Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.

That's impossible because you are a US citizen. Those on green card, Visas, fake asylum claims and undocumented are always at risk for deportation in that order

Nothing is impossible, except, according to this administration, retrieving anyone wrongfully deported to an El Salvadoran prison.

yup

[Anonymous]

This is so horrific and people who are okay with it think it could never happen to them or someone they love (that's the only way to be okay with it) - but this is absolutely a test of America's tolerance for loss of due process, and when due process erodes, it erodes for everyone. It won't just be people with brown skin who you don't think should be here. But keep thinking this doesn't affect you. We FA ... we FO.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense

What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.

The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.

Do you think it is OK if governments arrest people and deport them without a hearing straight to a prison in a foreign country where the US has no jurisdiction? How is that OK?

Do you think it’s ok to sneak over the border? How is that ok?

No. I voted for Trump mostly on the border failures. But unlike some, I have the ability to judge policy independently. I don't blindly accept everything because Trump does it. Do you?

No, but I accept that this person put themselves in this situation by breaking the law in the first place. It’s like getting a DUI then complaining your insurance went up.

No, it’s not. Your insurance goes up if you’re convicted of DUI, not just if you’re accused of DUI and later found to not have been DUI.

What the administration doing is more like the cop pulled the wrong car over, decided the wrong driver was DUI and sentenced the wrong driver to jail without a hearing. The lack of a hearing is the issue, because the driver never got a chance to prove that the cop pulled them over in error. Continuing this example, the powers the be figure out that the driver was pulled over in error, wasn’t DUI, but doesn’t let the driver out of jail. This is more like what the Trump administration is doing.

Whether or not some of the people sent to El Salvador entered the US illegally is irrelevant because what the administration is doing can sweep up completely innocent people who didn’t enter the US illegally. I have no issue with deporting someone who entered the US illegally so long as there is a proper hearing to make sure they are not innocent.

Then you should have no issue with this case as HE admits he is here illegally. He is not innocent. Glad to see we agree.

You and the PP... maybe you are the same person. Why do you act like immigrating is a the most horrible act? You know that the US allows a lot of legal immigration, don't you? The reasons some get to authorization and others do not are varied and complex. Unless you are 100% Native American, it's likely that someone in your own family immigrated relatively recently. Can you remember the reasons why? Does it make them immoral, horrible people, incomprehensible, worthy of being sent to a concentration camp?

Sigh. I know you are just going to snap "it is a horrible act because it is illegal." If the US send illegal immigrants to CECOT for nothing other than their immigration status, then we are no better than the places that violate human rights with impunity. Is that want you want? Don't you believe in human rights? Don't you realize that the image of the US, and it's role in the world, will fall and that this will affect you in many ways??

In any case, a judge ruled that he could not be deported to El Salvador and he was . This is a MUCH worse mistake than anything the man has done so I strongly disagree that he is the only one at fault

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense

What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.

The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.

Do you think it is OK if governments arrest people and deport them without a hearing straight to a prison in a foreign country where the US has no jurisdiction? How is that OK?

Do you think it’s ok to sneak over the border? How is that ok?

No. I voted for Trump mostly on the border failures. But unlike some, I have the ability to judge policy independently. I don't blindly accept everything because Trump does it. Do you?

No, but I accept that this person put themselves in this situation by breaking the law in the first place. It’s like getting a DUI then complaining your insurance went up.

No, it’s not. Your insurance goes up if you’re convicted of DUI, not just if you’re accused of DUI and later found to not have been DUI.

What the administration doing is more like the cop pulled the wrong car over, decided the wrong driver was DUI and sentenced the wrong driver to jail without a hearing. The lack of a hearing is the issue, because the driver never got a chance to prove that the cop pulled them over in error. Continuing this example, the powers the be figure out that the driver was pulled over in error, wasn’t DUI, but doesn’t let the driver out of jail. This is more like what the Trump administration is doing.

Whether or not some of the people sent to El Salvador entered the US illegally is irrelevant because what the administration is doing can sweep up completely innocent people who didn’t enter the US illegally. I have no issue with deporting someone who entered the US illegally so long as there is a proper hearing to make sure they are not innocent.

Then you should have no issue with this case as HE admits he is here illegally. He is not innocent. Glad to see we agree.

You and the PP... maybe you are the same person. Why do you act like immigrating is a the most horrible act? You know that the US allows a lot of legal immigration, don't you? The reasons some get to authorization and others do not are varied and complex. Unless you are 100% Native American, it's likely that someone in your own family immigrated relatively recently. Can you remember the reasons why? Does it make them immoral, horrible people, incomprehensible, worthy of being sent to a concentration camp?

Sigh. I know you are just going to snap "it is a horrible act because it is illegal." If the US send illegal immigrants to CECOT for nothing other than their immigration status, then we are no better than the places that violate human rights with impunity. Is that want you want? Don't you believe in human rights? Don't you realize that the image of the US, and it's role in the world, will fall and that this will affect you in many ways??

In any case, a judge ruled that he could not be deported to El Salvador and he was . This is a MUCH worse mistake than anything the man has done so I strongly disagree that he is the only one at fault

An immigration judge, who is part of the executive branch. And this judge's order was posted on the previous page. The conclusion says Guatemala, not El Salvador.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.

That's impossible because you are a US citizen. Those on green card, Visas, fake asylum claims and undocumented are always at risk for deportation in that order

My mother emigrated to the US in 1962 from England, got a job, got married + a green card, bought a house, put money in a 401k, had 3 kids, and has never broken the law. The woman hasn’t gotten so much as a speeding ticket in 63 years. She has contributed to SS and has always paid her taxes.Yet, now at age 82 she could be deported. According to your rationale, because she has a green card Trump and his band of facists could pick her up at the library/senior center tomorrow and ship her off to El Salvador with no due process. Oh, it could be a MISTAKE, a judge could have opposed her arrest and stay in El Salvador but who cares! If you don’t see how this is a problem, we are lost as a country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense

What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.

The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.

Do you think it is OK if governments arrest people and deport them without a hearing straight to a prison in a foreign country where the US has no jurisdiction? How is that OK?

Do you think it’s ok to sneak over the border? How is that ok?

No. I voted for Trump mostly on the border failures. But unlike some, I have the ability to judge policy independently. I don't blindly accept everything because Trump does it. Do you?

No, but I accept that this person put themselves in this situation by breaking the law in the first place. It’s like getting a DUI then complaining your insurance went up.

No, it’s not. Your insurance goes up if you’re convicted of DUI, not just if you’re accused of DUI and later found to not have been DUI.

What the administration doing is more like the cop pulled the wrong car over, decided the wrong driver was DUI and sentenced the wrong driver to jail without a hearing. The lack of a hearing is the issue, because the driver never got a chance to prove that the cop pulled them over in error. Continuing this example, the powers the be figure out that the driver was pulled over in error, wasn’t DUI, but doesn’t let the driver out of jail. This is more like what the Trump administration is doing.

Whether or not some of the people sent to El Salvador entered the US illegally is irrelevant because what the administration is doing can sweep up completely innocent people who didn’t enter the US illegally. I have no issue with deporting someone who entered the US illegally so long as there is a proper hearing to make sure they are not innocent.

Then you should have no issue with this case as HE admits he is here illegally. He is not innocent. Glad to see we agree.

You and the PP... maybe you are the same person. Why do you act like immigrating is a the most horrible act? You know that the US allows a lot of legal immigration, don't you? The reasons some get to authorization and others do not are varied and complex. Unless you are 100% Native American, it's likely that someone in your own family immigrated relatively recently. Can you remember the reasons why? Does it make them immoral, horrible people, incomprehensible, worthy of being sent to a concentration camp?

Sigh. I know you are just going to snap "it is a horrible act because it is illegal." If the US send illegal immigrants to CECOT for nothing other than their immigration status, then we are no better than the places that violate human rights with impunity. Is that want you want? Don't you believe in human rights? Don't you realize that the image of the US, and it's role in the world, will fall and that this will affect you in many ways??

In any case, a judge ruled that he could not be deported to El Salvador and he was . This is a MUCH worse mistake than anything the man has done so I strongly disagree that he is the only one at fault

An immigration judge, who is part of the executive branch. And this judge's order was posted on the previous page. The conclusion says Guatemala, not El Salvador.

The DoJ says the government knew full well not to send him to El Salvador so it’s weird that they’re not using your DCUM defense about Guatemala that you keep repeating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

It has the same effect on me as police brutality/misconduct, imprisoning of people for crimes they didn't commit, or people escaping charges because they're rich or socially prominent. It undermines faith in the impartiality and fairness of the system.
Last month I saw a person who seemed to be fall down drunk, on the sidewalk by a 6 lane road. I hesitated a minute to call 911 because the person was brown, and I wasn't certain they'd be safe with police. I DID call, and waited till police and ambulance arrived, but I shouldn't have had to debate calling, IMO.
That's why wrongful acts by authorities, which aren't corrected promptly cause me an issue, and destroys our reliance on LEOs and judges

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.

That's impossible because you are a US citizen. Those on green card, Visas, fake asylum claims and undocumented are always at risk for deportation in that order

My mother emigrated to the US in 1962 from England, got a job, got married + a green card, bought a house, put money in a 401k, had 3 kids, and has never broken the law. The woman hasn’t gotten so much as a speeding ticket in 63 years. She has contributed to SS and has always paid her taxes.Yet, now at age 82 she could be deported. According to your rationale, because she has a green card Trump and his band of facists could pick her up at the library/senior center tomorrow and ship her off to El Salvador with no due process. Oh, it could be a MISTAKE, a judge could have opposed her arrest and stay in El Salvador but who cares! If you don’t see how this is a problem, we are lost as a country.

According to PP your mom is first up ahead of the undocumented, even. What a great system according to PP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/

What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.

DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.

This. I’m here because my grandparents fled countries where this happened. They’d be appalled at it happening here. We all should be.

No, I was appalled when Biden and the DNC just opened the doors and invited ten million unvetted poverty cases in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense

What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.

The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.

The law has not been followed. Deporting someone to a country you are specifically prohibited from deporting them to? Isn’t following the law. If this wasn’t such a clown show they could have legally deported him elsewhere, but they were either too lazy or too incompetent to do the work.

Those troublemakers are being deported to a country with a no nonsense prison system, where they need to be. These are MS-13, TDA and "18th Street" gang members. Got it?

Everyone has a right to due process. Got it?

I say we bring them back and put them in Martha's Vineyard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.

That's impossible because you are a US citizen. Those on green card, Visas, fake asylum claims and undocumented are always at risk for deportation in that order

My mother emigrated to the US in 1962 from England, got a job, got married + a green card, bought a house, put money in a 401k, had 3 kids, and has never broken the law. The woman hasn’t gotten so much as a speeding ticket in 63 years. She has contributed to SS and has always paid her taxes.Yet, now at age 82 she could be deported. According to your rationale, because she has a green card Trump and his band of facists could pick her up at the library/senior center tomorrow and ship her off to El Salvador with no due process. Oh, it could be a MISTAKE, a judge could have opposed her arrest and stay in El Salvador but who cares! If you don’t see how this is a problem, we are lost as a country.

Yes, but the man in question is brown. It’s okay for brown and black people to be treated this way.

[Anonymous]

Trump’s DOJ is fighting this because they guy is probably dead already.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DoJ lawyer who argued this and who conceded the government was wrong got fired today for not bending the knee. The oath sworn when admitted to the bar be dam**d.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/05/us/trump-news-tariffs?unlocked_article_code=1.9k4.trst.7kz84kncMSbW&smid=url-share

I saw this- I thought they were placed on administrative leave, but full on fired? good times

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The DoJ lawyer who argued this and who conceded the government was wrong got fired today for not bending the knee. The oath sworn when admitted to the bar be dam**d.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/05/us/trump-news-tariffs?unlocked_article_code=1.9k4.trst.7kz84kncMSbW&smid=url-share

This is terrifying. The administration is fighting this so hard not because they care about this specific person - they just want the unfettered power to expel *anyone* they want to without having to follow the constitution or follow court orders. This lawyer had the audacity to tell the truth and got fired for it.