DS given melatonin gummies as prank by “friends at sleepover

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Anonymous wrote:Weighing in on switching schools- why should this poor kid have to switch schools? If the families of the bullies aren't showing any remorse, I'd be telling everyone to stay clear of them. Make them the social outcasts, not the poor kid.
I would definitely switch teams, though. There's no way to rebuild the trust necessary to be a team after that. And no reason a kid should have to try that process. They're not professional athletes working for someone. The team doesn't deserve OP's son

He shouldn’t have to, but at some point parents need to make decisions based on safety. What that final straw is will be different for everyone. If I didn’t see any consequences for drugging my kid and no protection measures put in place to keep these kids away from mine, I’d seriously consider pulling them from school.

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Anonymous wrote:Np. I am so sorry this happened. My thoughts:

1. Tell the school. I’m no longer in DMV but at our public kids can be disciplined for activities that take place outside school. They may be able to help determine whether anything has been uploaded to social media.

You also don’t want your kid to have any classes with these boys and they should have different lunch periods.

2. Tell the coach. He has a problem on his team and needs to know.

3. Tell the parents. I like the idea of a group email to all of them. You shouldn’t have to send 14 separate emails.

4. Help for your son: therapist to process the incident and confirm it was not his fault. Also, to increase confidence so he learns that these guys are not his friends and that he should not aspire to be friends with him.

Good luck and please keep us posted. Your kid sounds awesome and he does not need to hang out with these jerks.

This is unnecessary and very likely impossible.

Restraining order

At that point it’s easier to switch schools.

Only 5 of the kids go to the same school as DS. He has his own friends at school outside these boys.

But these boys (soccer boys) are of a higher social status and could make DS life hell if the wish. He knows that.

When will this social status crap end. They already made his life miserable. He needs to make friends with the football, hockey and lacrosse players if your concern is them bullying him. Soccer isn’t exactly known for, well, anything in the US except children’s activities. Maybe a new sport would help.

Oh, he is in track too. He’s a so-so soccer player on a so-so team but he’s very talented as a long distance runner. Obviously also not a super respected sport, but he truly excels.

This is such a weird comment.

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OP I’m beginning to think you’re a troll or a bored teenager obsessed with social status. If you are not, then please stop trying to decide what’s respected or not, what’s where in a social hierarchy, etc. It’s not clear if your son plays hs soccer or just club. Regardless he should drop both since he doesn’t sound great and his team is not adding anything to his life. Instead put him in hs cross country (same season as soccer anyways), indoor and outdoor track.

I also suspect OP is a troll. Don't most soccer leagues end the season in May?

I suspect your not very bright. I think you and PP are the trolls. Can’t anyone just come on here and ask for support or advice without everyone trying to be a modern Sherlock Holmes and find flaws and pick it apart. Even if soccer ended in May who gives a F? My kids play on teams that ended in May and they all still get together over the summer as a team for things like this. Honestly, you can really see the adults here who probably spawned the very same kinds of kids who do stuff like this to others.

But they had practice yesterday

This does seem suspect. All of the kids are done, except the ones going to championships. This means there’s a very narrow set of kids this could be. OP if your son is on the team I’m guessing he’s on, that culture is highly toxic.

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Anonymous wrote:Np. I am so sorry this happened. My thoughts:

1. Tell the school. I’m no longer in DMV but at our public kids can be disciplined for activities that take place outside school. They may be able to help determine whether anything has been uploaded to social media.

You also don’t want your kid to have any classes with these boys and they should have different lunch periods.

2. Tell the coach. He has a problem on his team and needs to know.

3. Tell the parents. I like the idea of a group email to all of them. You shouldn’t have to send 14 separate emails.

4. Help for your son: therapist to process the incident and confirm it was not his fault. Also, to increase confidence so he learns that these guys are not his friends and that he should not aspire to be friends with him.

Good luck and please keep us posted. Your kid sounds awesome and he does not need to hang out with these jerks.

This is unnecessary and very likely impossible.

Restraining order

At that point it’s easier to switch schools.

Only 5 of the kids go to the same school as DS. He has his own friends at school outside these boys.

But these boys (soccer boys) are of a higher social status and could make DS life hell if the wish. He knows that.

When will this social status crap end. They already made his life miserable. He needs to make friends with the football, hockey and lacrosse players if your concern is them bullying him. Soccer isn’t exactly known for, well, anything in the US except children’s activities. Maybe a new sport would help.

Oh, he is in track too. He’s a so-so soccer player on a so-so team but he’s very talented as a long distance runner. Obviously also not a super respected sport, but he truly excels.

This is such a weird comment.

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OP I’m beginning to think you’re a troll or a bored teenager obsessed with social status. If you are not, then please stop trying to decide what’s respected or not, what’s where in a social hierarchy, etc. It’s not clear if your son plays hs soccer or just club. Regardless he should drop both since he doesn’t sound great and his team is not adding anything to his life. Instead put him in hs cross country (same season as soccer anyways), indoor and outdoor track.

I also suspect OP is a troll. Don't most soccer leagues end the season in May?

I suspect your not very bright. I think you and PP are the trolls. Can’t anyone just come on here and ask for support or advice without everyone trying to be a modern Sherlock Holmes and find flaws and pick it apart. Even if soccer ended in May who gives a F? My kids play on teams that ended in May and they all still get together over the summer as a team for things like this. Honestly, you can really see the adults here who probably spawned the very same kinds of kids who do stuff like this to others.

But they had practice yesterday

This does seem suspect. All of the kids are done, except the ones going to championships. This means there’s a very narrow set of kids this could be. OP if your son is on the team I’m guessing he’s on, that culture is highly toxic.

Or this is fabricated, the more likely scenario.

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Some teams practice year round. My son's club has soccer camp right now and then evening practices starting in July twice a week. It's definitely plausible that teams are still practicing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DS(15) went to a sleepover Saturday night and was given melatonin gummies as a prank by his “friends”.


It was about 14 boys camping in one of the boys backyard. They were watching movies on an outdoor screen and eating snacks. One of the boys fixed DS a plate of various snacks that included fruit snacks with melatonin gummies mixed in.

We don’t know exactly how much he ate but probably potentially as many as 15. He said towards the end of the movie he started feeling very drowsy and dizzy and ended up falling asleep. This was probably around 10:45pm. He woke up around 1:30am feeling sick and ended up vomiting, felt better and continued to sleep. He assumed he ate too much junk.

He said he had a very hard time waking up and when he did the other boys were laughing and asking “sleep well?” “We’re you tired last night?” and they had also written on his face and hidden a lot of his items.

One of the boys ended up disclosing that they had given him (and only him) melatonin gummies last night. Then apparently all the other boys laughed and said it was a prank.

DS texted me to pick him up and I got him a round 11:00am and he was still super groggy. I assumed they were up all night. He then got nauseous again and I had to pull over the car for him to vomit. I was slightly worried they had been drinking and when I asked he then he told me about the melatonin prank. I was super concerned and we ended up going to urgent care after calling poison control.

They ran a few test and did bloodwork and everything came back normal (no drugs or alcohol in system). They were not able to test for levels of melatonin in his blood at this urgent care center.

He got some Zofran, fluids and napped while being observed and he is now totally fine.

He is begging me not to confront the parents but I find this behavior very very concerning.

All these boys are on the same soccer team but DS is the odd man out and has been picked on by a few of the boys before. I’m not sure if every single boy was involved or not, but they all seemed to at least be aware from what DS told me.

I 100% believe DS as be does not lie. He’s a great kid but has some issues socializing and so often becomes the target of his peers.

What if they had given him something else? Something riskier than Melatonin gummies? What are these boys going to do in 3 years in college? They have time to mature and understand what they did was wrong but I believe their parents should know.

DS says this will make things much worse for him, which I also understand.

Thoughts?

Ds was the victim of a si.iliar sleepover prank at the same age, also sports.

I will tell you this:

Your son is afraid he won't be let into the group if he tells.
The sad reality is that he will never be let into the group. They do not target "potential memebers" of the group.

They were telling him something and closing the wagon circle among the ranks by silently agreeing to poison your son.

Unless your son is a D1 athlete, I would get him as far away from the group as possible.

And yes, tell.

What they did was insane
You could be saving the life of the next kid they do that to when it's college and the pills are something harder than melatonin
In fact, I would involve the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weighing in on switching schools- why should this poor kid have to switch schools? If the families of the bullies aren't showing any remorse, I'd be telling everyone to stay clear of them. Make them the social outcasts, not the poor kid.
I would definitely switch teams, though. There's no way to rebuild the trust necessary to be a team after that. And no reason a kid should have to try that process. They're not professional athletes working for someone. The team doesn't deserve OP's son

Why should the poor kid have to stay and fight against a reputation against an entire school? Get real. This isn't an 80s movie.

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Anonymous wrote:DS(15) went to a sleepover Saturday night and was given melatonin gummies as a prank by his “friends”.


It was about 14 boys camping in one of the boys backyard. They were watching movies on an outdoor screen and eating snacks. One of the boys fixed DS a plate of various snacks that included fruit snacks with melatonin gummies mixed in.

We don’t know exactly how much he ate but probably potentially as many as 15. He said towards the end of the movie he started feeling very drowsy and dizzy and ended up falling asleep. This was probably around 10:45pm. He woke up around 1:30am feeling sick and ended up vomiting, felt better and continued to sleep. He assumed he ate too much junk.

He said he had a very hard time waking up and when he did the other boys were laughing and asking “sleep well?” “We’re you tired last night?” and they had also written on his face and hidden a lot of his items.

One of the boys ended up disclosing that they had given him (and only him) melatonin gummies last night. Then apparently all the other boys laughed and said it was a prank.

DS texted me to pick him up and I got him a round 11:00am and he was still super groggy. I assumed they were up all night. He then got nauseous again and I had to pull over the car for him to vomit. I was slightly worried they had been drinking and when I asked he then he told me about the melatonin prank. I was super concerned and we ended up going to urgent care after calling poison control.

They ran a few test and did bloodwork and everything came back normal (no drugs or alcohol in system). They were not able to test for levels of melatonin in his blood at this urgent care center.

He got some Zofran, fluids and napped while being observed and he is now totally fine.

He is begging me not to confront the parents but I find this behavior very very concerning.

All these boys are on the same soccer team but DS is the odd man out and has been picked on by a few of the boys before. I’m not sure if every single boy was involved or not, but they all seemed to at least be aware from what DS told me.

I 100% believe DS as be does not lie. He’s a great kid but has some issues socializing and so often becomes the target of his peers.

What if they had given him something else? Something riskier than Melatonin gummies? What are these boys going to do in 3 years in college? They have time to mature and understand what they did was wrong but I believe their parents should know.

DS says this will make things much worse for him, which I also understand.

Thoughts?

Ds was the victim of a si.iliar sleepover prank at the same age, also sports.

I will tell you this:

Your son is afraid he won't be let into the group if he tells.
The sad reality is that he will never be let into the group. They do not target "potential memebers" of the group.

They were telling him something and closing the wagon circle among the ranks by silently agreeing to poison your son.

Unless your son is a D1 athlete, I would get him as far away from the group as possible.

And yes, tell.

What they did was insane
You could be saving the life of the next kid they do that to when it's college and the pills are something harder than melatonin
In fact, I would involve the police.

And, to clarify, "unless he's a d1 athlete " meaning his team is on recruiting radars and his chances of being recruited are diminished by leaving.
And in that case, don't allow him to socialize with the team anymore anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:File a police report. Ruin their lives.

Their lives will not be ruined at the age they are, but absolutely the OP should be filing a police report ASAP.

Dosing another person with any kind of drug is ASSAULT. Period. Kids of this age know well enough to know this. They assaulted your son knowingly and intentionally.

Yes, their frontal lobes have not fully developed. Because of that they will be handled in a juvenile justice system that provides for rehabilitation and expungement so they can start their adult lives as if nothing happened - but hopefully having since developed a conscience that will keep them from doing psychopathic things to other people once they are adults.

This is absolutely not something that the offenders’ parents should be handling in house. It was a serious assault and if they’d been stupid enough to use something stronger, you could be planning your son’s funeral arrangements, I hope you understand that.

Think about it very carefully before you decide to let these budding date rapists etc. go blithely along without very serious consequences for this ASSAULT on your son.

I’m a former prosecutor who worked extensively in the juvenile justice system and have seen UMC kids do heinous things and get rehabilitated by accountability. You need to recognize that there are plenty of shit UMC parents. The system exists to protect society from kids who either aren’t learning values at home, or have some defect of personality that the values aren’t taking root because of course sometimes good parents raise a criminal.

Call the police. An officer will come to your house and the process will go from there.

Yes. This. Call the police. Let them call the parents. The boys are 15 so it won’t ruin their lives, but you can be sure the lesson will land.

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Also, if you go to the police about this, ask about switching schools without moving your home. I’ve seen it done, and this case 💯 warrants such an action.

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Anonymous wrote:Np. I am so sorry this happened. My thoughts:

1. Tell the school. I’m no longer in DMV but at our public kids can be disciplined for activities that take place outside school. They may be able to help determine whether anything has been uploaded to social media.

You also don’t want your kid to have any classes with these boys and they should have different lunch periods.

2. Tell the coach. He has a problem on his team and needs to know.

3. Tell the parents. I like the idea of a group email to all of them. You shouldn’t have to send 14 separate emails.

4. Help for your son: therapist to process the incident and confirm it was not his fault. Also, to increase confidence so he learns that these guys are not his friends and that he should not aspire to be friends with him.

Good luck and please keep us posted. Your kid sounds awesome and he does not need to hang out with these jerks.

This is unnecessary and very likely impossible.

Restraining order

At that point it’s easier to switch schools.

Only 5 of the kids go to the same school as DS. He has his own friends at school outside these boys.

But these boys (soccer boys) are of a higher social status and could make DS life hell if the wish. He knows that.

When will this social status crap end. They already made his life miserable. He needs to make friends with the football, hockey and lacrosse players if your concern is them bullying him. Soccer isn’t exactly known for, well, anything in the US except children’s activities. Maybe a new sport would help.

Oh, he is in track too. He’s a so-so soccer player on a so-so team but he’s very talented as a long distance runner. Obviously also not a super respected sport, but he truly excels.

This is such a weird comment.

+1
OP I’m beginning to think you’re a troll or a bored teenager obsessed with social status. If you are not, then please stop trying to decide what’s respected or not, what’s where in a social hierarchy, etc. It’s not clear if your son plays hs soccer or just club. Regardless he should drop both since he doesn’t sound great and his team is not adding anything to his life. Instead put him in hs cross country (same season as soccer anyways), indoor and outdoor track.

I also suspect OP is a troll. Don't most soccer leagues end the season in May?

I suspect your not very bright. I think you and PP are the trolls. Can’t anyone just come on here and ask for support or advice without everyone trying to be a modern Sherlock Holmes and find flaws and pick it apart. Even if soccer ended in May who gives a F? My kids play on teams that ended in May and they all still get together over the summer as a team for things like this. Honestly, you can really see the adults here who probably spawned the very same kinds of kids who do stuff like this to others.

But they had practice yesterday

This does seem suspect. All of the kids are done, except the ones going to championships. This means there’s a very narrow set of kids this could be. OP if your son is on the team I’m guessing he’s on, that culture is highly toxic.

There are summer rec leagues, summer skills camps, etc.

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Tell the parents. I would even consider getting your kid a therapist if he falls apart over you telling. He needs to understand how serious this is and if that boy doesn't have any consequences next time he could end up killing someone. Yes, kids have died from too much melatonin. I think it was younger kids, but this is serious and cannot be ignored. Your son also needs to learn that his health and safety matter more than fitting in. If he doesn't learn this lesson, he will be prey for frat boys hazing and doing other things. It's hard to stand up for justice as parents and as kids, but this is truly disturbing and cannot be ignored.

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Anonymous wrote:Melatonin is not dangerous at all.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102933012/melatonin-poisoning-kids-sleep-aid-overdose

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Anonymous wrote:Melatonin is not dangerous at all.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102933012/melatonin-poisoning-kids-sleep-aid-overdose

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katiecamero/melatonin-overdoses-in-children

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Anonymous wrote:Tell the parents. I would even consider getting your kid a therapist if he falls apart over you telling. He needs to understand how serious this is and if that boy doesn't have any consequences next time he could end up killing someone. Yes, kids have died from too much melatonin. I think it was younger kids, but this is serious and cannot be ignored. Your son also needs to learn that his health and safety matter more than fitting in. If he doesn't learn this lesson, he will be prey for frat boys hazing and doing other things. It's hard to stand up for justice as parents and as kids, but this is truly disturbing and cannot be ignored.

"There has never been a case reported of anyone dying from too much melatonin, or even becoming seriously ill, so no, you cannot really overdose in the fatal sense."

https://pcsifl.com/can-you-overdose-on-melatonin/

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Anonymous wrote:Melatonin is not dangerous at all.

https://www.npr.org/2022/06/03/1102933012/melatonin-poisoning-kids-sleep-aid-overdose

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katiecamero/melatonin-overdoses-in-children

Sorry I keep posting, but ignorance needs to be addressed:

https://www.medicalrepublic.com.au/melatonin-warning-after-two-children-die/73663