Why have people given up on looking attractive when they go out?

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Yes. Society is dying for its lack of manicures.

You’re an idiot.

No, you misunderstood the point. Have you ever heard the saying by Benjamin Franklin “if you want something done ask a busy person?” If you’re put together, you have time to do the little things like manicures. If you’re a disorganized mess, you don’t. If you can’t even manage to put on a pair of slacks instead of sweatpants or leggings, what else can’t you do?

SLACKS?

This is probably the same person who advised someone going to a rock concert to wear “pumps.”

Yes, it’s funny when people are older than us. We should mock them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because Americans are slobs. FULL STOP

I fear that you're correct. I am English, live and work in the DMV, and am currently in Dublin for a work trip. Earlier this afternoon, I walked across the campus of Trinity College with my daughter, who is a student at University College Dublin, and even the student population here is better dressed than what you see at Georgetown, GWU, CU, AU, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:My mom refused to leave the hospital following her mastectomy without full hair and makeup, a nice outfit, and nylons and heels.

She was from another time…a time when Americans tried. Now it’s as though everyone has thrown in the towel. I’ve seen so many adults walking around in pajamas in public lately. Not even athleisure…legit pj’s.

Does this happen in other countries?

No, not really. I have never seen this anywhere in Europe. I grew up in England, Bavaria, and Austria, and go back frequently for work and personal reasons. I am currently in Dublin, Ireland, and I have not seen a single person in pyjamas. My daughter is a student at University College Dublin, and I just asked her if she's ever seen her uni mates in sleepwear, and she shook her head in response. We're going out to dinner now, so have a lovely afternoon/evening, ladies.

[Anonymous]

I attended a birthday party for an elderly relative this weekend and one of his friends (late 80s) told me she get dressed up to attend Zoom church at home!

Now that would never be me for many reasons, but I thought it was charming.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ask yourself why the opinion of others matters so much to you.

Ask yourself why the opinions of others DOESN’T matter to you.

Because I have better things to do. Seriously, you should try it. It’s freeing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is fascinating to look at photographs of cities and people back in the 1950s and earlier and notice how dressed up everyone was in public, even the working people. And for an older generation, they still wore ties to do chores around the house. People clearly believed it was part of being a citizen to show respect for others by dressing nicely in public. And I do agree there is merit to it. I definitely treat people who dress better differently than those who are slobs and indifferent.

Agree. It is really depressing. I do think it has something do with majority of people being overweight now. Stretchy and baggy clothing is just easier to fit into.

[Anonymous]

I hate seeing pjs and those fleece lounge pants out in public. I tell my husband if I ever do that, I need a checkup.

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Anonymous wrote:ask yourself why the opinion of others matters so much to you.

Ask yourself why the opinions of others DOESN’T matter to you.

Because I have better things to do. Seriously, you should try it. It’s freeing.

Sometimes mild restrictions and expectations make things a little better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Yes. Society is dying for its lack of manicures.

You’re an idiot.

No, you misunderstood the point. Have you ever heard the saying by Benjamin Franklin “if you want something done ask a busy person?” If you’re put together, you have time to do the little things like manicures. If you’re a disorganized mess, you don’t. If you can’t even manage to put on a pair of slacks instead of sweatpants or leggings, what else can’t you do?

SLACKS?

This is probably the same person who advised someone going to a rock concert to wear “pumps.”

Yes, it’s funny when people are older than us. We should mock them.

Oh, come on. My mother is 77, so pretty freakin’ old, and she went to tons of rock concerts in her day. She knows that you don’t wear low-heeled pumps, sensible double knit slacks, and a tasteful strand of pearls to a rock show. That is just the recommendation of someone completely out of touch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:ask yourself why the opinion of others matters so much to you.

Ask yourself why the opinions of others DOESN’T matter to you.

Because I’m not 5. Your opinion of me means absolutely nothing.

Being an adult is great. You should try it.

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Anonymous wrote:No excuses ladies. You don’t take care of yourselves anymore

You use "taking care of yourself" as code for "striving to appear physically attractive to others". How misogynistic of you.

I'm in excellent health and have excellent hygiene. I usually wear athletic clothing with my hair in a pony tail and no make up. Why should I care whether randos think I'm attractive or not?

I started my professional career, like a PP, being required to wear pantyhose and makeup. I'm SO glad those days are over!

It’s not about others thinking I’m attractive. It’s about respect for myself and respect for those around me. When I’m dressed up and put together, I work harder and do better in everything. You can tell my mental state by the state of my nails.

Besides, it takes just as much time to put on sweatpants as it does to put on a nice outfit. Or do your dressy clothes have some sort of weird contraptions?

I also started off my career in pantyhose and makeup and I wish business formal attire were still a thing. It made most people more present, focused, hardworking and more respectful.

We are degenerating as a society, unfortunately.

Yes. Society is dying for its lack of manicures.

You’re an idiot.

No, you misunderstood the point. Have you ever heard the saying by Benjamin Franklin “if you want something done ask a busy person?” If you’re put together, you have time to do the little things like manicures. If you’re a disorganized mess, you don’t. If you can’t even manage to put on a pair of slacks instead of sweatpants or leggings, what else can’t you do?

SLACKS?

This is probably the same person who advised someone going to a rock concert to wear “pumps.”

Yes, it’s funny when people are older than us. We should mock them.

Oh, come on. My mother is 77, so pretty freakin’ old, and she went to tons of rock concerts in her day. She knows that you don’t wear low-heeled pumps, sensible double knit slacks, and a tasteful strand of pearls to a rock show. That is just the recommendation of someone completely out of touch.

The PP’s were clearly mocking the use of the words “pumps” and “slacks” more so than the suggestions. Hence my reply.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:ask yourself why the opinion of others matters so much to you.

Ask yourself why the opinions of others DOESN’T matter to you.

Because I have better things to do. Seriously, you should try it. It’s freeing.

Sometimes mild restrictions and expectations make things a little better.

That’s crazy. No one should ever be subject to any restrictions ever. Nor should they be expected to feel even the slightest discomfort. No one else in the world matters except for ME. My opinion matters, yours doesn’t. My comfort matters, yours doesn’t. Other people are basically NPC’s. I am the main character!! ME ME ME.

(This is what most of the respondents on this thread sound like, BTW. And yet they think they’re adults. Oh well.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is fascinating to look at photographs of cities and people back in the 1950s and earlier and notice how dressed up everyone was in public, even the working people. And for an older generation, they still wore ties to do chores around the house. People clearly believed it was part of being a citizen to show respect for others by dressing nicely in public. And I do agree there is merit to it. I definitely treat people who dress better differently than those who are slobs and indifferent.

Agree. It is really depressing. I do think it has something do with majority of people being overweight now. Stretchy and baggy clothing is just easier to fit into.

Agree. Like it or not, ones appearance has an effect on how others view you. I promise you, even the overweight ones in keggings and a messy bun are judging others based on looks and presentation. We need more mirrors.

[Anonymous]

My comfort matters, yours doesn’t

so..... I should dress for others' comfort? That's crazy.
I'm dressing how I want to, when I want to, and it's not my issue if someone has a problem with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I overheard my husband and his friend talking about another dad for being a slob which i honestly found hysterical since I am so used to women being catty. "Did you see that guy...Fat, Mandalorian t-shirt, neckbeard and flip flops. How can he call himself a grown man."
Men are totally guilty of dressing like toddlers and it is so unattractive. I guess if their wives are in sweats every day they feel it's their prerogative.
We are not wealthy and get most of our clothes at consignment since we spend our money on our kids, but they are REAL clothes and we always look like adults who care about ourselves.

Sounds like Jason Kelce - you know, People magazine's sexiest man alive. He says it's "A Win for Plus-Sized, Bearded Men" 🥰

I thought this was a joke, but somehow it’s not