Maureen Dowd column on Landon

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:[let's not forget...
In 2006, Landon School alumni were also tied to a scandal involving the Duke University men's lacrosse team and a stripper. At the time, five students from the Landon School were on the Duke lacrosse team.]

Uh...weren't they all acquitted? Why is this so important to not forget?

They were acquitted of rape. They were not acquitted of hiring two strippers. Hiring strippers is behavior that is consistent with a culture of dehumanizing women.

The woman they were accused of raping is now being accused of murder herself. The AG has been fired, if not disbsarred. The students were declared innocent, not just "not guilty" but innocent. That is unusual. If the charge you are making is that they hired a stripper, you'd better be prepared to put anyone (male of female) who hires a stripper in the dock (fine by me--i'm a fundamentalist.) When the power of the state is arrayed against you on false charges--the power of the state with all that entails--I'd say you were more sinned against then sinning. hey--that's just me. But Alan Descewitz is very eloquent on this point.

I'm not saying they committed a crime by hiring strippers. I'm saying they demean women by hiring them as strippers. Just like they demean them by assigning "points" for engaging young women in certain sex acts. Imagine the implication of what you're saying--it's not a crime, so butt out? Would you prefer Landon's motto be: Demeaning women, but not criminally (Oops, except for that 2010 incident).

I'd say after you've been out of high school that long, you can't blame it on high scbool.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:[let's not forget...
In 2006, Landon School alumni were also tied to a scandal involving the Duke University men's lacrosse team and a stripper. At the time, five students from the Landon School were on the Duke lacrosse team.]

Uh...weren't they all acquitted? Why is this so important to not forget?

They were acquitted of rape. They were not acquitted of hiring two strippers. Hiring strippers is behavior that is consistent with a culture of dehumanizing women.

The woman they were accused of raping is now being accused of murder herself. The AG has been fired, if not disbsarred. The students were declared innocent, not just "not guilty" but innocent. That is unusual. If the charge you are making is that they hired a stripper, you'd better be prepared to put anyone (male of female) who hires a stripper in the dock (fine by me--i'm a fundamentalist.) When the power of the state is arrayed against you on false charges--the power of the state with all that entails--I'd say you were more sinned against then sinning. hey--that's just me. But Alan Descewitz is very eloquent on this point.

I'm not saying they committed a crime by hiring strippers. I'm saying they demean women by hiring them as strippers. Just like they demean them by assigning "points" for engaging young women in certain sex acts. Imagine the implication of what you're saying--it's not a crime, so butt out? Would you prefer Landon's motto be: Demeaning women, but not criminally (Oops, except for that 2010 incident).

I'd say after you've been out of high school that long, you can't blame it on high scbool.

"that long"??? They went from Landon to Duke. They were, therefore, only 1-4 years, "out of high school." That's like saying the bullet isn't to blame once it's left the gun.

[Anonymous]

Get over it!!! Washington DC is the only place inthe world where people ae fixated on where you went to high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do expect from a school whose most famous alum is Maury Povich? They're breeding a lot of rocket scientists over there.

There are a number of exceptionally distinguished individuals who graduated from this school and are not listed in Wikipedia. A lot of us know who they are. Do you think we are going to "out" them while this witch hunt is going on?

I would totally watch a TV series that "outed" the vast universe of secret Landon luminaries who are, even as we speak, hiding their Landon diplomas and buying a lot of blue and white athletic garb to try to pass as STA grads. Nis it true that Obama went to Landon but he's hiding it? Is thismthe REAL reason there is controversy over whether he was born in Hawaii? Does anyone remember a skinny kid named Barry playing jv lax for Landon in 1976?

I think this means you are seriously in need of a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Seems to me that the problem is the middle school head. You have a great lower school....heard nothing but wonderful things about it. Then it seems that things get rocky in MS.....sounds like they need to fire the MS head, and get a new one. A woman? Then, start over and move on.

You really have it in for the Middle School Head, whoever he is.

[Anonymous]

seriously, why would anyone defend landon on this forum, they will just be bashed. I don't mind though because they deserve it.

[jsteele]

Please do not mention names in this forum unless you are also prepared to provide your own name (in a verifiable manner). In particular, do not mention the names of children. The idiot who just listed the names of several school kids should really be ashamed of her/his self. How would you feel if one of those were your children?

[Anonymous]

Thank you for doing that. I am the poster that reported the post.

[Anonymous]

If the child of a public figure was one of the kids involved, as that now-deleted post suggested, that actually is relevant (though his name is not). To the extent all of the boys needed to receive the same punishment, the question whether the school might have been afraid to punish too severely a boy with important parents is an interesting question to consider.

[Anonymous]

Posting somone's father's name is the same thing as posting the kids' name. What's it like to live with out a brain or a sense of shame?

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote: Posting somone's father's name is the same thing as posting the kids' name. What's it like to live with out a brain or a sense of shame?

I've deleted that post as well. It was from the previous name lister also.

Now, here is a message to the poster with the IP address 68.34.227.243. No more names. If any more names are posted here, I will do my best to discover and publish your name. I will put it in giant letters at the top of every page. Is that understood?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the families of these boys? The mothers take top (such as heads of auctions) leadership spots at other schools. Plus, they run the Azalea Fest. and Greens Sales at Landon.What's the buzz at the girls schools? Are they going to continue to let these moms run things? Business as usual?

Imagine! Donating all that time to raise scholarship money. Don't these women care what kind of example they set?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What about the families of these boys? The mothers take top (such as heads of auctions) leadership spots at other schools. Plus, they run the Azalea Fest. and Greens Sales at Landon.What's the buzz at the girls schools? Are they going to continue to let these moms run things? Business as usual?

Imagine! Donating all that time to raise scholarship money. Don't these women care what kind of example they set?

I have a backyard garden. A plant came up, so I watered it. Sometimes I wonder if I am watering and fertilizing a weed. Do you think Landon Mothers have similar anxiety?

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote: Posting somone's father's name is the same thing as posting the kids' name. What's it like to live with out a brain or a sense of shame?

I've deleted that post as well. It was from the previous name lister also.

Now, here is a message to the poster with the IP address 68.34.227.243. No more names. If any more names are posted here, I will do my best to discover and publish your name. I will put it in giant leaders at the top of every page. Is that understood?

I'm a bit bothered by this. Can you clarify the policy on posting names in general? I know I have seen school personnel called out by name. I certainly recognize the problem calling out minor students by name and acknowledge that simply naming their parents amounts to the same thing. But what is the policy? Who is off limits and who is fair game?

[jsteele]

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I'm a bit bothered by this. Can you clarify the policy on posting names in general? I know I have seen school personnel called out by name. I certainly recognize the problem calling out minor students by name and acknowledge that simply naming their parents amounts to the same thing. But what is the policy? Who is off limits and who is fair game?

Generally, if you are posting as anonymous, then you should not be naming names. If you don't want your name mentioned, why do you think another person wants their's mentioned? Exceptions are made for well-known public figures. For instance, how could you discuss the Obama's choice of schools if you didn't name the Obamas? Also, those who have been publicly charged with crimes such as the Sidwell teacher (once he was indicted). Children charged with crimes are not publicly named, so you can't name them. If you feel that you have a valid reason for naming someone who does not fit one of these exceptions, than simply include your name. Then you and the named person can hash it out between yourselves.