Power Outage Montogomery County

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

The approach to land/take-off at the MoCo airpark goes directly over these power lines. Look at Google Maps, you'll see that

This airpark either needs a control tower or will need to close. Too many homes and critical infrastructure surround the air park.

None of which was there when the Airpark was built 60+ years ago.

At what point do you place any blame on the county zoning commission, developers, or homeowners, for choosing to zone/build/live in the flight path of an airport?

Oh, never?

Ok.

Perhaps county should put lights on the towers. Obviously, the pilot didn't see them.

If he didn’t notice that he was only flying about 100ft off the ground, or pay attention to the air traffic controller controller telling him he was too low, what makes you think lights would have made any difference?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

The airpark should be closed permanently.

A couple we know recently decided to buy a home near the airpark. They agree it needs to be shut down permanently, because of the airplane noise .

Wow, you all sound like idiots. Small planes should be banned? Why? The airpark should be closed? Should cars of about the same weight (most of them) be banned and highways closed? Because, compared to aviation, the roads are a slaughterhouse of people getting killed (which didn't even happen here).

You friends, the couple who were dumb enough to buy a home near an airport when they don't like airplane noise-"they agree" the airport which has been there long before their house was built and brings in millions of $ of revenue to the surrounding area every year should be shut down? Really? Well I guess that settles it. It's like people who buy new homes in recently developed farm lands them complain of the animal smells of the neighboring farms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

Your cars should be banned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

The approach to land/take-off at the MoCo airpark goes directly over these power lines. Look at Google Maps, you'll see that

This airpark either needs a control tower or will need to close. Too many homes and critical infrastructure surround the air park.

Why does GAI need a control tower? As it was, air traffic control told the pilot he was coming in too low.

Needs a control tower? You are very naive and know nothing about aviation if you think a control tower makes things safer. You don't really understand what a controller does either. Frederick County Municipal Airport is the second busiest airport in Maryland in terms of operations and, before it got a control tower, it was a lot safer and no one died. My plane is based there and I can tell you this first hand. After they got a control tower, 4 people died and the controller in the tower was a big contributing factor to the accident.

Sorry to say but this was all on the pilot. He had what we pilots like to call, gethomeitis which can be fatal. He never should have attempted that landing at that time, in those conditions, at that airport but instead, diverted to somewhere with better visibility which would be very inconvenient. In hindsight, a lot more convenient than the outcome from his bad choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

The airpark should be closed permanently.

A couple we know recently decided to buy a home near the airpark. They agree it needs to be shut down permanently, because of the airplane noise .

Wow, you all sound like idiots. Small planes should be banned? Why? The airpark should be closed? Should cars of about the same weight (most of them) be banned and highways closed? Because, compared to aviation, the roads are a slaughterhouse of people getting killed (which didn't even happen here).

You friends, the couple who were dumb enough to buy a home near an airport when they don't like airplane noise-"they agree" the airport which has been there long before their house was built and brings in millions of $ of revenue to the surrounding area every year should be shut down? Really? Well I guess that settles it. It's like people who buy new homes in recently developed farm lands them complain of the animal smells of the neighboring farms.

I’m pretty sure the post you were replying to was illustrating the same point, just less explicitly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

The airpark should be closed permanently.

A couple we know recently decided to buy a home near the airpark. They agree it needs to be shut down permanently, because of the airplane noise .

Wow, you all sound like idiots. Small planes should be banned? Why? The airpark should be closed? Should cars of about the same weight (most of them) be banned and highways closed? Because, compared to aviation, the roads are a slaughterhouse of people getting killed (which didn't even happen here).

You friends, the couple who were dumb enough to buy a home near an airport when they don't like airplane noise-"they agree" the airport which has been there long before their house was built and brings in millions of $ of revenue to the surrounding area every year should be shut down? Really? Well I guess that settles it. It's like people who buy new homes in recently developed farm lands them complain of the animal smells of the neighboring farms.

Any risk is unacceptable. -DCUM

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

The airpark should be closed permanently.

A couple we know recently decided to buy a home near the airpark. They agree it needs to be shut down permanently, because of the airplane noise .

Wow, you all sound like idiots. Small planes should be banned? Why? The airpark should be closed? Should cars of about the same weight (most of them) be banned and highways closed? Because, compared to aviation, the roads are a slaughterhouse of people getting killed (which didn't even happen here).

You friends, the couple who were dumb enough to buy a home near an airport when they don't like airplane noise-"they agree" the airport which has been there long before their house was built and brings in millions of $ of revenue to the surrounding area every year should be shut down? Really? Well I guess that settles it. It's like people who buy new homes in recently developed farm lands them complain of the animal smells of the neighboring farms.

+1

Idiot is an understatement. They buy next to an airport and then complain that there’s an airport and plane noises!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

The approach to land/take-off at the MoCo airpark goes directly over these power lines. Look at Google Maps, you'll see that

This airpark either needs a control tower or will need to close. Too many homes and critical infrastructure surround the air park.

Why does GAI need a control tower? As it was, air traffic control told the pilot he was coming in too low.

Needs a control tower? You are very naive and know nothing about aviation if you think a control tower makes things safer. You don't really understand what a controller does either. Frederick County Municipal Airport is the second busiest airport in Maryland in terms of operations and, before it got a control tower, it was a lot safer and no one died. My plane is based there and I can tell you this first hand. After they got a control tower, 4 people died and the controller in the tower was a big contributing factor to the accident.

Sorry to say but this was all on the pilot. He had what we pilots like to call, gethomeitis which can be fatal. He never should have attempted that landing at that time, in those conditions, at that airport but instead, diverted to somewhere with better visibility which would be very inconvenient. In hindsight, a lot more convenient than the outcome from his bad choice.

Yes. He should have diverted. It sounds like he was flying in conditions above his capabilities, and should have gone to a different airport and moved the plane “home” later. It’s inconvenient and can be expensive, but it’s always better to be safe than sorry.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So when are they shutting down the power to do a switchover?

I don't think they need to do a switchover.

Then why did they close the schools? A previous poster said they were closed because they had to do a switchover, but that's not true.

[Anonymous]

What value does this airport bring to the county? Genuinely asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What value does this airport bring to the county? Genuinely asking.

A bunch of d bags can fly their toy planes in and out of there. It keeps the d bags happy, I guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

The approach to land/take-off at the MoCo airpark goes directly over these power lines. Look at Google Maps, you'll see that

This airpark either needs a control tower or will need to close. Too many homes and critical infrastructure surround the air park.

Why does GAI need a control tower? As it was, air traffic control told the pilot he was coming in too low.

Needs a control tower? You are very naive and know nothing about aviation if you think a control tower makes things safer. You don't really understand what a controller does either. Frederick County Municipal Airport is the second busiest airport in Maryland in terms of operations and, before it got a control tower, it was a lot safer and no one died. My plane is based there and I can tell you this first hand. After they got a control tower, 4 people died and the controller in the tower was a big contributing factor to the accident.

Sorry to say but this was all on the pilot. He had what we pilots like to call, gethomeitis which can be fatal. He never should have attempted that landing at that time, in those conditions, at that airport but instead, diverted to somewhere with better visibility which would be very inconvenient. In hindsight, a lot more convenient than the outcome from his bad choice.

Yes. He should have diverted. It sounds like he was flying in conditions above his capabilities, and should have gone to a different airport and moved the plane “home” later. It’s inconvenient and can be expensive, but it’s always better to be safe than sorry.

Is there another airport nearby? Did he have enough fuel to fly to another location? It was foggy on Sunday in the whole region.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How close was the tower to the air park? Is the FAA going to review to ensure it’s not an airspace obstruction? Also how much benefit does the county really get from having or permitting the air park? Seems like a huge liability now……

The approach to land/take-off at the MoCo airpark goes directly over these power lines. Look at Google Maps, you'll see that

This airpark either needs a control tower or will need to close. Too many homes and critical infrastructure surround the air park.

Why does GAI need a control tower? As it was, air traffic control told the pilot he was coming in too low.

Needs a control tower? You are very naive and know nothing about aviation if you think a control tower makes things safer. You don't really understand what a controller does either. Frederick County Municipal Airport is the second busiest airport in Maryland in terms of operations and, before it got a control tower, it was a lot safer and no one died. My plane is based there and I can tell you this first hand. After they got a control tower, 4 people died and the controller in the tower was a big contributing factor to the accident.

Sorry to say but this was all on the pilot. He had what we pilots like to call, gethomeitis which can be fatal. He never should have attempted that landing at that time, in those conditions, at that airport but instead, diverted to somewhere with better visibility which would be very inconvenient. In hindsight, a lot more convenient than the outcome from his bad choice.

Yes. He should have diverted. It sounds like he was flying in conditions above his capabilities, and should have gone to a different airport and moved the plane “home” later. It’s inconvenient and can be expensive, but it’s always better to be safe than sorry.

Is there another airport nearby? Did he have enough fuel to fly to another location? It was foggy on Sunday in the whole region.

There is an airfield in Laytonville (http://www.laytonsvilleairport.com/). It's private though, so it likely costs more money to land there.

The fog was still high at 5:30. So he flew through the fog, but it wasn't foggy below 150ft or so. I assume he chose to fly below the fog. Thinking he'd come in at 200ft, but descended too quickly. He had a window that he was shooting for and missed. Diverting to Davis would have been a better option if visibility was truly that poor.

There are red flashing lights on the towers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t this the same airfield where that plane crashed into a house a few years back and killed a mother and her kid?

These planes should be banned!

The airpark should be closed permanently.

A couple we know recently decided to buy a home near the airpark. They agree it needs to be shut down permanently, because of the airplane noise .

Wow, you all sound like idiots. Small planes should be banned? Why? The airpark should be closed? Should cars of about the same weight (most of them) be banned and highways closed? Because, compared to aviation, the roads are a slaughterhouse of people getting killed (which didn't even happen here).

You friends, the couple who were dumb enough to buy a home near an airport when they don't like airplane noise-"they agree" the airport which has been there long before their house was built and brings in millions of $ of revenue to the surrounding area every year should be shut down? Really? Well I guess that settles it. It's like people who buy new homes in recently developed farm lands them complain of the animal smells of the neighboring farms.

Any risk is unacceptable. -DCUM

Well, i am not saying that. I own 3 cars after all.

But I would never own one of these small planes. So I’m ok banning those.

[Anonymous]

There are red flashing lights on the towers.

Thank you. Whoever suggested that the County should just put lights on the towers is an idiot. Of course anything this tall has lights on it already and that’s a federal regulation.