Option H is permanent and the old Wootton HS campus will be closed for good?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the 20878 area and the amount of people posting on nextdoor about save Wootton, you would think the sky is falling.

The Moderately Moco guy is also there trying to push out option H. I guess he lives in that area.

No one gives a damn about Dufief.

And today's post showed a picture with a room full of Asians and whites at Wootton's townhall. You know who is against option H.

One woman said it right - to quote her: "We know what this is truly about. If you do not want your kids to mingle with the "lower class" residents of upper Montgomery County just say so. If it is that bad. There are many private schools in your area or even better homeschooling. Just saying.."

What a bunch of noisemakers - first they want a new building and sign a petition and then when MCPS addresses it they start another petition.

I was there in person and didn’t hear any racist comment like this. The discussion was focused on Wootton renovation. It’s far too easy for someone with a conflict of interest or a personal grudge to fabricate a racist remark and make Wootton look bad.”

What lower class upper Mo Co residents? the ones that bought $1 million houses in Criwn? There wre no comments like that, that person was lying. Also how’s Crown upper MoCo?

There are a lot of Asian haters

True, but I'm an Asian parent in another cluster, and IMO, Wootton at Crown makes perfect sense given the financial constraints and declining enrollment.

You think it makes perfect sense because you aren’t being harmed by it. You said yourself that you are in a different cluster.

I stated I was Asian because dcum likes to dump on Asians, and not all Asians are created equal.

Yes, it's easier to accept when you're not "harmed" by it, and it's harder to accept when you are emotional about it.

Logically, Wootton at Crown makes the most sense.

If you don’t live in Wootton district and don’t understand how Wootton community feels, then it doesn’t matter what makes sense to you.

I don't need to live in the Wootton cluster to know what makes logical sense.

Declining enrollment, huge budget shortfall, brand new HS, and you think it makes logical financial sense to fix up Wootton? That's an emotional decision, not a logical one.

That’s because you’re viewing this through a narrow lens, missing the real challenges of losing a community center to the local residents. It’s not just about MCPS as relocating or closing Wootton would cause major economic disruption for Rockville city too. It’s not that simple.

What? Please enlighten us about this major economic disruption...

I'm wondering too.

Lol. The extent that Wootton parents can go to.

If there is an economic disruption in Rockville, then there will be an economic boom in Gaithersburg.

Hard to say as many will rather move to Churchill instead. So shifting economical center from Rockville to Gaithersburg is not a big decision to make?

Please explain how anything being discussed here shifts and "economic center"? Honestly, I don't get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in the 20878 area and the amount of people posting on nextdoor about save Wootton, you would think the sky is falling.

The Moderately Moco guy is also there trying to push out option H. I guess he lives in that area.

No one gives a damn about Dufief.

And today's post showed a picture with a room full of Asians and whites at Wootton's townhall. You know who is against option H.

One woman said it right - to quote her: "We know what this is truly about. If you do not want your kids to mingle with the "lower class" residents of upper Montgomery County just say so. If it is that bad. There are many private schools in your area or even better homeschooling. Just saying.."

What a bunch of noisemakers - first they want a new building and sign a petition and then when MCPS addresses it they start another petition.

I was there in person and didn’t hear any racist comment like this. The discussion was focused on Wootton renovation. It’s far too easy for someone with a conflict of interest or a personal grudge to fabricate a racist remark and make Wootton look bad.”

What lower class upper Mo Co residents? the ones that bought $1 million houses in Criwn? There wre no comments like that, that person was lying. Also how’s Crown upper MoCo?

There are a lot of Asian haters

True, but I'm an Asian parent in another cluster, and IMO, Wootton at Crown makes perfect sense given the financial constraints and declining enrollment.

You think it makes perfect sense because you aren’t being harmed by it. You said yourself that you are in a different cluster.

I stated I was Asian because dcum likes to dump on Asians, and not all Asians are created equal.

Yes, it's easier to accept when you're not "harmed" by it, and it's harder to accept when you are emotional about it.

Logically, Wootton at Crown makes the most sense.

If you don’t live in Wootton district and don’t understand how Wootton community feels, then it doesn’t matter what makes sense to you.

I don't need to live in the Wootton cluster to know what makes logical sense.

Declining enrollment, huge budget shortfall, brand new HS, and you think it makes logical financial sense to fix up Wootton? That's an emotional decision, not a logical one.

That’s because you’re viewing this through a narrow lens, missing the real challenges of losing a community center to the local residents. It’s not just about MCPS as relocating or closing Wootton would cause major economic disruption for Rockville city too. It’s not that simple.

What? Please enlighten us about this major economic disruption...

I'm wondering too.

Lol. The extent that Wootton parents can go to.

If there is an economic disruption in Rockville, then there will be an economic boom in Gaithersburg.

Hard to say as many will rather move to Churchill instead. So shifting economical center from Rockville to Gaithersburg is not a big decision to make?

Please explain how anything being discussed here shifts and "economic center"? Honestly, I don't get it.

High school kids buy pizza and soda and thereby boost the economy? 😆

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

I would bet many Magruder or Damascus families would be gladly take the new crown HS building if new Crown HS building is offered and also located a lot closer to them.

Then offer to Magruder and merge them with some Gaithersburg students and also split some to Gaithersburg high school. It’s not unlikely as the distance isn’t that far from Magruder and crown. It’s totally doable.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

I would bet many Magruder or Damascus families would be gladly take the new crown HS building if new Crown HS building is offered and also located a lot closer to them.

Then offer to Magruder and merge them with some Gaithersburg students and also split some to Gaithersburg high school. It’s not unlikely as the distance isn’t that far from Magruder and crown. It’s totally doable.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

It just seems like a manufactured crisis.

? you doubt we have declining enrollment and budget shortfalls?

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These complaints about moving Wootton to Crown are insane as someone who's not in either cluster, I'm just dumbfounded that with the school being in such a poor condition, as demonstrated by lots of testimony over the past 3-4 months, getting such a new school isn't acceptable?

Look I get it, change sucks and can be hard. Not having the same physical school location is a change. But trying to resist option H so you can hopefully get a renovation in 10-12 years is foolish to me. There is ZERO chance Wootton is renovated in the next 5-6 years. This is from a fiscal standpoint (the county is broke and it's only going to get worse) and from a logistical standpoint (if not going with Crown as a holding school, it delays the timing, increases costs and from my understanding makes doing an onsite renovation incredibly difficult if not impossible).

So these families mean to say "no we don't want a brand new school that's located relatively close to us we'd rather suck it up at this shitty/unsafe school so much that most kids in MCPS today will NOT get a new Wootton high school", because if so I just think that's ridiculous.

If their thoughts are we can complain to get a holding school option, well you're basically saying anyone enrolled in MCPS today will never get a new Wootton while they are at MCPS...maybe if lucky current 2nd graders get to have a year. If not pushing for that then you're supporting breaking up Wootton to fill Crown.

My biggest frustration with this take and it's not just Wootton families, but so many others, the mentality is "I don't care if it costs XYZ, I'm just paying for a sliver of the cost so I want it." Then politicians cave and this is how our country has a massive spending problem both at the Federal, state and local levels. There comes a time where a choice must be made on how to allocate a finite amount of money, spending money on Crown was clearly a mistake given where enrollment is today, but doubling down on that and throwing more money at another high school when it's looking like for potentially a long time we have no need for the seats is foolish and a waste of money when so many other schools have dire needs.

For that matter, I think the idea of replacing so many elementary schools right now seems foolish until an ES boundary study is done. There are so many underutilized elementary schools in the county and they border overutilized schools. There can easily be consolidation before money is spent on rebuilding a school.

And for the record I'm moderate left leaning politically, having voted for Democrats across the board since I became eligible to vote 25 years ago. I also work in an industry where I have first hand experience with the ramifications of making poor financial decisions, both from an individual/family perspective to the impact poor financial decisions can have on a state/county. Our state unfortunately is far less competitive than our neighboring states, add on recent tax hikes and potential for more to fund all of this, and you run the risk of causing a mass exodus which just further accelerates the financial pain. So we need to be smart about our resources and right now rebuilding Wootton does not make sense as sad as it may be.

Having said that, I'd have to imagine that the current Wootton location would remain a high school location for many years to come just like Woodward and eventually could resume being a high school.

My two cents

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Anonymous wrote:These complaints about moving Wootton to Crown are insane as someone who's not in either cluster, I'm just dumbfounded that with the school being in such a poor condition, as demonstrated by lots of testimony over the past 3-4 months, getting such a new school isn't acceptable?

Look I get it, change sucks and can be hard. Not having the same physical school location is a change. But trying to resist option H so you can hopefully get a renovation in 10-12 years is foolish to me. There is ZERO chance Wootton is renovated in the next 5-6 years. This is from a fiscal standpoint (the county is broke and it's only going to get worse) and from a logistical standpoint (if not going with Crown as a holding school, it delays the timing, increases costs and from my understanding makes doing an onsite renovation incredibly difficult if not impossible).

So these families mean to say "no we don't want a brand new school that's located relatively close to us we'd rather suck it up at this shitty/unsafe school so much that most kids in MCPS today will NOT get a new Wootton high school", because if so I just think that's ridiculous.

If their thoughts are we can complain to get a holding school option, well you're basically saying anyone enrolled in MCPS today will never get a new Wootton while they are at MCPS...maybe if lucky current 2nd graders get to have a year. If not pushing for that then you're supporting breaking up Wootton to fill Crown.

My biggest frustration with this take and it's not just Wootton families, but so many others, the mentality is "I don't care if it costs XYZ, I'm just paying for a sliver of the cost so I want it." Then politicians cave and this is how our country has a massive spending problem both at the Federal, state and local levels. There comes a time where a choice must be made on how to allocate a finite amount of money, spending money on Crown was clearly a mistake given where enrollment is today, but doubling down on that and throwing more money at another high school when it's looking like for potentially a long time we have no need for the seats is foolish and a waste of money when so many other schools have dire needs.

For that matter, I think the idea of replacing so many elementary schools right now seems foolish until an ES boundary study is done. There are so many underutilized elementary schools in the county and they border overutilized schools. There can easily be consolidation before money is spent on rebuilding a school.

And for the record I'm moderate left leaning politically, having voted for Democrats across the board since I became eligible to vote 25 years ago. I also work in an industry where I have first hand experience with the ramifications of making poor financial decisions, both from an individual/family perspective to the impact poor financial decisions can have on a state/county. Our state unfortunately is far less competitive than our neighboring states, add on recent tax hikes and potential for more to fund all of this, and you run the risk of causing a mass exodus which just further accelerates the financial pain. So we need to be smart about our resources and right now rebuilding Wootton does not make sense as sad as it may be.

Having said that, I'd have to imagine that the current Wootton location would remain a high school location for many years to come just like Woodward and eventually could resume being a high school.

My two cents

You know what's nuts? Manufacturing a crisis to railroad families into a school they don't want.

Let's see MCPS file for bankruptcy.

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What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

It just seems like a manufactured crisis.

? you doubt we have declining enrollment and budget shortfalls?

I also don't get this part. Declining enrollment and budget shortfalls are real problems to solve now.

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What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

It just seems like a manufactured crisis.

How is projected revenue being written down by 850 million over the next six years a manufactured crisis? Do you understand that many county residents lost their jobs this year? Home listings in MoCo have increased by 64% year over year. Contractors for USAID and NIH have closed their doors.

MCPS has underfunded the CIP for years and construction costs have almost doubled in the past 5 years, certainly in the last decade.

Is that all made up?

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

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Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

It just seems like a manufactured crisis.

How is projected revenue being written down by 850 million over the next six years a manufactured crisis? Do you understand that many county residents lost their jobs this year? Home listings in MoCo have increased by 64% year over year. Contractors for USAID and NIH have closed their doors.

MCPS has underfunded the CIP for years and construction costs have almost doubled in the past 5 years, certainly in the last decade.

Is that all made up?

Then they shouldn’t finish Crown and sell the land. problem solved.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

It just seems like a manufactured crisis.

How is projected revenue being written down by 850 million over the next six years a manufactured crisis? Do you understand that many county residents lost their jobs this year? Home listings in MoCo have increased by 64% year over year. Contractors for USAID and NIH have closed their doors.

MCPS has underfunded the CIP for years and construction costs have almost doubled in the past 5 years, certainly in the last decade.

Is that all made up?

Residents should not have to make up for their mismanagement. The county and MCPS need a complete overhaul and a line by line audit with severe cuts to anything not necessary to fund this. We don't need electric buses. We don't need to send HS students to MC. We don't need to have turf. They need to reduce anything not related to academics and put these things as a priority. Enough with taxing without any transparency or accountability.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

It just seems like a manufactured crisis.

How is projected revenue being written down by 850 million over the next six years a manufactured crisis? Do you understand that many county residents lost their jobs this year? Home listings in MoCo have increased by 64% year over year. Contractors for USAID and NIH have closed their doors.

MCPS has underfunded the CIP for years and construction costs have almost doubled in the past 5 years, certainly in the last decade.

Is that all made up?

Then they shouldn’t finish Crown and sell the land. problem solved.

They were given the land, and they simply cannot sell it.

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Agree wholeheartedly with every point made by 12:26 poster.

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So, MCPS is trying to spend money they don't have to build a school that people don't want.

Brilliant. They're already digging at the site.

"You have no options" they tell us.

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Anonymous wrote:Option H may work and could be a strong long-term solution, but it also comes with significant uncertainties. It risks leaving an empty building behind, as we have seen elsewhere, and it would remove a neighborhood high school from the heart of Rockville. Many families are also confused by the idea that funding exists to use Wootton as a holding school, yet not to fully modernize it. That said, Option H does have real advantages and should be considered carefully as part of an honest, transparent discussion. This discussion casts families as either “stealing” Crown or acting as though they are “too good” for Crown. BOTH characterizations are harmful and untrue. What needs to stop is the name-calling and the assumption of bad motives when parents are advocating for their children. Years of fiscal and planning decisions by MCPS and the Board of Education put us in this position. Parents are trying to navigate the consequences, not undermine solutions. Assumptions and name-calling don’t move us forward.

What people are irritated about is that Wooten is not unique in needing repairs or a new school. They are not the only school who has been on the CIP, removed and is still waiting. You’re being presented the chance to get a new building but complaining about where it is located. Read the room. Be adults. No one is getting everything they want. So either you want a new building or you don’t. And if you choose no, understand that no one wants to hear ya’ll complaining about how unsafe Wooten is.

+ 1 million

Either take Option H or just stop complaining. If MCPS abandons Option H, the rest of us do not want to hear you whine about how old and moldy your damn school is. Your kids will be in the moldy school because you chose not to let them mix with black and hispanic people, but instead of saying that you make it about distance and all that crap.

It doesn’t really matter whether you want to hear or not. They deserve safe learning environment and they can’t be treated differently than other schools. Don’t keep the narrative that the only way Wootton can have a safe learning enrichment is to give up on their school. This is not fair.

DP. Great. Now apply that same principle to each MCPS-served community. And make sure it covers academic opportunity and all the rest for any individual student, as well. Solve for y.

It's not that moving Wootton to a new facility and incorporating the nearby communities should be the only option. That option should be explored, adjusted and evaluated with the entirety of the system in mind, though, even as MCPS should be considering ways to ensure the overall plan for the more impacted individual neighborhoods/families result in broadly equitable provision of educational services.

They put out option H and Wootton communities have clearly rejected the option. So that’s it for exploration as it makes no sense to go against the whole community. Don’t threaten Wootton families that they’ll stuck old moldy building without renovation forever because they didn’t accept option H. This kind of bullying needs to stop.

It's not bullying it's a choice. Everyone has tradeoffs. MCPS isn't worried about your home values, all your perceived traditions, or whatever the heck else you want to bring into the equation. This is about managing resources as efficiently as possible, doing so as safely as possible given the resource constraints, and with those two creating the most ideal educational environment for all students. You can either get a new safe building a couple miles away and go forth with education or you can stay in your old building and go forth with education. If you choose to stay, don't expect others to have sympathy for your complaints about the building.

Many of you stand to gain substantially from Wootton moving to Crown, and you are deliberately coercing Wootton people into accepting a blatantly unfair deal.

Yes I think it’s a lot of people just licking their chops thinking about how much their property value is going to increase with this situation.

I'm in the RM cluster, so it won't impact my property value. But, Wootton at Crown makes a lot of financial sense.

How can something that came about because of bad planning make sense?

It makes sense because we have declining enrollment and a huge budget shortfall for the foreseeable future. No other HS that is falling a part has a brand new HS being built close by.

It just seems like a manufactured crisis.

How is projected revenue being written down by 850 million over the next six years a manufactured crisis? Do you understand that many county residents lost their jobs this year? Home listings in MoCo have increased by 64% year over year. Contractors for USAID and NIH have closed their doors.

MCPS has underfunded the CIP for years and construction costs have almost doubled in the past 5 years, certainly in the last decade.

Is that all made up?

Then they shouldn’t finish Crown and sell the land. problem solved.

That's ridiculous and shows how little you know about capital budgets and how things work. Also, have you driven past recently?