2024 US News rankings
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Anonymous
This ranking has now become useless for many families now. Previously a high achieving student could look at this ranking and got a good feel for where similarly academically gifted, well connected, will heeled students were headed. Such a student could get a good feel for academic reputation, class sizes and where students in similar circumstances had the most opportunities for undergrad research. But catering to such families is considered racist and politically incorrect now, so US News has thrown these parents and students under the bus and opted to focus on Pell Grant students and their needs while abandoning metrics that really matter for the academically gifted student. That is why many over crowded, financially strapped public universities that don't primarily focus on academic experience above all else have risen in the rankings. Virtue signaling at it's worst, but it won't help the magazine. They will still become irrelevant very soon because they actually tried to straddle the fence instead of just picking "accessibility" metrics totally and so, will still piss off the folks they are trying to please while also pissing off the folks who actually found their older model useful previously |
Anonymous
It's an anonymous board which tends to bring out the worst in people. |
Anonymous
Yes, let's have real rankings. |
Anonymous
They should have fallen much more. |
Anonymous
No… you don’t understand. You keep referring to (and just listed) the US graduate school rankings of THE, the other one is the US undergrad ranking of THE. They just haven’t updated it since last year yet but at least use the undergrad ranking so we can compare apples to apples. Just look at the title, it says US Colleges: https://www.timeshighereducation.com/rankings/united-states/2022 |
Anonymous
They should come down 10 more. |
Anonymous
Notre Dame 201-250 |
Anonymous
| Honestly, and perhaps this is an unpopular opinion, this is the most “accurate” ranking of colleges I’ve seen, perhaps ever, from US News. |
Anonymous
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The reworked formula assigned greater emphasis to graduation rates for students who received need-based Pell grants and retention. It also introduced metrics tied to first-generation college students and to whether recent graduates were earning more than people who had completed only high school.
“The company discarded five factors that often favored wealthy colleges and together made up 18 percent of a school’s score, including undergraduate class sizes, alumni giving rates and high school class standing. This year’s formula, which relied more on data sources beyond submissions by schools, also gave less weight to overall graduation rates and financial resources per student, which examines how much, on average, a university spends per student on costs like instruction and research.” -NY Times The rankings no longer focus on education or reputation but mostly focus on how schools help lower income and underrepresented students. I wonder if the change will finally break DCUM’s obsession with these rankings? |
Anonymous
I didn’t need to pay for anything. UVA wasn’t listed in the top ten, so I stopped searching. It’s really not very time consuming and quite obvious that you didn’t think through your comments. |
Anonymous
Yes, likely. |
Anonymous
Sour grapes much? |
Anonymous
+100 such poo cake |
Anonymous
UVA business has been declining for years. |
Anonymous
I have little doubt that the qualifications of the faculty at the UC schools, Rutgers, etc are every bit as good and probably better than those at schools like Wake. |