Trump admin ADMITS wrongful deportation

Anonymous
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815/gov.uscourts.mdd.578815.1.1_2.pdf

The conclusion mentions Guatemala and not El Salvador. Guatemala is also on pages 4 and 8.
El Salvador also appears.
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Anonymous wrote:Would the man be in this situation if he did not come into the country illegally? Yes or No?


Based on WaPo reporting about the number of U.S. CITIZENS ICE has deported, the answer is, maybe!


I only asked about him, so nice try.
HE admits he came in illegally. Why is it so hard to just acknowledge his own actions caused his current situation.


The US government broke the law too. Is that ok? I don't think so. I tend to hold institutions to higher standards since they have multiple levels to ensure mistakes don't happen. Processes and the like.

But if you're ok with "mistakes"like that, what if this happened to your kid when they are off on spring break in Jamaica? Without further ado, off to a Haitian jail for you! What about those Americans caught illegally entering countries with ammo? Should they be summarily sent to El Salvador?


No, the PP would squeal like a pig if their kid was extra-judiciously sent to a Haitian prison for an immigration offense in Jamaica, and would tantrum hysterically until the U.S. government verified that their kid was either alabaster white or super wealthy, and only then intervened to rescue the kid.
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The DoJ lawyer who argued this and who conceded the government was wrong got fired today for not bending the knee. The oath sworn when admitted to the bar be dam**d.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/04/05/us/trump-news-tariffs?unlocked_article_code=1.9k4.trst.7kz84kncMSbW&smid=url-share
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I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.


Somehow ICE is not required to release statistics on how many American citizens it has “accidentally” deported, but WaPo this morning had the estimates at greater than 1% of deportees. Your concerns are well founded.
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Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.


That's impossible because you are a US citizen. Those on green card, Visas, fake asylum claims and undocumented are always at risk for deportation in that order
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.


That's impossible because you are a US citizen. Those on green card, Visas, fake asylum claims and undocumented are always at risk for deportation in that order


Nothing is impossible, except, according to this administration, retrieving anyone wrongfully deported to an El Salvadoran prison.
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Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/


What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.


Somehow ICE is not required to release statistics on how many American citizens it has “accidentally” deported, but WaPo this morning had the estimates at greater than 1% of deportees. Your concerns are well founded.
Citizen kids going with their illegal immigrant parents.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.


Somehow ICE is not required to release statistics on how many American citizens it has “accidentally” deported, but WaPo this morning had the estimates at greater than 1% of deportees. Your concerns are well founded.
Citizen kids going with their illegal immigrant parents.


Nope:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/04/05/us-citizens-deported-immigration/

You’re going to say you’re not going to pay for facts that hurt your feelings so here you go:

“ICE has arrested, detained, deported and issued detainers — requests to local jails to hold a person in custody — for thousands of citizens since the agency was created in 2003. One 2011 study estimated that roughly 1 to 1.5 percent of deportees are U.S. citizens.”

And the article cites seven recent cases, all adult men, no children of undocumented immigrants. Find a new theory of why it’s ok to treat American citizens this way.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/


What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.


DP. It has an effect on me that I live in a country and raise my child in a country where literally anyone can be grabbed off the street and sent to an El Salvadoran prison and then government can stand in front of a judge and say “oopsie!”. A better question is how *don’t* you care.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Then claims that they can't bring the person back.
WTH is this? They can't or won't fix their error? Is this the state of the US justice system? https://wtop.com/maryland/2025/04/trump-administration-concedes-maryland-father-from-el-salvador-was-mistakenly-deported-and-sent-to-mega-prison/


What effect does this have on you?

Seriously: why do you care? This has no effect whatsoever on you or anyone you know.


Do: Because I believe in law and order. Isn’t that what you voted for?
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Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense


What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.


The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.


The law has not been followed. Deporting someone to a country you are specifically prohibited from deporting them to? Isn’t following the law. If this wasn’t such a clown show they could have legally deported him elsewhere, but they were either too lazy or too incompetent to do the work.


Those troublemakers are being deported to a country with a no nonsense prison system, where they need to be. These are MS-13, TDA and "18th Street" gang members. Got it?


Are they? Did anyone provide proof of that before deportation? That's really not too much to ask. Follow the law.


HE broke the law. Now he cares about laws?


Trump broke the law too yet you voted for him. Do you care about the laws?


Actually I didn’t vote for him, so try again. I just believe in personal responsibility. The Man you are so upset about caused his situation, it’s 100% his fault.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I love how people are pro regulation but against enforcement . Enforcement is so yucky.

Y’all make no sense


What if people just want— crazy idea, buckle up— enforcement to follow the law? The government did something illegal, admits it, and is resisting fixing it. This could have been a non-story if they fixed it last week and your fantasy would have been undisturbed for a bit longer.


The law HAS been followed. You didn't like the idea of deportations, so you're stalling for time. NO.

How about if you don't import 10 million strangers to "flood the zone" without figuring out who they are and why they are coming here?

How many people did it it take to execute 9/11 in the US? Maybe 30?

More than that. You turned your head and looked away while rampant crime was rising - carjackings, robberies under $1000, flash mobs, murder and other stupid crap....because... you wanted to "brown" the country.

Seriously, I don't care if you're offended. You dropped all common sense out the window in the name of group hugs and empathy. Just f'n NO.


Do you think it is OK if governments arrest people and deport them without a hearing straight to a prison in a foreign country where the US has no jurisdiction? How is that OK?


Do you think it’s ok to sneak over the border? How is that ok?


No. I voted for Trump mostly on the border failures. But unlike some, I have the ability to judge policy independently. I don't blindly accept everything because Trump does it. Do you?


No, but I accept that this person put themselves in this situation by breaking the law in the first place. It’s like getting a DUI then complaining your insurance went up.


No, it’s not. Your insurance goes up if you’re convicted of DUI, not just if you’re accused of DUI and later found to not have been DUI.

What the administration doing is more like the cop pulled the wrong car over, decided the wrong driver was DUI and sentenced the wrong driver to jail without a hearing. The lack of a hearing is the issue, because the driver never got a chance to prove that the cop pulled them over in error. Continuing this example, the powers the be figure out that the driver was pulled over in error, wasn’t DUI, but doesn’t let the driver out of jail. This is more like what the Trump administration is doing.

Whether or not some of the people sent to El Salvador entered the US illegally is irrelevant because what the administration is doing can sweep up completely innocent people who didn’t enter the US illegally. I have no issue with deporting someone who entered the US illegally so long as there is a proper hearing to make sure they are not innocent.


Then you should have no issue with this case as HE admits he is here illegally. He is not innocent. Glad to see we agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I'm afraid one day they arrests everyone at the bus stop including me because we all are there to go to work. Since, I'm there with some illegals, they might arrest me and send me to El Salvador jail.

I'm thinking they are hitting bus stops, Home Depots, and seven elevens. Avoid those places if you don't want to be mistaken as an illegal.


That's impossible because you are a US citizen. Those on green card, Visas, fake asylum claims and undocumented are always at risk for deportation in that order

US citizens have absolutely been detained in these FUBAR messes. Starting with the first one in Newark.
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