BCC on lockdown

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This kid's address is a luxury Bethesda apartment building based on the Maryland case search info. https://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=D06CR25000641&loc=24&detailLoc=ODYCRIM

Oh, so it wasn't one of the poor people from Rosemary Hills?

I have 2 kids who recently graduated from BCC. I am tired of hearing how the low income community is the problem. There are plenty of rich, white kids at the school who are discipline problems and drug dealers and rapists and sexual harassers.

There are also plenty of low income kids from the Rosemary Hills neighborhood who come from immigrant families who are extremely bright, speak multiple languages, are in advanced classes and get in to excellent colleges.

And then there is a crew of European families who come here to work for the World Bank or other multilateral institutions or to do research at NIH. All of these families are relatively well off. Some of the students are pretty progressive, but some of the wealthy European students openly parrot the fascist politics of their home countries (Italy, Germany, and France in particular).

Wealth and citizenship or ethnicity are not at all the predictors of violence or discipline problems you think they are.

As for mental health issues -- IME, BCC admin is very bad at recognizing mental health issues and responding appropriately - they respond punitively instead of providing access to counselors at school and accommodations in the classroom. I personally know about instances in which the school's failure to respond to mental health issues appropriately was a contributing cause to violence and discipline issues. The school is a liability suit waiting to happen in that respect. Admin and teachers need additional training in this area.

Dollars to donuts this kid was living in one of the MPDUs that were gifted to Bethesda by the Planning Council.

So what? I have no idea what connection you are trying to make here.

Does someone really need to spell this out for you?

Apparently yes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The listserv moderator is controlling, claiming she is limiting the clutter. When in fact all she is add clutter by passing along the administration’s emails. In the past, parents could discuss such incidents freely without this extreme censorship. Another list serv is necessary for this school.

I agree that passing along every message from the school was annoying. I can’t imagine that there are many parents who don’t get the Remind messages but are on the PTSA listserv. I do appreciate that they are strict about what gets approved during these incidents, though, because there are always a lot of rumors that end up not being true and don’t help an already tense situation.

I agreed with her position not to pass along messages in that period. It’s mostly rumor and unhelpful.

Frankly, it’s a volunteer position. If she said she was only going to pass along whatever messages she could get through from 8pm-9pm, it would be ok. Maybe better.

I'm a BCC parent who has been on the list serv for at least 8 years (multiple kids.) I'm hugely supportive of the current modertor's approach; there are too many random messages as it is, and no one needs a flood of baseless speculation during a crisis. Personally I would apply a quota - there are two or three parents who agitate over every single thing that happens. And the people who feel the need to send every single music booster activity or sports annoucement, enough already.

Let's be honest here. The music activities posts are dwarved by a certain person posting in all caps about sports He doesn't even have kids at the school anymore, they're all adults. He's been an annoying fixture in local schools for years, I've had the misfortune to note. Please dude, retire already!!!

Now we're getting into his annual mulch mania. Sigh.

I love that guy! I do have a kid that plays a sport but under any circumstances I love how affirming he is of all sports. He wants to highlight success irrespective of whether you are in trendy sport or a less actively followed sport. I love to see examples of students doing great at extra curriculars and getting some public acknowledgement for their hard work. I love how the boosters invest in all sports. I think he is miles better than boosters from other schools who only prioritize football and boys basketball.

No, he sucks all the air out of the room. Please consider that there are activities other than sports! You seem to think that extra-curriculars are only comprised of athletics.

Maybe other extra-curriculars just need a similar champion sharing their wins on the listserve. He’s not standing in the way of that. I love to hear when the choir wins awards, or the robotics team gets invited to nationals, and similar. We just need more people to share good news not less.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This kid's address is a luxury Bethesda apartment building based on the Maryland case search info. https://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=D06CR25000641&loc=24&detailLoc=ODYCRIM

Oh, so it wasn't one of the poor people from Rosemary Hills?

I have 2 kids who recently graduated from BCC. I am tired of hearing how the low income community is the problem. There are plenty of rich, white kids at the school who are discipline problems and drug dealers and rapists and sexual harassers.

There are also plenty of low income kids from the Rosemary Hills neighborhood who come from immigrant families who are extremely bright, speak multiple languages, are in advanced classes and get in to excellent colleges.

And then there is a crew of European families who come here to work for the World Bank or other multilateral institutions or to do research at NIH. All of these families are relatively well off. Some of the students are pretty progressive, but some of the wealthy European students openly parrot the fascist politics of their home countries (Italy, Germany, and France in particular).

Wealth and citizenship or ethnicity are not at all the predictors of violence or discipline problems you think they are.

As for mental health issues -- IME, BCC admin is very bad at recognizing mental health issues and responding appropriately - they respond punitively instead of providing access to counselors at school and accommodations in the classroom. I personally know about instances in which the school's failure to respond to mental health issues appropriately was a contributing cause to violence and discipline issues. The school is a liability suit waiting to happen in that respect. Admin and teachers need additional training in this area.

I think we can all ignore this post. This is the first time I've heard of the fascist kids whose parents work for NIH. And rapists. And the fact that BCC punishes ANY students whatsoever. This is bonkers and sad.

Continue to live with your blinders on if you wish.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This kid's address is a luxury Bethesda apartment building based on the Maryland case search info. https://casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/inquiryDetail.jis?caseId=D06CR25000641&loc=24&detailLoc=ODYCRIM

Oh, so it wasn't one of the poor people from Rosemary Hills?

I have 2 kids who recently graduated from BCC. I am tired of hearing how the low income community is the problem. There are plenty of rich, white kids at the school who are discipline problems and drug dealers and rapists and sexual harassers.

There are also plenty of low income kids from the Rosemary Hills neighborhood who come from immigrant families who are extremely bright, speak multiple languages, are in advanced classes and get in to excellent colleges.

And then there is a crew of European families who come here to work for the World Bank or other multilateral institutions or to do research at NIH. All of these families are relatively well off. Some of the students are pretty progressive, but some of the wealthy European students openly parrot the fascist politics of their home countries (Italy, Germany, and France in particular).

Wealth and citizenship or ethnicity are not at all the predictors of violence or discipline problems you think they are.

As for mental health issues -- IME, BCC admin is very bad at recognizing mental health issues and responding appropriately - they respond punitively instead of providing access to counselors at school and accommodations in the classroom. I personally know about instances in which the school's failure to respond to mental health issues appropriately was a contributing cause to violence and discipline issues. The school is a liability suit waiting to happen in that respect. Admin and teachers need additional training in this area.

I think we can all ignore this post. This is the first time I've heard of the fascist kids whose parents work for NIH. And rapists. And the fact that BCC punishes ANY students whatsoever. This is bonkers and sad.

If it's the first time you're hearing that a female student has been raped by a male student, then you really aren't the kind of parent whose kids come to them and share what's really happening at school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Students (possibly the girl if this was indeed about her) were involved. Perhaps best not to state something about minors that could cause more issues for "that girl" if there really was a girl. Anywho, an adult should know better than to out that info out there, no?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Students (possibly the girl if this was indeed about her) were involved. Perhaps best not to state something about minors that could cause more issues for "that girl" if there really was a girl. Anywho, an adult should know better than to out that info out there, no?

Don't you think the "issues" to worry about are the ones caused by the minors who committed the crimes and not the fact that people are honestly and transparently talking about the facts behind the crime?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Students (possibly the girl if this was indeed about her) were involved. Perhaps best not to state something about minors that could cause more issues for "that girl" if there really was a girl. Anywho, an adult should know better than to out that info out there, no?

Don't you think the "issues" to worry about are the ones caused by the minors who committed the crimes and not the fact that people are honestly and transparently talking about the facts behind the crime?

people are "honestly" and "transparently" talking..maybe that's the problem. people who are hearing things from others are saying it, isn't that "rumors?"

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Students (possibly the girl if this was indeed about her) were involved. Perhaps best not to state something about minors that could cause more issues for "that girl" if there really was a girl. Anywho, an adult should know better than to out that info out there, no?

Don't you think the "issues" to worry about are the ones caused by the minors who committed the crimes and not the fact that people are honestly and transparently talking about the facts behind the crime?

people are "honestly" and "transparently" talking..maybe that's the problem. people who are hearing things from others are saying it, isn't that "rumors?"

Do you not see the irony and hypocrisy in you making this case as you, anonymously interrogate and question the sources of the parent without revealing who you are and what your motives are?

Remove the plank from your own eye....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Sure, but in this case it wasn't the journalist using anonymous sources. When that happens, I know the journalist has checked that the source is credible but is protecting the source. In this case, the non-anonymous source used by the journalist says he knows what he knows because he hears things from the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Sure, but in this case it wasn't the journalist using anonymous sources. When that happens, I know the journalist has checked that the source is credible but is protecting the source. In this case, the non-anonymous source used by the journalist says he knows what he knows because he hears things from the students.

How pompous. Who is that person to be "hearing from the students" if it's not a staff member of the school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Sure, but in this case it wasn't the journalist using anonymous sources. When that happens, I know the journalist has checked that the source is credible but is protecting the source. In this case, the non-anonymous source used by the journalist says he knows what he knows because he hears things from the students.

How pompous. Who is that person to be "hearing from the students" if it's not a staff member of the school?

He's the Booster President who has no doubt gained the trust of students and staff over time due to his contributions and time volunteered to the school community. This is not rocket science and I don't understand why you're confused about how or why he would hear and know things about the school, that his child is probably a part of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Update on the case: https://www.fox5dc.com/news/no-bond-bethesda-chevy-chase-hs-student-accused-firing-shots-during-fight-near-school

It sounds like the shootout was over a girl as some posters indicated. How pathetic.

There could be so much more to the story and there are always more than two sides. Everyone needs to stop with the rumors. It is pathetic that a grown up/parent/former parent whomever would say to media that according to their sources it was over a girl without saying what the source(s) was. Did the Principal ask parent(s) or adult(s) to stop saying such things as Principals ask of students not to post videos? A video at least is something you can watch and analyze yourself.

Not naming your sources is allowed in journalism. Not naming your sources does not mean the information you are sharing is uncredible.

You as a viewer are allowed to take information attributed to unnamed sources with more of a grain of salt if you wish, but it is not true that only named sources are credible or allowed to included in reporting.

Sure, but in this case it wasn't the journalist using anonymous sources. When that happens, I know the journalist has checked that the source is credible but is protecting the source. In this case, the non-anonymous source used by the journalist says he knows what he knows because he hears things from the students.

How pompous. Who is that person to be "hearing from the students" if it's not a staff member of the school?

He's the Booster President who has no doubt gained the trust of students and staff over time due to his contributions and time volunteered to the school community. This is not rocket science and I don't understand why you're confused about how or why he would hear and know things about the school, that his child is probably a part of.

What's the correlation?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:different question. unrelated to this.
Which MCP HS has smallest student population?

Rockville HS

Nope. Poolesville, then Damascus, then Rockville

I’m surprised Rockville isn’t the smallest in the county, I always thought it was the smallest since it’s so overshadowed by other bigger schools like Wheaton and RM.