Woodward HS boundary study - BCC, Blair, Einstein, WJ, Kennedy, Northwood, Wheaton, Whitman impacts

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward had a great reputation before, it will be a brand new school and will have a great reputation again

WJ reputation will change. Woodward has to build it's reputation from scratch.

No, it doesn't. Woodward had an excellent reputation before, and will start with that same excellent reputation. That plus the brand new facility will make it an excellent school (both of mine graduated from an extremely overcrowded WJ, and I wish it had been open for them).

I am sure the new Woodward will be a fine school, but I can't imagine there are many people who will remember or care about the reputation of the former version of Woodward, which closed in 1987. It will be essentially a brand new school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

But conflating systemic racism with accusations of individual racism is part of our white christian nationalist, MAGA playbook! Don't step on our culture war! We have elections to win and judges to appoint!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward had a great reputation before, it will be a brand new school and will have a great reputation again

WJ reputation will change. Woodward has to build it's reputation from scratch.

No, it doesn't. Woodward had an excellent reputation before, and will start with that same excellent reputation. That plus the brand new facility will make it an excellent school (both of mine graduated from an extremely overcrowded WJ, and I wish it had been open for them).

I am sure the new Woodward will be a fine school, but I can't imagine there are many people who will remember or care about the reputation of the former version of Woodward, which closed in 1987. It will be essentially a brand new school.

Yes, Woodward had an excellent reputation. I'm sure the new school will be held in similarly high regard because it's the newest old W.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward had a great reputation before, it will be a brand new school and will have a great reputation again

WJ reputation will change. Woodward has to build it's reputation from scratch.

No, it doesn't. Woodward had an excellent reputation before, and will start with that same excellent reputation. That plus the brand new facility will make it an excellent school (both of mine graduated from an extremely overcrowded WJ, and I wish it had been open for them).

I am sure the new Woodward will be a fine school, but I can't imagine there are many people who will remember or care about the reputation of the former version of Woodward, which closed in 1987. It will be essentially a brand new school.

Yes, Woodward had an excellent reputation. I'm sure the new school will be held in similarly high regard because it's the newest old W.

What if they give it a new name, and the new name doesn't start with W? For example, North Bethesda High School or Old Georgetown Road High School? Wall Local Park High School would be ok, though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward had a great reputation before, it will be a brand new school and will have a great reputation again

WJ reputation will change. Woodward has to build it's reputation from scratch.

No, it doesn't. Woodward had an excellent reputation before, and will start with that same excellent reputation. That plus the brand new facility will make it an excellent school (both of mine graduated from an extremely overcrowded WJ, and I wish it had been open for them).

I don't think reputation of a closed HS in 70s has any relevance. It will a brand new school with zero reputation in start. It will have to earn it's reputation for better or worse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

The Montgomery County school boundaries are not drawn to “include segregation” and the big report they did a few years found it would be difficult to have more diverse schools without busing, which is why that whole project died with a whimper. The main problem is zoning and not allowing more housing types in the most desirable areas. The other problem is that developers don’t build many family-sized units where multifamily housing is allowed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward had a great reputation before, it will be a brand new school and will have a great reputation again

WJ reputation will change. Woodward has to build it's reputation from scratch.

No, it doesn't. Woodward had an excellent reputation before, and will start with that same excellent reputation. That plus the brand new facility will make it an excellent school (both of mine graduated from an extremely overcrowded WJ, and I wish it had been open for them).

I don't think reputation of a closed HS in 70s has any relevance. It will a brand new school with zero reputation in start. It will have to earn it's reputation for better or worse.

You must be new here.

Moco is a very provincial place. Half of these people form all their opinions about everything based on how it was 76, or 86, or sometimes 96.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

The Montgomery County school boundaries are not drawn to “include segregation” and the big report they did a few years found it would be difficult to have more diverse schools without busing, which is why that whole project died with a whimper. The main problem is zoning and not allowing more housing types in the most desirable areas. The other problem is that developers don’t build many family-sized units where multifamily housing is allowed.

They are not drawn that way, but they did used to be drawn that way.

We have busing now. We bus over 100,000 kids every school day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

The Montgomery County school boundaries are not drawn to “include segregation” and the big report they did a few years found it would be difficult to have more diverse schools without busing, which is why that whole project died with a whimper. The main problem is zoning and not allowing more housing types in the most desirable areas. The other problem is that developers don’t build many family-sized units where multifamily housing is allowed.

They are not drawn that way, but they did used to be drawn that way.

We have busing now. We bus over 100,000 kids every school day.

Come on. Only a small fraction of those 100,000 are bussed for diversity reasons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

The Montgomery County school boundaries are not drawn to “include segregation” and the big report they did a few years found it would be difficult to have more diverse schools without busing, which is why that whole project died with a whimper. The main problem is zoning and not allowing more housing types in the most desirable areas. The other problem is that developers don’t build many family-sized units where multifamily housing is allowed.

They are not drawn that way, but they did used to be drawn that way.

We have busing now. We bus over 100,000 kids every school day.

Come on. Only a small fraction of those 100,000 are bussed for diversity reasons.

A school bus ride is a school bus ride.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

The Montgomery County school boundaries are not drawn to “include segregation” and the big report they did a few years found it would be difficult to have more diverse schools without busing, which is why that whole project died with a whimper. The main problem is zoning and not allowing more housing types in the most desirable areas. The other problem is that developers don’t build many family-sized units where multifamily housing is allowed.

They are not drawn that way, but they did used to be drawn that way.

We have busing now. We bus over 100,000 kids every school day.

Come on. Only a small fraction of those 100,000 are bussed for diversity reasons.

A school bus ride is a school bus ride.

That's deep

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward had a great reputation before, it will be a brand new school and will have a great reputation again

WJ reputation will change. Woodward has to build it's reputation from scratch.

No, it doesn't. Woodward had an excellent reputation before, and will start with that same excellent reputation. That plus the brand new facility will make it an excellent school (both of mine graduated from an extremely overcrowded WJ, and I wish it had been open for them).

I don't think reputation of a closed HS in 70s has any relevance. It will a brand new school with zero reputation in start. It will have to earn it's reputation for better or worse.

You must be new here.

Moco is a very provincial place. Half of these people form all their opinions about everything based on how it was 76, or 86, or sometimes 96.

Who are "these people"? Three quarters of MoCo residents are from other states or countries. They don't know anything about Woodward in the 70s.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Woodward had a great reputation before, it will be a brand new school and will have a great reputation again

WJ reputation will change. Woodward has to build it's reputation from scratch.

No, it doesn't. Woodward had an excellent reputation before, and will start with that same excellent reputation. That plus the brand new facility will make it an excellent school (both of mine graduated from an extremely overcrowded WJ, and I wish it had been open for them).

I don't think reputation of a closed HS in 70s has any relevance. It will a brand new school with zero reputation in start. It will have to earn it's reputation for better or worse.

You must be new here.

Moco is a very provincial place. Half of these people form all their opinions about everything based on how it was 76, or 86, or sometimes 96.

Most people are new here. The population in 1976 was less than 600,000 and a lot of those people died or moved away. They should name it for someone who had a great impact on schools, like Jill Ortman Fouse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How much price in WJ may go down due to boundary change? 10% , 20% ??

I don't care much about demography of schools changing but I have enough stress in my life to not add possibility of 25% decline after buying a house.

This is what structural racism looks like. “I’m not a racist but I don’t want my home value to go down if those kids are in my school.”

Are you out of your mind? There is nothing racist about not wanting to lose 25% of biggest purchase of your life.

Not the PP, but their comment was about structural racism, not individual racism. Structural racism in this case is a school zoning map that has traditionally been designed to preserve segregation. If that zoning is disrupted and integration ensues, then housing prices will drop.

If both residential zoning and school boundaries had included integration from the beginning, there would not have been an artificially inflated "zone" of high-priced segregated communities.

The Montgomery County school boundaries are not drawn to “include segregation” and the big report they did a few years found it would be difficult to have more diverse schools without busing, which is why that whole project died with a whimper. The main problem is zoning and not allowing more housing types in the most desirable areas. The other problem is that developers don’t build many family-sized units where multifamily housing is allowed.

They are not drawn that way, but they did used to be drawn that way.

Decades ago they were drawn that way. None of the public officials who drew them that way still work here. Move on.