Do you think the Pimmit Hills area will eventually become upscale?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PH is so controversial. I want to love it because it's close to WFC metro but I'm hesitating buying there. My spouse is opposed to PH due to what he associates it with when he was growing up in the late 80s early 90s nearby in a more affluent area. In his mind PH=My name is Earl residents (to exaggerate a tad). I'm the one trying to sell PH for its location and value, but no use. So you'll get people like me, then others still set in their old views. If there are enough people like my spouse, PH will need another 20- 30 years for some perceptions to change.

If you look at the other side of the neighborhood the silver line stop is within walking distance is set to have some redevelopment which will produce more walkable amenities.

Per Google Maps, it's over a mile and 30 minutes or more to walk to the nearest Silver Line station from the western part of Pimmit Hills. If you want a 15-minute walk that's less than a mile, look at the Hunting Ridge development in McLean, on the other side of Magarity Road from Pimmit Hills and also close to the Commons development that eventually may be redeveloped.

That's an overstatement. I live a block away from Magarity and it takes me 20 minutes of casual walking.

But it must be said that no residential development is really in a CLOSE walking distance to McLean station. The Gates of McLean is about the only community I can think of. Everything else is a hike. I mean, it's walkable but it's not a short walk.

The Pimmit Hills and Hunting Ridge estimates were taken from Google Maps, including the 30-minute estimate for a property in PH near Magarity. The 15-minute estimate for Hunting Ridge, which is off Chain Bridge Road before it hits Anderson, seems about right.

[Anonymous]

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It seemed like a fair inference, since you were praising the diversity of Pimmit Hills, while claiming in the same post that Marshall is "better" than Falls Church, a more diverse school.

??? That's so tenuous I don't even know what to say. Let's break what I said down:

PH is a diverse neighborhood with a good school. That's a fact.

Marshall is a better school than FCHS. That's also a fact.

That is all.

Whatever else you inferred is on you.

I "inferred," as you "implied." So there's a free lesson to you in both logic and grammar.

Now THAT is all.

That wasn't really a lesson, you're just trying to weasel out of an illogical thing that you said.

Actually, I was trying to be polite, but to put a finer point on it you're trying to have it both ways. Diversity is great if it makes PH sound good, but you keep claiming that Marshall is a better school than FCHS. If you aren't preprared to admit that the reason you think it's better is because it has a wealthier, less diverse student population, you should just sign off now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PH is so controversial. I want to love it because it's close to WFC metro but I'm hesitating buying there. My spouse is opposed to PH due to what he associates it with when he was growing up in the late 80s early 90s nearby in a more affluent area. In his mind PH=My name is Earl residents (to exaggerate a tad). I'm the one trying to sell PH for its location and value, but no use. So you'll get people like me, then others still set in their old views. If there are enough people like my spouse, PH will need another 20- 30 years for some perceptions to change.

If you look at the other side of the neighborhood the silver line stop is within walking distance is set to have some redevelopment which will produce more walkable amenities.

Per Google Maps, it's over a mile and 30 minutes or more to walk to the nearest Silver Line station from the western part of Pimmit Hills. If you want a 15-minute walk that's less than a mile, look at the Hunting Ridge development in McLean, on the other side of Magarity Road from Pimmit Hills and also close to the Commons development that eventually may be redeveloped.

I think you need help using google maps here are the details of taking the middle and a few block into the neighborhood. (this isn't the closet on the farthest edge which results in less walking time). Also note that you could drive to the mclean parking lot in under 5-10 minutes or bike in about 10-15 minutes.

Walking via Colshire Dr 22 min
1.2 miles

Head northeast on Lisle Ave toward Peabody Dr
30 ft

Turn left onto Peabody Dr
0.2 mi

Turn right onto Magarity Rd
0.3 mi

Turn left onto Anderson Rd
338 ft

Turn left onto Dartford Dr
0.2 mi

Turn left onto Colshire Dr
223 ft

Slight left to stay on Colshire Dr
0.1 mi

At the traffic circle, continue straight to stay on Colshire Dr
0.2 mi

Turn left onto Dolley Madison Blvd
0.1 mi

Turn right onto Capital One Dr/Old Meadow Rd

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It seemed like a fair inference, since you were praising the diversity of Pimmit Hills, while claiming in the same post that Marshall is "better" than Falls Church, a more diverse school.

??? That's so tenuous I don't even know what to say. Let's break what I said down:

PH is a diverse neighborhood with a good school. That's a fact.

Marshall is a better school than FCHS. That's also a fact.

That is all.

Whatever else you inferred is on you.

I "inferred," as you "implied." So there's a free lesson to you in both logic and grammar.

Now THAT is all.

That wasn't really a lesson, you're just trying to weasel out of an illogical thing that you said.

Actually, I was trying to be polite, but to put a finer point on it you're trying to have it both ways. Diversity is great if it makes PH sound good, but you keep claiming that Marshall is a better school than FCHS. If you aren't preprared to admit that the reason you think it's better is because it has a wealthier, less diverse student population, you should just sign off now.

I don't agree with you. Diversity comes in many forms, it doesn't have to mean diversity of income, intellectual ability, or an oversize presence of a particular ethnicity. A classroom full of high-achieving kids from different ethnic origins is a diverse classroom. It doesn't NEED to have 40% of poor ESOL kids to be considered diverse. There are other ways of being diverse. You seem to be wedded to one particular version of diversity. That's also on you.

That Marshall is a better school than FCHS isn't a claim, it's a fact.

And I'll decide when to sign off, thanks.

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Or a more typical address in the western part of PH (the same address, by the way, would 42 minutes and 2.1 miles to the WFC Station):

Via Colshire Dr 28 min
1.4 miles

Head southwest on Leonard Rd toward Griffith Rd
187 ft

Turn right onto Griffith Rd
351 ft

Turn right onto Peabody Dr
0.3 mi

Turn right onto Magarity Rd
0.3 mi

Turn left onto Anderson Rd
338 ft

Turn left onto Dartford Dr
0.2 mi

Turn left onto Colshire Dr
223 ft

Slight left to stay on Colshire Dr
0.1 mi

At the traffic circle, continue straight to stay on Colshire Dr
0.2 mi

Turn left onto Dolley Madison Blvd
0.1 mi

Turn right onto Capital One Dr/Old Meadow Rd
75 ft

So, yes, it would be shorter to drive, bike or take a bus. Keep that in mind when considering whether to walk from PH to the Metro.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:PH is so controversial. I want to love it because it's close to WFC metro but I'm hesitating buying there. My spouse is opposed to PH due to what he associates it with when he was growing up in the late 80s early 90s nearby in a more affluent area. In his mind PH=My name is Earl residents (to exaggerate a tad). I'm the one trying to sell PH for its location and value, but no use. So you'll get people like me, then others still set in their old views. If there are enough people like my spouse, PH will need another 20- 30 years for some perceptions to change.

If you look at the other side of the neighborhood the silver line stop is within walking distance is set to have some redevelopment which will produce more walkable amenities.

Per Google Maps, it's over a mile and 30 minutes or more to walk to the nearest Silver Line station from the western part of Pimmit Hills. If you want a 15-minute walk that's less than a mile, look at the Hunting Ridge development in McLean, on the other side of Magarity Road from Pimmit Hills and also close to the Commons development that eventually may be redeveloped.

30 minutes? Is this you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It seemed like a fair inference, since you were praising the diversity of Pimmit Hills, while claiming in the same post that Marshall is "better" than Falls Church, a more diverse school.

??? That's so tenuous I don't even know what to say. Let's break what I said down:

PH is a diverse neighborhood with a good school. That's a fact.

Marshall is a better school than FCHS. That's also a fact.

That is all.

Whatever else you inferred is on you.

I "inferred," as you "implied." So there's a free lesson to you in both logic and grammar.

Now THAT is all.

That wasn't really a lesson, you're just trying to weasel out of an illogical thing that you said.

Actually, I was trying to be polite, but to put a finer point on it you're trying to have it both ways. Diversity is great if it makes PH sound good, but you keep claiming that Marshall is a better school than FCHS. If you aren't preprared to admit that the reason you think it's better is because it has a wealthier, less diverse student population, you should just sign off now.

I don't agree with you. Diversity comes in many forms, it doesn't have to mean diversity of income, intellectual ability, or an oversize presence of a particular ethnicity. A classroom full of high-achieving kids from different ethnic origins is a diverse classroom. It doesn't NEED to have 40% of poor ESOL kids to be considered diverse. There are other ways of being diverse. You seem to be wedded to one particular version of diversity. That's also on you.

That Marshall is a better school than FCHS isn't a claim, it's a fact.

And I'll decide when to sign off, thanks.

If there's any "oversize presence of a particular ethnicity" at either Marshall or Falls Church, it's the white population at Marshall, and you know it. Falls Church is a more diverse school than Marshall, period.

And you can keep repeating that it's a "fact" that "Marshall is a better school than FCHS" all you want, but Falls Church may be a better environment for some students than Marshall. And, even if it weren't, it wouldn't mean that FCHS deserves the type of insults that people trying to convince others that PH is a chill place keep doling out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It seemed like a fair inference, since you were praising the diversity of Pimmit Hills, while claiming in the same post that Marshall is "better" than Falls Church, a more diverse school.

??? That's so tenuous I don't even know what to say. Let's break what I said down:

PH is a diverse neighborhood with a good school. That's a fact.

Marshall is a better school than FCHS. That's also a fact.

That is all.

Whatever else you inferred is on you.

I "inferred," as you "implied." So there's a free lesson to you in both logic and grammar.

Now THAT is all.

That wasn't really a lesson, you're just trying to weasel out of an illogical thing that you said.

Actually, I was trying to be polite, but to put a finer point on it you're trying to have it both ways. Diversity is great if it makes PH sound good, but you keep claiming that Marshall is a better school than FCHS. If you aren't preprared to admit that the reason you think it's better is because it has a wealthier, less diverse student population, you should just sign off now.

I don't agree with you. Diversity comes in many forms, it doesn't have to mean diversity of income, intellectual ability, or an oversize presence of a particular ethnicity. A classroom full of high-achieving kids from different ethnic origins is a diverse classroom. It doesn't NEED to have 40% of poor ESOL kids to be considered diverse. There are other ways of being diverse. You seem to be wedded to one particular version of diversity. That's also on you.

That Marshall is a better school than FCHS isn't a claim, it's a fact.

And I'll decide when to sign off, thanks.

[Anonymous]

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30 minutes? Is this you?

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No, sorry, couldn't make it to the PH picnic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
30 minutes? Is this you?

No, sorry, couldn't make it to the PH picnic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
It seemed like a fair inference, since you were praising the diversity of Pimmit Hills, while claiming in the same post that Marshall is "better" than Falls Church, a more diverse school.

??? That's so tenuous I don't even know what to say. Let's break what I said down:

PH is a diverse neighborhood with a good school. That's a fact.

Marshall is a better school than FCHS. That's also a fact.

That is all.

Whatever else you inferred is on you.

I "inferred," as you "implied." So there's a free lesson to you in both logic and grammar.

Now THAT is all.

That wasn't really a lesson, you're just trying to weasel out of an illogical thing that you said.

Actually, I was trying to be polite, but to put a finer point on it you're trying to have it both ways. Diversity is great if it makes PH sound good, but you keep claiming that Marshall is a better school than FCHS. If you aren't preprared to admit that the reason you think it's better is because it has a wealthier, less diverse student population, you should just sign off now.

I don't agree with you. Diversity comes in many forms, it doesn't have to mean diversity of income, intellectual ability, or an oversize presence of a particular ethnicity. A classroom full of high-achieving kids from different ethnic origins is a diverse classroom. It doesn't NEED to have 40% of poor ESOL kids to be considered diverse. There are other ways of being diverse. You seem to be wedded to one particular version of diversity. That's also on you.

That Marshall is a better school than FCHS isn't a claim, it's a fact.

And I'll decide when to sign off, thanks.

If there's any "oversize presence of a particular ethnicity" at either Marshall or Falls Church, it's the white population at Marshall, and you know it. Falls Church is a more diverse school than Marshall, period.

And you can keep repeating that it's a "fact" that "Marshall is a better school than FCHS" all you want, but Falls Church may be a better environment for some students than Marshall. And, even if it weren't, it wouldn't mean that FCHS deserves the type of insults that people trying to convince others that PH is a chill place keep doling out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PH is so controversial. I want to love it because it's close to WFC metro but I'm hesitating buying there. My spouse is opposed to PH due to what he associates it with when he was growing up in the late 80s early 90s nearby in a more affluent area. In his mind PH=My name is Earl residents (to exaggerate a tad). I'm the one trying to sell PH for its location and value, but no use. So you'll get people like me, then others still set in their old views. If there are enough people like my spouse, PH will need another 20- 30 years for some perceptions to change.

If you look at the other side of the neighborhood the silver line stop is within walking distance is set to have some redevelopment which will produce more walkable amenities.

Per Google Maps, it's over a mile and 30 minutes or more to walk to the nearest Silver Line station from the western part of Pimmit Hills. If you want a 15-minute walk that's less than a mile, look at the Hunting Ridge development in McLean, on the other side of Magarity Road from Pimmit Hills and also close to the Commons development that eventually may be redeveloped.

I think you need help using google maps here are the details of taking the middle and a few block into the neighborhood. (this isn't the closet on the farthest edge which results in less walking time). Also note that you could drive to the mclean parking lot in under 5-10 minutes or bike in about 10-15 minutes.

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PP was partially right though, from Magarity closest to 7, the station is about a mile and a half away, but the 3T bus gets you there in 10 minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PH is so controversial. I want to love it because it's close to WFC metro but I'm hesitating buying there. My spouse is opposed to PH due to what he associates it with when he was growing up in the late 80s early 90s nearby in a more affluent area. In his mind PH=My name is Earl residents (to exaggerate a tad). I'm the one trying to sell PH for its location and value, but no use. So you'll get people like me, then others still set in their old views. If there are enough people like my spouse, PH will need another 20- 30 years for some perceptions to change.

If you look at the other side of the neighborhood the silver line stop is within walking distance is set to have some redevelopment which will produce more walkable amenities.

Per Google Maps, it's over a mile and 30 minutes or more to walk to the nearest Silver Line station from the western part of Pimmit Hills. If you want a 15-minute walk that's less than a mile, look at the Hunting Ridge development in McLean, on the other side of Magarity Road from Pimmit Hills and also close to the Commons development that eventually may be redeveloped.

The side near McLean metro is less than a mile and unless you are extremely out of shape it should take 15-20 minutes to walk it. New development for the silver will occur starting in the mclean commons which is a stones throw from PH.

I've walked to the silver line metro from a house a block from Margharity. It takes almost 30 min. Similarly, my friend who bought in PH off Margharity 1.3 miles away first dreamed of walking to metro but he ended up driving to the silver line because the 1.3 miles took 27 minutes to walk. Go figure. I think only a half mile is walkable. Who wants to add 40-50 min of RT commute time just to be able to hypothetically walk to Mclean metro or any metro? Plus the parking lot there is temporary. I don't get why the new stations didn't get parking (except Reston and way west).

[Anonymous]

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Best to leave the kids out of it, OK.

Falls Church:



Marshall:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PH is so controversial. I want to love it because it's close to WFC metro but I'm hesitating buying there. My spouse is opposed to PH due to what he associates it with when he was growing up in the late 80s early 90s nearby in a more affluent area. In his mind PH=My name is Earl residents (to exaggerate a tad). I'm the one trying to sell PH for its location and value, but no use. So you'll get people like me, then others still set in their old views. If there are enough people like my spouse, PH will need another 20- 30 years for some perceptions to change.

If you look at the other side of the neighborhood the silver line stop is within walking distance is set to have some redevelopment which will produce more walkable amenities.

Per Google Maps, it's over a mile and 30 minutes or more to walk to the nearest Silver Line station from the western part of Pimmit Hills. If you want a 15-minute walk that's less than a mile, look at the Hunting Ridge development in McLean, on the other side of Magarity Road from Pimmit Hills and also close to the Commons development that eventually may be redeveloped.

The side near McLean metro is less than a mile and unless you are extremely out of shape it should take 15-20 minutes to walk it. New development for the silver will occur starting in the mclean commons which is a stones throw from PH.

I've walked to the silver line metro from a house a block from Margharity. It takes almost 30 min. Similarly, my friend who bought in PH off Margharity 1.3 miles away first dreamed of walking to metro but he ended up driving to the silver line because the 1.3 miles took 27 minutes to walk. Go figure. I think only a half mile is walkable. Who wants to add 40-50 min of RT commute time just to be able to hypothetically walk to Mclean metro or any metro? Plus the parking lot there is temporary. I don't get why the new stations didn't get parking (except Reston and way west).

As I said, I don't think it's an easy or short walk anywhere from PH, but 30 minutes is an overkill.