FCPS Early Release Mondays

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Anonymous wrote:As a teacher, I wish the only PD ES got was this. If FCPS would stop piling on things and focused on one thing at a time, I feel like it could be done on SD days and TWD and maybe like 4 ER days instead of 7.

You “feel” like this could be done on TWD? Yeah, no.

Not what I said. I said if this was the only PD ES teachers got and they nixed dumb equity trainings and other BS we could also utilize Staff Development Days and TWD to have less ER. I would much rather have full days with my kids and less useless PD. This PD is required so they should cut out the unnecessary stuff.

Exactly. We could axe some of the very unnecessary trainings they have planned and sub in the needed and required literacy ones. But none of the NOVA school systems will do that.

All I want is to be able to teach my students for as many 5-day weeks as possible, and the system is making that incredibly challenging.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect this will harm the effort to move middle school start times due to the bus issue.

I do think this is why they are making it THREE hours instead off two.

I just don’t see how it could work if they need to run the busses three hours early and then again at the end of the regular school day? But that’s unclear.

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Anonymous wrote:I suspect this will harm the effort to move middle school start times due to the bus issue.

I do think this is why they are making it THREE hours instead off two.

I just don’t see how it could work if they need to run the busses three hours early and then again at the end of the regular school day? But that’s unclear.

Do the ER elem run at 1pm, do the MS run at 2pm, the HS run at 3pm, back to ES at 4pm

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They’re making it 3 hours because it’s a mandatory 32 hours of additional training: just 2 hours each time wouldn’t be enough to do the training.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.

Depends on how they count. According to my kids... there's no learning on early dismissal days and there's no learning when they have the regular once a week subs and there's no learning when they have subs for other reasons and there's no learning the week before Thanksgiving or the two weeks between Thanksgiving and winter break.....and there's no learning 4th quarter -- it's all sol review..and there's no learning after the sols....
So, I think it's ok for parents to ask the questions they are asking.

According to your kids…. You’re probably not getting the most accurate information. Education does not mean “new” instruction every day. Reviewing content for the SOL’s, reading a book, playing basketball in PE, all of those count towards the hours. Your child may not find it interesting or fun, but it still counts. Early release days are still 5 hours (at least) of a class day, do you think they’re just sitting around twiddling their thumbs?

More like Google and you-tube and computer games... because there is not enough time on early dismissal days...

How is there not enough time on early release days? 5 or so hours? That’s math, language arts, recess, lunch and specials. That a typical ER day at my school. Sometimes, specials or recess is switched out with science depending on the day.

There is, her kids are BS’ing her and she doesn’t realize it

It must be easy for you to think that....but I don't think so. My mom friends kids tell their parents the same...
I just asked my big kid again and big said they never have time for lessons on early release days. Of all of the things big could lie about why would it be this?

Well gee I don’t know why big lied to you!

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.

Depends on how they count. According to my kids... there's no learning on early dismissal days and there's no learning when they have the regular once a week subs and there's no learning when they have subs for other reasons and there's no learning the week before Thanksgiving or the two weeks between Thanksgiving and winter break.....and there's no learning 4th quarter -- it's all sol review..and there's no learning after the sols....
So, I think it's ok for parents to ask the questions they are asking.

According to your kids…. You’re probably not getting the most accurate information. Education does not mean “new” instruction every day. Reviewing content for the SOL’s, reading a book, playing basketball in PE, all of those count towards the hours. Your child may not find it interesting or fun, but it still counts. Early release days are still 5 hours (at least) of a class day, do you think they’re just sitting around twiddling their thumbs?

More like Google and you-tube and computer games... because there is not enough time on early dismissal days...

How is there not enough time on early release days? 5 or so hours? That’s math, language arts, recess, lunch and specials. That a typical ER day at my school. Sometimes, specials or recess is switched out with science depending on the day.

There is, her kids are BS’ing her and she doesn’t realize it

It must be easy for you to think that....but I don't think so. My mom friends kids tell their parents the same...
I just asked my big kid again and big said they never have time for lessons on early release days. Of all of the things big could lie about why would it be this?

How is it that they don’t have time? It’s not like school is 45 minutes on those days. (ES Teacher)

I'm not there...but in 5 hours they are doing morning meetings, lunch, recess, specials, time to line up for dismissal and all the time it takes to make each of those transitions. How much time would that leave for math, science, social studies, reading, writing, etc? Sounds like they run out of time, can't fit everything in, and the kids go on their computers instead. Maybe they'll plan for them differently when there's more of them?

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.

Depends on how they count. According to my kids... there's no learning on early dismissal days and there's no learning when they have the regular once a week subs and there's no learning when they have subs for other reasons and there's no learning the week before Thanksgiving or the two weeks between Thanksgiving and winter break.....and there's no learning 4th quarter -- it's all sol review..and there's no learning after the sols....
So, I think it's ok for parents to ask the questions they are asking.

According to your kids…. You’re probably not getting the most accurate information. Education does not mean “new” instruction every day. Reviewing content for the SOL’s, reading a book, playing basketball in PE, all of those count towards the hours. Your child may not find it interesting or fun, but it still counts. Early release days are still 5 hours (at least) of a class day, do you think they’re just sitting around twiddling their thumbs?

More like Google and you-tube and computer games... because there is not enough time on early dismissal days...

How is there not enough time on early release days? 5 or so hours? That’s math, language arts, recess, lunch and specials. That a typical ER day at my school. Sometimes, specials or recess is switched out with science depending on the day.

There is, her kids are BS’ing her and she doesn’t realize it

It must be easy for you to think that....but I don't think so. My mom friends kids tell their parents the same...
I just asked my big kid again and big said they never have time for lessons on early release days. Of all of the things big could lie about why would it be this?

Well gee I don’t know why big lied to you!

Oh,ok... you're a troll. Lol. Big has no motivation to lie about this.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.

Depends on how they count. According to my kids... there's no learning on early dismissal days and there's no learning when they have the regular once a week subs and there's no learning when they have subs for other reasons and there's no learning the week before Thanksgiving or the two weeks between Thanksgiving and winter break.....and there's no learning 4th quarter -- it's all sol review..and there's no learning after the sols....
So, I think it's ok for parents to ask the questions they are asking.

According to your kids…. You’re probably not getting the most accurate information. Education does not mean “new” instruction every day. Reviewing content for the SOL’s, reading a book, playing basketball in PE, all of those count towards the hours. Your child may not find it interesting or fun, but it still counts. Early release days are still 5 hours (at least) of a class day, do you think they’re just sitting around twiddling their thumbs?

More like Google and you-tube and computer games... because there is not enough time on early dismissal days...

How is there not enough time on early release days? 5 or so hours? That’s math, language arts, recess, lunch and specials. That a typical ER day at my school. Sometimes, specials or recess is switched out with science depending on the day.

There is, her kids are BS’ing her and she doesn’t realize it

It must be easy for you to think that....but I don't think so. My mom friends kids tell their parents the same...
I just asked my big kid again and big said they never have time for lessons on early release days. Of all of the things big could lie about why would it be this?

Well gee I don’t know why big lied to you!

Oh,ok... you're a troll. Lol. Big has no motivation to lie about this.

Maybe big’s perception of time is off. Maybe big is just being a card. One can’t presume to know why big does anything big does.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.

Depends on how they count. According to my kids... there's no learning on early dismissal days and there's no learning when they have the regular once a week subs and there's no learning when they have subs for other reasons and there's no learning the week before Thanksgiving or the two weeks between Thanksgiving and winter break.....and there's no learning 4th quarter -- it's all sol review..and there's no learning after the sols....
So, I think it's ok for parents to ask the questions they are asking.

According to your kids…. You’re probably not getting the most accurate information. Education does not mean “new” instruction every day. Reviewing content for the SOL’s, reading a book, playing basketball in PE, all of those count towards the hours. Your child may not find it interesting or fun, but it still counts. Early release days are still 5 hours (at least) of a class day, do you think they’re just sitting around twiddling their thumbs?

More like Google and you-tube and computer games... because there is not enough time on early dismissal days...

How is there not enough time on early release days? 5 or so hours? That’s math, language arts, recess, lunch and specials. That a typical ER day at my school. Sometimes, specials or recess is switched out with science depending on the day.

There is, her kids are BS’ing her and she doesn’t realize it

It must be easy for you to think that....but I don't think so. My mom friends kids tell their parents the same...
I just asked my big kid again and big said they never have time for lessons on early release days. Of all of the things big could lie about why would it be this?

How is it that they don’t have time? It’s not like school is 45 minutes on those days. (ES Teacher)

I'm not there...but in 5 hours they are doing morning meetings, lunch, recess, specials, time to line up for dismissal and all the time it takes to make each of those transitions. How much time would that leave for math, science, social studies, reading, writing, etc? Sounds like they run out of time, can't fit everything in, and the kids go on their computers instead. Maybe they'll plan for them differently when there's more of them?

About 2.5 hours are left. (ES Teacher)

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Admin will need to make a special 3 hour release schedule for lunches, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.

Depends on how they count. According to my kids... there's no learning on early dismissal days and there's no learning when they have the regular once a week subs and there's no learning when they have subs for other reasons and there's no learning the week before Thanksgiving or the two weeks between Thanksgiving and winter break.....and there's no learning 4th quarter -- it's all sol review..and there's no learning after the sols....
So, I think it's ok for parents to ask the questions they are asking.

According to your kids…. You’re probably not getting the most accurate information. Education does not mean “new” instruction every day. Reviewing content for the SOL’s, reading a book, playing basketball in PE, all of those count towards the hours. Your child may not find it interesting or fun, but it still counts. Early release days are still 5 hours (at least) of a class day, do you think they’re just sitting around twiddling their thumbs?

More like Google and you-tube and computer games... because there is not enough time on early dismissal days...

How is there not enough time on early release days? 5 or so hours? That’s math, language arts, recess, lunch and specials. That a typical ER day at my school. Sometimes, specials or recess is switched out with science depending on the day.

There is, her kids are BS’ing her and she doesn’t realize it

It must be easy for you to think that....but I don't think so. My mom friends kids tell their parents the same...
I just asked my big kid again and big said they never have time for lessons on early release days. Of all of the things big could lie about why would it be this?

Sure

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Anonymous wrote:Kids can stay at school until school gets out — so this is not going to put any parents behind in terms of care. I’m not sure what the big deal is.

What about the instructional hours that are being taken away?

As long as the instructional hours still fall at equal to or more than 990 then there’s not a problem with the state.

Depends on how they count. According to my kids... there's no learning on early dismissal days and there's no learning when they have the regular once a week subs and there's no learning when they have subs for other reasons and there's no learning the week before Thanksgiving or the two weeks between Thanksgiving and winter break.....and there's no learning 4th quarter -- it's all sol review..and there's no learning after the sols....
So, I think it's ok for parents to ask the questions they are asking.

According to your kids…. You’re probably not getting the most accurate information. Education does not mean “new” instruction every day. Reviewing content for the SOL’s, reading a book, playing basketball in PE, all of those count towards the hours. Your child may not find it interesting or fun, but it still counts. Early release days are still 5 hours (at least) of a class day, do you think they’re just sitting around twiddling their thumbs?

More like Google and you-tube and computer games... because there is not enough time on early dismissal days...

How is there not enough time on early release days? 5 or so hours? That’s math, language arts, recess, lunch and specials. That a typical ER day at my school. Sometimes, specials or recess is switched out with science depending on the day.

There is, her kids are BS’ing her and she doesn’t realize it

It must be easy for you to think that....but I don't think so. My mom friends kids tell their parents the same...
I just asked my big kid again and big said they never have time for lessons on early release days. Of all of the things big could lie about why would it be this?

Well gee I don’t know why big lied to you!

Oh,ok... you're a troll. Lol. Big has no motivation to lie about this.

Wow you have some issues- you are still ranting about this. Maybe Big tells you everything you want to hear so you'll stop asking the same pointless questions.

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Anonymous wrote:It's like the school board and the extremely top heavy administration don't actually care about kids actually learning.

They got rid of the old early release Mondays at parents' request but it did not help children or learning. They need to bring it back so that elementary school teachers would have proper planning time and less stress and overwork. That's what the administration should do if they care about kids actually learning.

This. I'm tired of hearing parents "my kids learn nothing at school but take my kids more" schools are not day cares and teachers need planning. period and no they should not have to do state mandated trainings without pay or for some measly 15 dollars and hour. NO!

Exactly. Which is why they need EVERY MONDAY OFF for training and planning.

If teachers need so much time for training and planning, why don't they just do scripted curriculums? It would take all the need for planning time away. The teachers get trained once on the curriculum and voila!

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Anonymous wrote:Will this fully eliminate the instances where classes have a standing sub one day a week for training/ meetings (which has been happening in my kiddos classrooms the last few years already)? Or is this lost learning time/ more routine juggling for the kiddos in addition to all that....?

Nope, this is completely different. These early release days are essentially for the reading trainings.

Yes. The state just mandated 32 ADDITIONAL hours of reading training on top of all the other stuff we have to do.

The state should pay for that instead of taking it out of existing instructional time.

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Anonymous wrote:Will this fully eliminate the instances where classes have a standing sub one day a week for training/ meetings (which has been happening in my kiddos classrooms the last few years already)? Or is this lost learning time/ more routine juggling for the kiddos in addition to all that....?

Nope, this is completely different. These early release days are essentially for the reading trainings.

Yes. The state just mandated 32 ADDITIONAL hours of reading training on top of all the other stuff we have to do.

The state should pay for that instead of taking it out of existing instructional time. Way to go Glenn Youngkin - screwing teachers and students!