Why do atheists post on the Religion forum?

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

What do you think you are doing spending your life proselytizing atheism to strangers on the internet?

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

What do you think you are doing spending your life proselytizing atheism to strangers on the internet?

Why do you care? Why not discuss the topic at hand? Why all the ad hominem focus?

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

Not the ones in this forum …

Oh really? Please link to the atheist posts in this thread which are factually incorrect.

Hint: This is where you say "I'm not gonna do your research for you!" and run tail, because it just is not so. Yet another claim you can't back up.

First, you post very little facts and instead seem to rely on rants. There are plenty of atheists who can articulate very compelling logical arguments, but you unable or unwilling to do so. There is a long tradition of atheist philosophical thought of which you appear entirely unaware. Finally, your writing style is overly dramatic and emotional which conveys low intellect and analytical ability.

+1

Any budding atheists here would be much better served by picking up a Sam Harris or Christopher Hitchens book or reading some Nietzsche rather then wasting time here with these simpletons.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

Not the ones in this forum …

Oh really? Please link to the atheist posts in this thread which are factually incorrect.

Hint: This is where you say "I'm not gonna do your research for you!" and run tail, because it just is not so. Yet another claim you can't back up.

First, you post very little facts and instead seem to rely on rants. There are plenty of atheists who can articulate very compelling logical arguments, but you unable or unwilling to do so. There is a long tradition of atheist philosophical thought of which you appear entirely unaware. Finally, your writing style is overly dramatic and emotional which conveys low intellect and analytical ability.

+1

Any budding atheists here would be much better served by picking up a Sam Harris or Christopher Hitchens book or reading some Nietzsche rather then wasting time here with these simpletons.

Another post making claims with no supporting evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

From a philosophical perspective, one could use the scientific method to prove whether someone collects stamps or not. The same is not true for proving the existence or non existence of God, which is metaphysical .

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

What do you think you are doing spending your life proselytizing atheism to strangers on the internet?

DP - agree with your implied meaning suggesting dogmatic atheists on this thread are just as guilty of the activities for which they profess to be opposed to.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

What do you think you are doing spending your life proselytizing atheism to strangers on the internet?

Why do you care? Why not discuss the topic at hand? Why all the ad hominem focus?

Apparently you are too simple to comprehend.

I will make it very easy for you.

The act of spending hours arguing with strangers about one’s religious beliefs (or lack thereof) is a form of practicing it.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

Not the ones in this forum …

Oh really? Please link to the atheist posts in this thread which are factually incorrect.

Hint: This is where you say "I'm not gonna do your research for you!" and run tail, because it just is not so. Yet another claim you can't back up.

First, you post very little facts and instead seem to rely on rants. There are plenty of atheists who can articulate very compelling logical arguments, but you unable or unwilling to do so. There is a long tradition of atheist philosophical thought of which you appear entirely unaware. Finally, your writing style is overly dramatic and emotional which conveys low intellect and analytical ability.

+1

Any budding atheists here would be much better served by picking up a Sam Harris or Christopher Hitchens book or reading some Nietzsche rather then wasting time here with these simpletons.

Another post making claims with no supporting evidence.

Would you like us to paste the entirety of the “letter to a Christian nation” in this thread?

My claim is that your emotional rants lack substance.

As you argue yourself, it is hard to prove a negative.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’d be interested to know whether the moderators of this forum are atheist since there seems a heavy bias towards rigidly atheistic mind sets.

Seems to me, that it's simply a matter of anyone being allowed to post whatever they want on any forum, whether or not it represents a dominate point of view.

I wonder, by "heavy bias...." do you mean that a surprising (to you) number of atheists post here?

Also, are you suggesting that the moderators should change the tone of the religion forum when atheism is discussed? Seems to me that that would show a bias towards religious belief.

Have you been to the politics forum? Seems like there is no bias there (or here on the religion forum)

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

Agreed. While I am an atheist, I find most of them extremely embarrassing and usually call myself agnostic if asked.

They are also very poorly read on basic philosophy and morality.

Plus one.

This survey shows that atheists and agnostics answer more questions about religion correctly than religious people.

www.pewresearch.org/religion/2019/07/23/which-religious-groups-know-what

Not the ones in this forum …

Oh really? Please link to the atheist posts in this thread which are factually incorrect.

Hint: This is where you say "I'm not gonna do your research for you!" and run tail, because it just is not so. Yet another claim you can't back up.

First, you post very little facts and instead seem to rely on rants. There are plenty of atheists who can articulate very compelling logical arguments, but you unable or unwilling to do so. There is a long tradition of atheist philosophical thought of which you appear entirely unaware. Finally, your writing style is overly dramatic and emotional which conveys low intellect and analytical ability.

+1

Any budding atheists here would be much better served by picking up a Sam Harris or Christopher Hitchens book or reading some Nietzsche rather then wasting time here with these simpletons.

Another post making claims with no supporting evidence.

Would you like us to paste the entirety of the “letter to a Christian nation” in this thread?

My claim is that your emotional rants lack substance.

As you argue yourself, it is hard to prove a negative.

DP. I’d like you to explain the “objective evidence” claimed earlier in the thread.

[Anonymous]

[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.[/quote]

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.
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+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?[/quote]

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.[/quote]


Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people. [/quote]

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

[b]Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[/b][b][/quote]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others. [/quote]

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.[/quote]

From a philosophical perspective, one could use the scientific method to prove whether someone collects stamps or not. The same is not true for proving the existence or non existence of God, which is metaphysical .[/quote]

Again, you are purposefully misrepresenting the question, which I request you answer:

Is not collecting stamps a hobby?

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Sorry for the bad cut and paste above.

Again, you are purposefully misrepresenting the question, which I request you answer:

Is not collecting stamps a hobby

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

From a philosophical perspective, one could use the scientific method to prove whether someone collects stamps or not. The same is not true for proving the existence or non existence of God, which is metaphysical .

Atheists do not say they have proven the non-existence of God, they simply do not believe in God. Sort of like adult religious believers don't believe in fairies.

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Anonymous wrote:New poster. If we are to extrapolate from fifteen pages of comments from posters claiming to be atheists, their reasons for posting on DCUM (to address the actual question) would seem to be that most derive a sense of moral and intellectual superiority about their place in the world, and perhaps secondarily that it seems to assuage their sense of anxiety and insecurity that a Christian nationalist-fueled political movement has given them.

What they are unwilling or unable to accept or, perhaps, comprehend, is that only some people of faith have an interest in proselytizing. Only some people of faith have an interest in translating a set of practices that are nominally rooted in that faith on others. And that private revelation, which can form much of the experiential basis of belief for many people of faith, is not something that most wish to share.

The people of faith on this thread do not seem to be offended by atheism, for the most part.

Ironically, it is the atheists who seem to be the most ardent proselytizers. And that is why this subset of them posts on DCUM.

You really think “get TF out of my uterus” is proselytizing? Interesting.

+1. I’m pretty sure that atheists are asking to be left the f alone. Not sure why that’s so hard to understand.

Also it is so disingenuous to say that the religious people in this thread aren’t offended by atheism. What else motivates religious posters to pick fights like this?

I think that some religious posters want to prove (or at least show) that atheists are wrong about religion, then get frustrated when they can't.

Au contraire - most mainstream religious posters appear to have sought to explain why religion and science are not necessarily in conflict .

They also get frustrated when ontological experiences and cultural practices are reduced to ridiculous oversimplifications and they are held responsible for all the problems in the world. There would not even be western science without the evolution of theological logic.

Religious beliefs and practices (including atheism) cannot be validated or invalidated by the scientific method. That does not mean they do not have deep value to many people.

I could correct nearly every line of your post but i will limit this to the most important one:

Atheism is not a religious practice. It is the state of an absence of one.

Just as not collecting stamps is not a hobby.[b]

That last line reflects your myopic world view. For many people, including my grandfather, stamp collecting is a hobby. Just because you do not share their interest or enthusiasm does not negate its value to others.

Strawman. We’re talking about your definition of atheism as a religious practice, not the value of it.

Are you claiming not collecting stamps is, in fact, a hobby?

Then nor is atheism a religious practice.

What do you think you are doing spending your life proselytizing atheism to strangers on the internet?

Why do you care? Why not discuss the topic at hand? Why all the ad hominem focus?

Apparently you are too simple to comprehend.

I will make it very easy for you.

The act of spending hours arguing with strangers about one’s religious beliefs (or lack thereof) is a form of practicing it.

No it isn't. I know you wish it was, but it just isn't. Our positions are not equal. Your statement is illogical.