back instead of a week apart.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Another incredible therapy session for Celeste.
Just Give Nicole Kidman Her Emmy Now
http://www.tvguide.com/news/big-little-lies-nicole-kidman-emmy/?ftag=twtrsoshares

Psychiatrist here. The therapist scenes are textbook perfect of an abusive relationship. Kidman is spot on.

I can't take Perry and Celeste anymore. After the flashbacks this weekend of him freaking out over the legos and crushing her face into the sofa I wanted to grab through the tv and yank her out. Her bruises are getting bigger IMO, he's getting worse. And the therapist is 100% on to him. I hope Celeste goes back to her and finally leaves him!!!!

It did seem like this was Celeste's breakthrough session. And the therapist is demanding more from Celeste. These sessions are well-written and well-acted.