The Last of Us - HBO TV show (With game spoilers)

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Anonymous wrote:Was Ellie supposed to give penicillin shot right into the injury spot?

So someone attacked me earlier for nitpicking, but I'm a gonna nitpick. Eliie is a crack shot, can easily wrangle a horse, etc., but she never got training in how to inject medicine such as antibiotics? I'd think that would be FEDRA 101. I actually don't really mind the Ellie heroics. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that.

But - where was the entire rest of this colony when David was burning down the lodge? And yeah, these people couldn't find anywhere else to settle (or does cold kill/inhibit Cordyceps)?

And there's only one episode left?! Remember when television had 13 or even up to 20 episodes a season?

I like this series and I like Pascal and Ramsey. The hug and "baby girl" at the end were genuinely moving, but yeah, I have some issues.

I was thinking about this and I believe they were in the town. the place with the fire was a lodge in the forest surrounded by snow, it wasn't in the town where they all met up / ate and sat passively together. Remember they are a particularly passive bunch.

It was the place in town where they had their meetings and ate their meals. That religious sign was on the wall.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Joel had half of his hit points left and took out 4 grown ass men, thats how you know its a video game adaptation.

But remember what he and Tommy were talking about - all those terrible things they did, killing people to survive - he's an expert at killing. Those clowns hunting him were well, just clowns without a clue.

Yeah this episode made it crystal clear that Joel hadn't just like killed people in self defense during the hard years with Tommy and Tess. He has 100% tortured people before. That knee cap thing was very specific. I didn't find it too much of a stretch that he could take out four starving guys one at a time. Felt like a video game but in a cool way.

Taking four men out when you’ve had no real food or minimal liquid for days, were unconscious for days, had a close to mortal wound on your torso, which is needed for walking, stabbing, pulling maps out, etc - no way. Bodies don’t just pop back like that. He may have had more energy than when he was unconscious, but he’d have no real energy to do all this.

It's not a big deal in game, you just press the up arrow and find a first aid kit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Ellie supposed to give penicillin shot right into the injury spot?

So someone attacked me earlier for nitpicking, but I'm a gonna nitpick. Eliie is a crack shot, can easily wrangle a horse, etc., but she never got training in how to inject medicine such as antibiotics? I'd think that would be FEDRA 101. I actually don't really mind the Ellie heroics. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that.

But - where was the entire rest of this colony when David was burning down the lodge? And yeah, these people couldn't find anywhere else to settle (or does cold kill/inhibit Cordyceps)?

And there's only one episode left?! Remember when television had 13 or even up to 20 episodes a season?

I like this series and I like Pascal and Ramsey. The hug and "baby girl" at the end were genuinely moving, but yeah, I have some issues.

I was thinking about this and I believe they were in the town. the place with the fire was a lodge in the forest surrounded by snow, it wasn't in the town where they all met up / ate and sat passively together. Remember they are a particularly passive bunch.

It was the place in town where they had their meetings and ate their meals. That religious sign was on the wall.

But when Ellie escapes into the snow and Joel finds her, there are trees, not buildings - that's not the town or the street we saw the religious leader and James exit onto after the last meeting.

[Anonymous]

As someone who played the game (well, who watched her DH play the game) and who loves the story, I was *thrilled* to see Troy Baker get such a large role in this episode, grisly end and all. Now Ashley Johnson just needs to show up, and all will be right with the world.

(Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey are terrific in their respective roles, but I have a soft spot for the leads from the game)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Ellie supposed to give penicillin shot right into the injury spot?

So someone attacked me earlier for nitpicking, but I'm a gonna nitpick. Eliie is a crack shot, can easily wrangle a horse, etc., but she never got training in how to inject medicine such as antibiotics? I'd think that would be FEDRA 101. I actually don't really mind the Ellie heroics. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that.

But - where was the entire rest of this colony when David was burning down the lodge? And yeah, these people couldn't find anywhere else to settle (or does cold kill/inhibit Cordyceps)?

And there's only one episode left?! Remember when television had 13 or even up to 20 episodes a season?

I like this series and I like Pascal and Ramsey. The hug and "baby girl" at the end were genuinely moving, but yeah, I have some issues.

I was thinking about this and I believe they were in the town. the place with the fire was a lodge in the forest surrounded by snow, it wasn't in the town where they all met up / ate and sat passively together. Remember they are a particularly passive bunch.

It was the place in town where they had their meetings and ate their meals. That religious sign was on the wall.

But when Ellie escapes into the snow and Joel finds her, there are trees, not buildings - that's not the town or the street we saw the religious leader and James exit onto after the last meeting.

All I know is that the place Ellie set on fire was the lodge where the whole group was eating earlier in the episode. It was a lodge/resort - remember when Joel was torturing the guy for the location and he said it wasn't a real town, it was a resort - Silver Lake. But by the time Ellie escapes the cage/butcher room it ends up being only her and David. I can buy that this group lives elsewhere on the resort property, but I don't buy that none of them were around or noticed their gathering place burning up. Just sayin'.

[Anonymous]

Did the preacher molest the girl whose dad died?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did the preacher molest the girl whose dad died?

Probably, he was an evil person who discovered that he could embrace his violent, evil desires in the post-cordycep world and people would follow him anyway because they were so desperate for protection and leadership.

I like the contrast of the preacher to Nick Offerman's character in that episode. Both harbored these very anti-social beliefs prior to the cordyceps, and the collapse of society allowed them to indulge those beliefs. But where Offerman withdrew into his own bubble, the preacher acted out his worst instincts on others. And also, where Offerman's character winds up being saved by love and meaning, the preacher goes down a path devoid of either and winds up in the bases possible situation -- eating other people, abusing his followers, raping children.

It makes you wonder what it would take to save that preacher from himself, or if anything could. What makes Offerman's character redeemable to such a high degree, but the preacher not so much? And where on that spectrum is Joel? Ellie? Tess? What would it take to push them one way or another? Or are they simple more inherently good than the preacher, more save-able?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did the preacher molest the girl whose dad died?

He was a rapist, so yes, probably. That would explain also why so many of the women were so subdued.

I knew as soon as I saw that actor's face that he was going to be the epitome of evil because those are the roles he always plays.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Ellie supposed to give penicillin shot right into the injury spot?

So someone attacked me earlier for nitpicking, but I'm a gonna nitpick. Eliie is a crack shot, can easily wrangle a horse, etc., but she never got training in how to inject medicine such as antibiotics? I'd think that would be FEDRA 101. I actually don't really mind the Ellie heroics. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that.

But - where was the entire rest of this colony when David was burning down the lodge? And yeah, these people couldn't find anywhere else to settle (or does cold kill/inhibit Cordyceps)?

And there's only one episode left?! Remember when television had 13 or even up to 20 episodes a season?

I like this series and I like Pascal and Ramsey. The hug and "baby girl" at the end were genuinely moving, but yeah, I have some issues.

I was thinking about this and I believe they were in the town. the place with the fire was a lodge in the forest surrounded by snow, it wasn't in the town where they all met up / ate and sat passively together. Remember they are a particularly passive bunch.

It was the place in town where they had their meetings and ate their meals. That religious sign was on the wall.

+1
And the dead bodies were hung in the "meat room," ready to be eaten.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Ellie supposed to give penicillin shot right into the injury spot?

So someone attacked me earlier for nitpicking, but I'm a gonna nitpick. Eliie is a crack shot, can easily wrangle a horse, etc., but she never got training in how to inject medicine such as antibiotics? I'd think that would be FEDRA 101. I actually don't really mind the Ellie heroics. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that.

But - where was the entire rest of this colony when David was burning down the lodge? And yeah, these people couldn't find anywhere else to settle (or does cold kill/inhibit Cordyceps)?

And there's only one episode left?! Remember when television had 13 or even up to 20 episodes a season?

I like this series and I like Pascal and Ramsey. The hug and "baby girl" at the end were genuinely moving, but yeah, I have some issues.

I was thinking about this and I believe they were in the town. the place with the fire was a lodge in the forest surrounded by snow, it wasn't in the town where they all met up / ate and sat passively together. Remember they are a particularly passive bunch.

It was the place in town where they had their meetings and ate their meals. That religious sign was on the wall.

But when Ellie escapes into the snow and Joel finds her, there are trees, not buildings - that's not the town or the street we saw the religious leader and James exit onto after the last meeting.

DP. Probably the rear of the building, that didn't face the street. Just go with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:As someone who played the game (well, who watched her DH play the game) and who loves the story, I was *thrilled* to see Troy Baker get such a large role in this episode, grisly end and all. Now Ashley Johnson just needs to show up, and all will be right with the world.

(Pedro Pascal and Bella Ramsey are terrific in their respective roles, but I have a soft spot for the leads from the game)

Wait - I just looked him up. Did he play Joel in the game? Very cool! Kind of makes me wonder why he didn't play Joel in this show - even though I do love Pedro Pascal.

[Anonymous]

Bring back the mushroom zombies!!

[Anonymous]

It's been mentioned several times that Joel and Tommy had done "awful" things to people in the past - but didn't *everyone* do awful things in order to survive? It seems like if you didn't do what you had to, you'd wind up either under someone else's control or dead. I guess I don't really consider killing bad people to be doing anything particularly awful. Or maybe one of you has more detail that I don't know anything about?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Was Ellie supposed to give penicillin shot right into the injury spot?

So someone attacked me earlier for nitpicking, but I'm a gonna nitpick. Eliie is a crack shot, can easily wrangle a horse, etc., but she never got training in how to inject medicine such as antibiotics? I'd think that would be FEDRA 101. I actually don't really mind the Ellie heroics. I'm willing to suspend disbelief for that.

But - where was the entire rest of this colony when David was burning down the lodge? And yeah, these people couldn't find anywhere else to settle (or does cold kill/inhibit Cordyceps)?

And there's only one episode left?! Remember when television had 13 or even up to 20 episodes a season?

I like this series and I like Pascal and Ramsey. The hug and "baby girl" at the end were genuinely moving, but yeah, I have some issues.

I believe the cordyceps can't survive below a certain temperature - that's why the scientist in the first episode was saying that as the earth gets hotter, it will become possible for cordyceps to thrive. So I guess I'd rather take my chances in a snowy climate where there's at least no risk of the fungus/zombies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joel had half of his hit points left and took out 4 grown ass men, thats how you know its a video game adaptation.

But remember what he and Tommy were talking about - all those terrible things they did, killing people to survive - he's an expert at killing. Those clowns hunting him were well, just clowns without a clue.

Yeah this episode made it crystal clear that Joel hadn't just like killed people in self defense during the hard years with Tommy and Tess. He has 100% tortured people before. That knee cap thing was very specific. I didn't find it too much of a stretch that he could take out four starving guys one at a time. Felt like a video game but in a cool way.

Taking four men out when you’ve had no real food or minimal liquid for days, were unconscious for days, had a close to mortal wound on your torso, which is needed for walking, stabbing, pulling maps out, etc - no way. Bodies don’t just pop back like that. He may have had more energy than when he was unconscious, but he’d have no real energy to do all this.

He is Pedro Pascal and he can do whatever he wants. He is indomitable. Oh, and hot.