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I watched it live for some time and they are not calling for peace or a ceasefire. The tone is very nationalistic |
Israel drove the Palestinians to Gaza because they didn’t want that land and it never was part of greater Israel that had had Jewish ancestors , was never agreed to be part of Israel by UN |
The rally isn’t to support Israel’s policy in the West Bank. It’s to call for the release of the 240 hostages Hamas took who are still trapped in Gaza, to condemn the extreme left embrace of Hamas, and to stand up against the rejection of Israel’s right to exist and anti-semitism that the “pro Palestinian activism” has unleashed around the world. If you can’t separate those things from political support of Israel’s right wing prime minister, you’re not worth having a dialogue with. |
I have watched for a while. Mostly students speaking up to this point. They express pride in their Judaism. They are also speaking to the antisemitism they have suffered. I have heard at least 3 speakers talk about the hostages and how they need to be released. Make that 4 speakers. Another one just spoke about it. |
I respectfully disagree. There is no meaningful solution without also addressing Netanyahu and the settlers. |
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The world has not embraced Hamas, neither is anyone saying Israel should not exist and the antisemitism that you are referring to sounds like criticism of Israel. The hostages are a good point, but what is it that the US government should do? |
Sorry. You are so wrong re: the bolded. We have seen march after march with very loud and very angry protesters calling for the end to Israel. And, there has been plenty of antisemitism on this board alone not to mention what has been chanted at the "mostly peaceful" protests. Stop your gaslighting. |
One more thing.... when we see the flag of Hamas and the flag of ISIS (!) at some of these pro-Hamas rallies, I know which side I want to be on. |
No one is embracing Hamas (other than Netanyahu, although he's probably changed his mind by now). What people are doing is distancing themselves from Israel. AIPAC is desperate to equate the two |
If the pro-Palestinian protestors wanted sympathy from the American public, they would be demanding three things: 1) Surrender by Hamas 2) Release of the hostages 3) Ceasefire Until they do that, I don't care what they have to say. The Palestinians demanding a ceasefire now, after the 10/7 massacre, would be like me sucker-punching a professional MMA fighter in the groin, them immediately demanding that he not be allowed to retaliate. |
At this point, I honestly doubt they care what the world thinks about them. And I can't blame them- much of the world, even in places like American academia, seems to be fine with Jews being massacred. |
Well then, respectfully, there is also no solution without addressing Hamas and their terrorism. Which pro Palestinians have not been using their platform to condemn. They’ve been using their platform to rip American flags down on Veterans Day, and to hold posters calling for the annihilation of israel and Jews. How can there be a meaningful conversation about peace with those whose hatred for Israel and Jews seems stronger than their belief for a Palestinian state? How can there be a meaningful conversations are not calling for Hamas’s destruction? And as bad as Netanyahu is, Hamas is in a different stratosphere of extremism- would you rather live under Hamas’s Gaza or netanyahu’s israel? I’m *extremely* critical of Netanyahu and agree he should go, but I know which place of the two id pick to live. |
| Live coverage on Fox. Crowd looks huge. |
Families of those being held hostage will be speaking. I hope there is someone to speak for the 3 YO whose parents were slaughtered before she was taken captive. |