Did I miss the thread on the current revolution going on to free Iran?

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Where are the protests in the West this time?

“As the people of Iran brave another intensifying crackdown by their rulers after another effort to reclaim their basic rights from one of the world’s most repressive regimes, my question is: Where are the protests in the West? Specifically, where are all those defenders of persecuted Muslims who have been so active on the streets of New York, London, Sydney, Rome and elsewhere the past two years? Where are the demands for justice and freedom for the downtrodden victims of a brutally repressive state?

What is so different about the cause they have been espousing in their demonstrations over Gaza and the cause of the millions of innocent coreligionists 1,000 miles to their east? Those kaffiyeh-wearing, banner-waving, slogan-chanting activists say they were moved to protest, sometimes violently and unlawfully, by the plight of Muslims dispossessed of their lands and livelihoods, immiserated, starved, beaten and murdered by a savage regime.

Over the past two weeks, the clash between good and evil has seemed to be approaching a climax, and the brutality has escalated. Where are the student radicals disrupting classes? We all marveled at Queers for Palestine. Why don’t we have Queers for Iran, a country whose official attitude toward homosexuality is similar to Hamas’s? Where are the movie stars and pop icons with their beautifully produced plangent video pleas for justice? Why haven’t we heard condemnations from Zohran Mamdani, the mayor of New York, or Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, pledging solidarity with the Iranians and demanding the end of the theocratic occupation? Why hasn’t dear little Greta Thunberg gotten herself arrested for passionately supporting the Iranian people against their overlords? Where is the International Criminal Court’s crack team of lawyers to investigate crimes against humanity and issue indictments against Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, and Masoud Pezeshkian, the country’s president, as they did for Benjamin Netanyahu?”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/iran-cracks-down-where-are-the-western-protests-791828d3?st=emDVpS

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Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?

There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.

The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.

So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.

No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.

I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?

That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.

Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.

So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?

If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.

Please clarify.

Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.

Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.

Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.

The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler

Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.

You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.

Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran

You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.

Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?

Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.

I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.

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Or homosexuals.

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Anonymous wrote:The idea that Israel is humanitarian and cares about women and children that aren’t their own is comical. Israel is looking for problems and creating another Iraq war for the us

Just like those peace loving Palestinians murdered, raped 1200 Israelis and kidnapped another 251 on Oct 7, including of course women and children. Pot, meet kettle.

This is why I do not believe the reports coming out of Iran. It’s the same people who said all of the above which turned out to be lies.

Wow, the Iranian propagandist has reached the point where she is claiming 10/7 didn’t happen.

It is so sad to see how morally bankrupt the progressive left in this country has become. I’m embarrassed I ever called myself a progressive.

Nothing to be embarrassed about. Progressive Israeli is the aame as an American racial supremacist.

I’m not Israeli or Jewish. In fact I used to join protests against Israeli occupation, during my days as a standard American progressive leftist. I’m still opposed to Israeli occupation but have fled the American progressive left because it has become a twisted and amoral political ideology.

You see that deep moral corruption of the progressive left in this very thread. Progressives are siding with the brutal Iranian regime, a regime that has been widely condemned for its widespread human rights abuses. They want to prop up a government that executes young women who dared to remove their hijabs, and young men who dared to defend those women. That’s what the progressive left in the US has become: hollow, morally empty, siding with brutal dictatorships.

When you are on the side of Candace Owens, you have lost all sense of morality and justice. Candace Owens is shilling for the Iranian government now, and apparently progressives are too. It is sickening to see.

+1. Amen.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't find it a little weird that the son of the former Shah rears his head as the head of some overseas overthrow Iran movement. Someone who previously anointed himself as the Shah of Iran in 1980? And that Israel was found to be involved in propping him up as a future leader of a post-Islamic Republic leader?

Try harder Israeli bots.

The former Shah will make a great leader of Iran once there is regime change - just like how Mosaddegh was overthrown so the West could get their fair share of the country's oil.

Reza has the highest recommendation from Benjamin Netanyahu and has even traveled to Israel to learn and get wisdom from him (see reference below). I cannot think of a better candidate that is more qualified to bring freedom to the Iranian people.

I guess we like kings again? Where my No Kings homies at?

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the protests in the West this time?

“As the people of Iran brave another intensifying crackdown by their rulers after another effort to reclaim their basic rights from one of the world’s most repressive regimes, my question is: Where are the protests in the West? Specifically, where are all those defenders of persecuted Muslims who have been so active on the streets of New York, London, Sydney, Rome and elsewhere the past two years? Where are the demands for justice and freedom for the downtrodden victims of a brutally repressive state?

What is so different about the cause they have been espousing in their demonstrations over Gaza and the cause of the millions of innocent coreligionists 1,000 miles to their east? Those kaffiyeh-wearing, banner-waving, slogan-chanting activists say they were moved to protest, sometimes violently and unlawfully, by the plight of Muslims dispossessed of their lands and livelihoods, immiserated, starved, beaten and murdered by a savage regime.

Over the past two weeks, the clash between good and evil has seemed to be approaching a climax, and the brutality has escalated. Where are the student radicals disrupting classes? We all marveled at Queers for Palestine. Why don’t we have Queers for Iran, a country whose official attitude toward homosexuality is similar to Hamas’s? Where are the movie stars and pop icons with their beautifully produced plangent video pleas for justice? Why haven’t we heard condemnations from Zohran Mamdani, the mayor of New York, or Sadiq Khan, the mayor of London, pledging solidarity with the Iranians and demanding the end of the theocratic occupation? Why hasn’t dear little Greta Thunberg gotten herself arrested for passionately supporting the Iranian people against their overlords? Where is the International Criminal Court’s crack team of lawyers to investigate crimes against humanity and issue indictments against Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, and Masoud Pezeshkian, the country’s president, as they did for Benjamin Netanyahu?”

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/iran-cracks-down-where-are-the-western-protests-791828d3?st=emDVpS

When will people stop believing that the political left in the US has any morals remaining at all?

When your political ideology demands you support a brutal theocracy over the people oppressed by that theocracy, you’ve exposed the utter rot at the center of your belief system. And yes, that phrase applies to people who support Israel — but it also equally applies to the people who loudly supported the Palestinians but are now silent in the face of a government that executes women who dared to remove their hijabs. If you protested against Israeli occupation of Gaza but are silent now, you’ve exposed yourself as an amoral, sick fraud.

[Anonymous]

The ones supporting regime change should be first to sign up for the war

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Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?

There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.

The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.

So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.

No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.

I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?

That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.

Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.

So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?

If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.

Please clarify.

Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.

Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.

Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.

The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler

Are you suggesting that of the 12,000-20,000 Iranian protestors who have been slaughtered by the regime’s forces in the crackdown of the last few days, none were women or children???

DP. I question the sources for these figures. It the same people and “news” organization who “reported” the rape stories, cutting babies out, etc to justify Israel’s genocide. Those all turned out ti be false. How can anyone believe the NYTimes?

So what number of Iranians slaughtered by their government is acceptable to you?

Renee Good was apparently protesting when she was killed by our own federal government (ice). Glass houses..

We have our own problems to tend to

Please answer the question. What number of Iranians slaughtered by their government is acceptable to you?

So the answer is for our government to slaughter them with air strikes instead?

[Anonymous]

Ayatollah Khomeini will accept asylum that was offered in Minnesota and is planning on opening a child daycare center.

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Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?

There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.

The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.

So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.

No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.

I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?

That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.

Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.

So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?

If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.

Please clarify.

Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.

Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.

Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.

The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler

Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.

You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.

Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran

You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.

Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?

Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.

I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.

+1
Or homosexuals.

Just like in Israel.

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Anonymous wrote:The idea that Israel is humanitarian and cares about women and children that aren’t their own is comical. Israel is looking for problems and creating another Iraq war for the us

Just like those peace loving Palestinians murdered, raped 1200 Israelis and kidnapped another 251 on Oct 7, including of course women and children. Pot, meet kettle.

This is why I do not believe the reports coming out of Iran. It’s the same people who said all of the above which turned out to be lies.

Wow, the Iranian propagandist has reached the point where she is claiming 10/7 didn’t happen.

It is so sad to see how morally bankrupt the progressive left in this country has become. I’m embarrassed I ever called myself a progressive.

It could also be foreign trolls who are paid to post this stuff.

But the Progressive Left is still not blameless. They are complicit. We all know if this was any other topic (let's say trans) and the trolls were incessantly posting negative stuff about trans, the thread would be shut down just like that.

[Anonymous]

Revolution is brewing in Iran. But state officials there are saying it’s not as organic as it seems. They’re accusing the United States and its regional ally, Israel, of not only rooting for the Iranian “rebels,” but fomenting trouble on the ground. A social media post from a former CIA director appears to suggest Mossad agents are indeed in the thick of things there.

Interestingly, the current Islamic government is in power because, in 1979, America’s foreign policy establishment pulled off the last regime-change operation.

If only Iran had a pro-Western regime, everything would be fine. That’s the idea, anyway. Except that it did — “until it was toppled with the help of the same U.S. foreign policy establishment recently beating war drums,” as author and researcher James Perloff pointed out in an older TNA article.

From 1941 until 1979, Iran was ruled by a constitutional monarchy under Mohammad Reza Pahlavi, Iran’s Shah. The Shah used Iran’s oil wealth to rebuild the once-great Persian nation. “Long regarded as a U.S. ally, the Shah was pro-Western and anti-communist, and he was aware that he posed the main barrier to Soviet ambitions in the Middle East,” Perloff noted. At home, the Shah allowed non-Muslims to practice their faith and granted rights to women.

But then, “the Shah suddenly became the target of an ignoble campaign led by U.S. and British foreign policy makers.

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Anonymous wrote:What will Israel do? Here is an interesting thought, this revolution is interesting in that it is an internal uprising with limited outside agitators (unlike Syria that started domestically and was usurped by ISIS causing the domestic revolt to quickly die) because of this, no foreign powers have the ability to influence who will take the reigns if the current regime is toppled. Will Israel act to quash the revolution? If so what does that mean to supporters of Israel?

There's zero reason to think Israel would take action against internal Iranian dissent against the Iranian regime. The proposition is simply without any rational basis. The collapse of the Iranian regime can only be good news for the entire region, including Israel, as it is unlikely to be replaced with anything worse, and will more probably be replaced by a government less interested in supporting Palestinian terror and in exporting Islamist revolution.

The fall of the current Iranian government will be welcomed by everyone except the Palestinians, who are and have been dependent upon it to fund and support their terror activities. Without terror planning, preparation, and execution to occupy them, the Palestinians will then have the opportunity to become accustomed to life in their new 50% smaller Gaza they bought for themselves in return for Oct. 7.

So basically you're saying once Iran is overthrown then Israel can continue to commit genocide without any pushback.

No wonder Israeli supporters are so desperately seeking regime so they can finally eliminate Gazans once and for all.

I’m not PP nor a supporter of Israel but you do realize that you just admitted you want the Iranian people to continue to suffer under the absolute brutality of the regime so that the regime can continue to fund Gaza?

That’s a morally wrong take. You are wholly on the wrong side of both history and ethics.

Being on the side of killers of women and children has never been the right position in history. Sorry.

So then you support the destruction of the Iranian regime? Yes or no?

If you don’t support the killing of women and children, you cannot support the Ayatollah. However, it sounds like you want the regime to stay in power.

Please clarify.

Which women and children has the Ayatollah killed? That man isn’t even the president of Iran. The actual president of Iran Massoud Pezekhian is a heart surgeon who wants peace and a relationship with the US and with Israel. Are we forgetting that? Zeroing in on some firebrand religious cleric like the ayatollah who is 86 with one foot already in the grave is bizarre. Also, one of the ayatollah’s granddaughters weddings went viral because she was certainly not in a hijab or cloak but a western style cleavage cut dress.

Iran is the same country that does free gender reassignment surgery for trans. They have IVF and abortion. This idea that it’s some ultra conservative Islamic society isn’t true at all.

Islam like Judaism has hundreds and hundreds of rules and varying interpretations by men (some extreme, some moderate, some liberal) but people do what they want at the end of the day.

The idea that we should invade Iran and kill a population of 90 million, bankrupt global oil economies, and lose strategic ports because of Khomenei screaming death to America and Israel is insane. One firebrand isn’t worth world war 3 . Ayatollah isn’t Hitler

Man, the Iranian propagandists are out in force.

You cannot be serious in asking us to believe the government of Iran is not executing women and children, not after what we’ve seen them do to women and girls that dared not wear a hijab. Be for real, propagandist.

Israel projects what they do on to others. The ones killing women and children aren’t Iran

You are a shockingly bad propagandist. Try to gain some skills, please. This is not actually a debated fact, so you just look like an ignorant fool propping up a vicious government.

Why don't Israelis ever post any cites or sites?

Because they’ve been able to just make things up for decades, and anyone questioning their ridiculous claims gets thrown in jail.

I’m just here to watch the Iranian propagandists say with a straight face that the Iranian government doesn’t execute women. The audacity is notable.

+1
Or homosexuals.

Just like in Israel.

The PPP is right. You are a sick propagandist who seems to have zero grasp on reality.