TO THE MOM WHO RED SHIRTED HER SON AND COMPLAINS HE'S NOT CHALLENGED

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Part of our overmedicated society.

Maybe if people didn't redshirt, the younger part of the class wouldn't feel so anxious.

Once again - the prevalence of redshirting is around 3.5% in the most recent studies. This means that 1 or no children will be likely to be redshirted in your child's classroom. Personally I know for my boy's concerns, the presence of one child who was 12-15 months older wouldn't make a difference.

There are 4 in my child's MCPS 1st grade class of 24. That is a tad more than 3%.

we have 4 in a class of 19

In our class of 25, about 12 were redshirted/had late birthdays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of our overmedicated society.

Maybe if people didn't redshirt, the younger part of the class wouldn't feel so anxious.

Once again - the prevalence of redshirting is around 3.5% in the most recent studies. This means that 1 or no children will be likely to be redshirted in your child's classroom. Personally I know for my boy's concerns, the presence of one child who was 12-15 months older wouldn't make a difference.

There are 4 in my child's MCPS 1st grade class of 24. That is a tad more than 3%.

we have 4 in a class of 19

In our class of 25, about 12 were redshirted/had late birthdays.

Late birthdays isn't redshirting. They're just late birthdays. The school district sets rules about how old you have to be to start K. Parents are expected to follow those rules. If your kid has a fall or early winter birthday, you don't really have a choice about starting school when they are almost 6. Don't lump those kids in with kids whose parents made a choice to start late. The school district says that kids with late birthdays aren't ready.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It actually is very tough. Our kid was socially immature with an August bday so we held him back. but yeah, kindergarten is not very academically challenging for him. I wouldn't complain about it to other parents though.

What exactly does socially immature mean? Can you give an example?

Not PP, but my socially immature child at 5 had difficulty regulating his emotions and still threw tantrums. (Sometimes daily) He never hit, but the fits were epic. He had difficulty following directions. He had difficulty sharing and engaging in group play. He had difficulty sitting in a seat.

But, and I am truly not trying to be argumentative here, absent a diagnosis isnt lot of that just personality? In a class of three-year-olds, some will follow directions well and play well in groups. Some will not. Some kids are more emotional than others. A teacher is used to the spectrum of kids who are all the same age yet different personalities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of our overmedicated society.

Maybe if people didn't redshirt, the younger part of the class wouldn't feel so anxious.

Once again - the prevalence of redshirting is around 3.5% in the most recent studies. This means that 1 or no children will be likely to be redshirted in your child's classroom. Personally I know for my boy's concerns, the presence of one child who was 12-15 months older wouldn't make a difference.

There are 4 in my child's MCPS 1st grade class of 24. That is a tad more than 3%.

we have 4 in a class of 19

In our class of 25, about 12 were redshirted/had late birthdays.

What are you defining as a late birthday? If a child is born in the September to August of his age group, he's not redshirted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of our overmedicated society.

Maybe if people didn't redshirt, the younger part of the class wouldn't feel so anxious.

Once again - the prevalence of redshirting is around 3.5% in the most recent studies. This means that 1 or no children will be likely to be redshirted in your child's classroom. Personally I know for my boy's concerns, the presence of one child who was 12-15 months older wouldn't make a difference.

There are 4 in my child's MCPS 1st grade class of 24. That is a tad more than 3%.

we have 4 in a class of 19

In our class of 25, about 12 were redshirted/had late birthdays.

What are you defining as a late birthday? If a child is born in the September to August of his age group, he's not redshirted.

You are right. Of those 12 there were 6 or 7 (don't remember) legit redshirted kids born anywhere between April and August. If I remember correctly they were all boys. The others must have been September birthdays (after the cut off). My late august son went on time. I also meant to say those were in his class- there were 3 other Kindergartens with other redshirted kids.

FF to 2nd grade now and at least one of the Redshirted boys mother complains that her son is not challenged.

I kind of wish they had older kids in one class and younger in the other. I'm sure it's shortsighted but it would help some issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Part of our overmedicated society.

Maybe if people didn't redshirt, the younger part of the class wouldn't feel so anxious.

Once again - the prevalence of redshirting is around 3.5% in the most recent studies. This means that 1 or no children will be likely to be redshirted in your child's classroom. Personally I know for my boy's concerns, the presence of one child who was 12-15 months older wouldn't make a difference.

There are 4 in my child's MCPS 1st grade class of 24. That is a tad more than 3%.

we have 4 in a class of 19

In our class of 25, about 12 were redshirted/had late birthdays.

What are you defining as a late birthday? If a child is born in the September to August of his age group, he's not redshirted.

You are right. Of those 12 there were 6 or 7 (don't remember) legit redshirted kids born anywhere between April and August. If I remember correctly they were all boys. The others must have been September birthdays (after the cut off). My late august son went on time. I also meant to say those were in his class- there were 3 other Kindergartens with other redshirted kids.

FF to 2nd grade now and at least one of the Redshirted boys mother complains that her son is not challenged.

I kind of wish they had older kids in one class and younger in the other. I'm sure it's shortsighted but it would help some issues.

Parents are redshirting boys born in APRIL?? That's obscene and shouldn't be allowed.

[Anonymous]

Yep. April was the oldest in my sons class. Plus, I personally know of other kids in different grades who are April/May. My friend- her son was *tiny tiny* with some speech problems- was an April/May too and she held him back. Although I could honestly see it in her situation.

[Anonymous]

OP again- Red shirting spring birthdays in our area is becoming increasingly common- or at least it seems to me.
The mom that caused me to write the OP is "looking" now at gifted programs for her son because our school isn't challenging him. She's very quick to point out that her son has a genius IQ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP again- Red shirting spring birthdays in our area is becoming increasingly common- or at least it seems to me.
The mom that caused me to write the OP is "looking" now at gifted programs for her son because our school isn't challenging him. She's very quick to point out that her son has a genius IQ.

I'm 9:18- I wonder if we are in the same school. Thats what that one mom keeps saying about her very high IQ son and how he should be getting nothing but ES's for grades b/c he's SO smart. (Which I don't doubt he is but we are also comparing to kids that are on time)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It actually is very tough. Our kid was socially immature with an August bday so we held him back. but yeah, kindergarten is not very academically challenging for him. I wouldn't complain about it to other parents though.

What exactly does socially immature mean? Can you give an example?

Not PP, but my socially immature child at 5 had difficulty regulating his emotions and still threw tantrums. (Sometimes daily) He never hit, but the fits were epic. He had difficulty following directions. He had difficulty sharing and engaging in group play. He had difficulty sitting in a seat.

But, and I am truly not trying to be argumentative here, absent a diagnosis isnt lot of that just personality? In a class of three-year-olds, some will follow directions well and play well in groups. Some will not. Some kids are more emotional than others. A teacher is used to the spectrum of kids who are all the same age yet different personalities.

Schools have a system for dealing with those kids. They set them up with IEPs and recommend medications so that they can sit still and control their emotions better. If you don't want your kid medicated, waiting a year to start school can help.

[Anonymous]

My son has 2 red-shirted kids in a class of 28. My daughter has no red-shirted kids in a class of 26. This is in FCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It actually is very tough. Our kid was socially immature with an August bday so we held him back. but yeah, kindergarten is not very academically challenging for him. I wouldn't complain about it to other parents though.

He will now forever be socially immature by at least a year and bored in school. Bravo!

[Anonymous]

Okay, so why don't we all start kindergarten at 7 to prevent ADHD. Wait, people would start at 8 then. It amazes me how we all started K as 4yr olds and even survived. Whew!

All those stupid studies show is that ADHD is prematurely and completely over diagnosed. Kids even 12 months apart at age 5 have enormous different maturity and social skills. That is completely normal. But it is the PARENTS that can not deal if Larla is a little fidgety than others. Let's medicate her or hold her back. THAT is the plan? You can't even properly diagnose ADHD until age 8 or higher.

Kids in a non-poverty family involved household all tend to even out by 3rd grade. Socially and academically. Stunted your kids a full year for the rest of their lives does nothing for them except that everyone knows you are the red-shirted kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP again- Red shirting spring birthdays in our area is becoming increasingly common- or at least it seems to me.
The mom that caused me to write the OP is "looking" now at gifted programs for her son because our school isn't challenging him. She's very quick to point out that her son has a genius IQ.

I would point blank ask if his IQ is so high, why did he repeat a grade? (Pre-k)

Honestly, I would.

[Anonymous]

Or simply ask why she doesn't look into his advancing a grade so that he can be with his actual peers and be more stimulated?