It's hardly impossible to believe. You are disturbed that something like this could happen so you are scrambling for an explanation, but it is perfectly believable that people would not know this guy would go to this extreme. |
The laws need to change, and you're incredibly naive or just determined to prove a point to suggest that his family members couldn't imagine him committing murders. Mentally ill individuals most certainly can commit heinous crimes, and he did have a troubling history since childhood. If his family were in denial, then his psychiatrist should have stepped forward. |
No one has given any good evidence that the family members had any inkling he would commit such a heinous crime. It boggles your mind that someone could do this seemingly out of nowhere and with no obvious motive whatsoever; it boggles mine, too. But that doesn't mean there is a neat explanation to make us feel better. It doesn't mean you and others get to crucify his family. How do you balance your desire for some control here with the rights of people who have committed no crime? What is this magical law you want to enact? They used to force treatments on people and they don't anymore, because many innocent people can get hurt. That kind of system can be abused in really horrible ways. It is a really, really difficult balancing act to say you are going to force treatment on the "bad guys" but somehow not infringe on the rights of others with mental illness who have never and will never hurt someone else. Are you a mind reader? Is there any evidence this guy actually told anyone or left any trail of what he was going to do? |
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Any way it went down is super disturbing:
Possibility 1: he called his parents right after and was freaked out and told them, and they helped him cover it up. Possibility 2: be called them afterward, was freaking out and they didn’t know why. Then they learn of the murders, the car, the timing (murders at 4 am, he’s calling them at 6 am), the fact that it was pretty girls and this guy’s never had a gf, etc. They suspect him but put blinders on. Possibility 3: his phone call to them was perfectly normal (for him), he goes home and acts perfectly normal (for him) after murdering four people in cold blood. He’s over here listening to Christmas music and playing Monopoly with his family with zero remorse, regret or guilt. Any of these are bad. |
Please. Seems like everyone who encountered this guy saw issues. But not the family. They are in deep denial ir liars or both. |
He talked to his mom for 3 hours on the phone the say after the murders. What did they talk about? |
His sister is more than dishonest. It is quite obvious she also suffers from severe mental illness . |
Exactly. The lesson here isn't "Welp! What can we do! Nobody could have seen this coming!" But it's to make sure kids get the support and diagnoses they need from a very young age. Clearly Bryan didn't. His parents and family failed him. |
This guy brutally murdered four people. And your take away is that it was his family's fault? I have crappy parents. They had kids young, were immature people, were abusive and neglectful. I have never and will never murder anyone. This crime is the fault of one person. |
Does your profile look like his? Nobody, but his sister, has come to bat for this guy. Nobody was like "he was so sweet! I can't imagine!" He was a social pariah. But for his sister to come out and talk about the heart she made for him and the candles she'll blow out for him seems totally disconnected from reality. |
+1 |
| Again what exactly were his parents supposed to do BEFORE the fact?! You can’t jail people for being weird or thinking they MIGHT one day kill someone. He did not use guns (eg Adam Lanza), he lived across the country and he was an ADULT. This is insanity to think that every tragedy like this can be prevented with the laws currently in place. |
A little introspection might have gone a long way. But it looks like his family has a history of putting their heads in the sand. He only recently got his ASD diagnosis, in an attempt to avoid the death penalty. Why was he never diagnosed as a child? He was clearly troubled why did they never get him the help he needed? You can't say nothing would have stopped this when it looks like his parents did very little all his life. |
ACtually, if I had a son or daughter with this history of issues and significant ASD behaviors, he/she wouldn't be attending school that far away with no supports in place. Either his parents were extremely naive, in denial, resistant to supports, or he had misguided therapists. |
ADULT? was he paying for his education, car, and living expenses? |