Why is Blake Lively so overrated?

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Anonymous wrote: Nah, she complained that he inappropriately called her sexy and he produced a text she sent him in which she made wardrobe choices based on what she said made her look sexier. Her side edited texts or placed them out of context to deliberately change their meaning. She complained that the intimacy coordinator wasn’t involved enough and he produced a text where she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator at all pre production.

This doesn't make sense to me.

She didn't allege "the intimacy coordinator isn't involved enough." She had specific complaints about the IC not being consulted or present on set for specific scenes that were not written to have nudity or intimacy in them but that Baldoni changed to be nude or more intimate the day of filming. That has nothing to do with whether she met with the IC before filming even started. I also dont' really know how common it is for actors to meet with the IC in pre-production. Is that typical? Typical for a movie like this? For all I know Lively was reasonably annoyed to be asked to participate in pre-production meetings like that. I don't have enough context.

Also the allegations about when he called her sex seem to be talking about different things. In her complaint she alleges that he made comment about her off-set attire and specifically asked her to either take off or open up a coat she was wearing so that he could see her top underneath, and declared it "hot." She says that she told him that this was inappropriate and he said, "sorry, it's sexy -- is that better?" The texts he's produced relate to a discussion of her character's wardrobe. Totally different context.

Not saying her version of events is correct, but nothing he has produced actually refutes the allegations in her complaint. It's more like he's trying to muddy the waters by saying "well see she didn't want to meet with the IC in this other situations so she can't complain about the IC not being on set for a nude scene months later" or "see she used the word sexy in a text conversation with me about clothes so she can't complain about me using that word to refer to her clothes in a totally different situation." It's not persuasive. It would be like if I said my coworker punched me in the head in the conference room and then my coworker produced a video of us two years prior in a bar joking about violence in a movie. Like.... so?

I don’t agree with your reasoning. You cant say you find the word sexy objectionable and then use it freely. That’s evidence you don’t actually find it objectionable. You can’t claim to have deep concerns about the involvement of the intimacy coordinator and planning of intimacy scenes while passing on all preproduction meetings. Actions actually have meaning.

In another note, Jair watched a televised interview clip where Blake talked about giving her one year old a birthday cake shaped like breasts.

Your logic makes no sense.

My husband often pats my butt playfully at home. But if I worked with him and he did it at the office, I'd be unhappy about it.

At work, I might say "this project is really beautiful, I love it." But that doesn't mean that if I go to the bar with my colleagues later, it's okay for one of them to come up to me and say "you are really beautiful, I love you" even though we are using many of he same words.

I might joke about how my infant is obsessed with my boobs in a conversation about breastfeeding, but that doesn't mean that anyone who ever wants to come up and discuss my boobs with me can do so.

+1 A baby views breasts as a source of food ie non sexual, my male coworker does not and if he's walking in on me breastfeeding I am allowed to be uncomfortable since it's not a picnic.

No, but if you brought your baby to work meetings and breastfed him on a regular basis, people might conclude you were comfortable breastfeeding in public. And I say that as someone who was comfortable breastfeeding in public.

I decide when and where to breastfeed. Thats it.

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Anonymous wrote: Nah, she complained that he inappropriately called her sexy and he produced a text she sent him in which she made wardrobe choices based on what she said made her look sexier. Her side edited texts or placed them out of context to deliberately change their meaning. She complained that the intimacy coordinator wasn’t involved enough and he produced a text where she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator at all pre production.

This doesn't make sense to me.

She didn't allege "the intimacy coordinator isn't involved enough." She had specific complaints about the IC not being consulted or present on set for specific scenes that were not written to have nudity or intimacy in them but that Baldoni changed to be nude or more intimate the day of filming. That has nothing to do with whether she met with the IC before filming even started. I also dont' really know how common it is for actors to meet with the IC in pre-production. Is that typical? Typical for a movie like this? For all I know Lively was reasonably annoyed to be asked to participate in pre-production meetings like that. I don't have enough context.

Also the allegations about when he called her sex seem to be talking about different things. In her complaint she alleges that he made comment about her off-set attire and specifically asked her to either take off or open up a coat she was wearing so that he could see her top underneath, and declared it "hot." She says that she told him that this was inappropriate and he said, "sorry, it's sexy -- is that better?" The texts he's produced relate to a discussion of her character's wardrobe. Totally different context.

Not saying her version of events is correct, but nothing he has produced actually refutes the allegations in her complaint. It's more like he's trying to muddy the waters by saying "well see she didn't want to meet with the IC in this other situations so she can't complain about the IC not being on set for a nude scene months later" or "see she used the word sexy in a text conversation with me about clothes so she can't complain about me using that word to refer to her clothes in a totally different situation." It's not persuasive. It would be like if I said my coworker punched me in the head in the conference room and then my coworker produced a video of us two years prior in a bar joking about violence in a movie. Like.... so?

I don’t agree with your reasoning. You cant say you find the word sexy objectionable and then use it freely. That’s evidence you don’t actually find it objectionable. You can’t claim to have deep concerns about the involvement of the intimacy coordinator and planning of intimacy scenes while passing on all preproduction meetings. Actions actually have meaning.

In another note, Jair watched a televised interview clip where Blake talked about giving her one year old a birthday cake shaped like breasts.

Your logic makes no sense.

My husband often pats my butt playfully at home. But if I worked with him and he did it at the office, I'd be unhappy about it.

At work, I might say "this project is really beautiful, I love it." But that doesn't mean that if I go to the bar with my colleagues later, it's okay for one of them to come up to me and say "you are really beautiful, I love you" even though we are using many of he same words.

I might joke about how my infant is obsessed with my boobs in a conversation about breastfeeding, but that doesn't mean that anyone who ever wants to come up and discuss my boobs with me can do so.

+1 A baby views breasts as a source of food ie non sexual, my male coworker does not and if he's walking in on me breastfeeding I am allowed to be uncomfortable since it's not a picnic.

No, but if you brought your baby to work meetings and breastfed him on a regular basis, people might conclude you were comfortable breastfeeding in public. And I say that as someone who was comfortable breastfeeding in public.

I decide when and where to breastfeed. Thats it.

Again, that isn't actually responsive to what I said. I was very comfortable breastfeeding in public. Some people are. And the way that is communicated is by repeatedly breastfeeding in public.

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Anonymous wrote: Nah, she complained that he inappropriately called her sexy and he produced a text she sent him in which she made wardrobe choices based on what she said made her look sexier. Her side edited texts or placed them out of context to deliberately change their meaning. She complained that the intimacy coordinator wasn’t involved enough and he produced a text where she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator at all pre production.

This doesn't make sense to me.

She didn't allege "the intimacy coordinator isn't involved enough." She had specific complaints about the IC not being consulted or present on set for specific scenes that were not written to have nudity or intimacy in them but that Baldoni changed to be nude or more intimate the day of filming. That has nothing to do with whether she met with the IC before filming even started. I also dont' really know how common it is for actors to meet with the IC in pre-production. Is that typical? Typical for a movie like this? For all I know Lively was reasonably annoyed to be asked to participate in pre-production meetings like that. I don't have enough context.

Also the allegations about when he called her sex seem to be talking about different things. In her complaint she alleges that he made comment about her off-set attire and specifically asked her to either take off or open up a coat she was wearing so that he could see her top underneath, and declared it "hot." She says that she told him that this was inappropriate and he said, "sorry, it's sexy -- is that better?" The texts he's produced relate to a discussion of her character's wardrobe. Totally different context.

Not saying her version of events is correct, but nothing he has produced actually refutes the allegations in her complaint. It's more like he's trying to muddy the waters by saying "well see she didn't want to meet with the IC in this other situations so she can't complain about the IC not being on set for a nude scene months later" or "see she used the word sexy in a text conversation with me about clothes so she can't complain about me using that word to refer to her clothes in a totally different situation." It's not persuasive. It would be like if I said my coworker punched me in the head in the conference room and then my coworker produced a video of us two years prior in a bar joking about violence in a movie. Like.... so?

I don’t agree with your reasoning. You cant say you find the word sexy objectionable and then use it freely. That’s evidence you don’t actually find it objectionable. You can’t claim to have deep concerns about the involvement of the intimacy coordinator and planning of intimacy scenes while passing on all preproduction meetings. Actions actually have meaning.

In another note, Jair watched a televised interview clip where Blake talked about giving her one year old a birthday cake shaped like breasts.

Your logic makes no sense.

My husband often pats my butt playfully at home. But if I worked with him and he did it at the office, I'd be unhappy about it.

At work, I might say "this project is really beautiful, I love it." But that doesn't mean that if I go to the bar with my colleagues later, it's okay for one of them to come up to me and say "you are really beautiful, I love you" even though we are using many of he same words.

I might joke about how my infant is obsessed with my boobs in a conversation about breastfeeding, but that doesn't mean that anyone who ever wants to come up and discuss my boobs with me can do so.

Your logic is off

If you went on national television and spontaneously offered up to the host that you were making a breast shaped cake for your child, I think it's fair to assume you are comfortable talking about breasts.

If you sent a text to your co worker and said, I am going to wear this suit to the presentation because I look beautiful in it," it would not be inappropriate for the coworker you texted to tell you later that you looked beautiful in the suit.

What your husband playing with your butt at home or at the office has to do with any of this is beyond me.

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This is not a good comparison to the Lively/Baldoni situation because when Lively used the word "sexy" she was referring to a costume that her character was going to wear. She wasn't talking about herself. She was saying she thought the character would look or feel sexy in the costume (the fact that she was talking about a beanie is hilarious and weird but the point still stands).

This is VERY different than Baldoni making comments about clothes Lively was wearing, as herself, off the set.

The character's costume is a professional decision and the use of the word "sexy" in that setting is professional -- Lively thought that costume would convey a desired type of style for the character in that particular scene, and contribute to the story they were telling.

Baldoni just wanted to tell Lively that her boobs looked hot in her top. It's completely different.

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Anonymous wrote: Nah, she complained that he inappropriately called her sexy and he produced a text she sent him in which she made wardrobe choices based on what she said made her look sexier. Her side edited texts or placed them out of context to deliberately change their meaning. She complained that the intimacy coordinator wasn’t involved enough and he produced a text where she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator at all pre production.

This doesn't make sense to me.

She didn't allege "the intimacy coordinator isn't involved enough." She had specific complaints about the IC not being consulted or present on set for specific scenes that were not written to have nudity or intimacy in them but that Baldoni changed to be nude or more intimate the day of filming. That has nothing to do with whether she met with the IC before filming even started. I also dont' really know how common it is for actors to meet with the IC in pre-production. Is that typical? Typical for a movie like this? For all I know Lively was reasonably annoyed to be asked to participate in pre-production meetings like that. I don't have enough context.

Also the allegations about when he called her sex seem to be talking about different things. In her complaint she alleges that he made comment about her off-set attire and specifically asked her to either take off or open up a coat she was wearing so that he could see her top underneath, and declared it "hot." She says that she told him that this was inappropriate and he said, "sorry, it's sexy -- is that better?" The texts he's produced relate to a discussion of her character's wardrobe. Totally different context.

Not saying her version of events is correct, but nothing he has produced actually refutes the allegations in her complaint. It's more like he's trying to muddy the waters by saying "well see she didn't want to meet with the IC in this other situations so she can't complain about the IC not being on set for a nude scene months later" or "see she used the word sexy in a text conversation with me about clothes so she can't complain about me using that word to refer to her clothes in a totally different situation." It's not persuasive. It would be like if I said my coworker punched me in the head in the conference room and then my coworker produced a video of us two years prior in a bar joking about violence in a movie. Like.... so?

I don’t agree with your reasoning. You cant say you find the word sexy objectionable and then use it freely. That’s evidence you don’t actually find it objectionable. You can’t claim to have deep concerns about the involvement of the intimacy coordinator and planning of intimacy scenes while passing on all preproduction meetings. Actions actually have meaning.

In another note, Jair watched a televised interview clip where Blake talked about giving her one year old a birthday cake shaped like breasts.

Your logic makes no sense.

My husband often pats my butt playfully at home. But if I worked with him and he did it at the office, I'd be unhappy about it.

At work, I might say "this project is really beautiful, I love it." But that doesn't mean that if I go to the bar with my colleagues later, it's okay for one of them to come up to me and say "you are really beautiful, I love you" even though we are using many of he same words.

I might joke about how my infant is obsessed with my boobs in a conversation about breastfeeding, but that doesn't mean that anyone who ever wants to come up and discuss my boobs with me can do so.

+1 A baby views breasts as a source of food ie non sexual, my male coworker does not and if he's walking in on me breastfeeding I am allowed to be uncomfortable since it's not a picnic.

No, but if you brought your baby to work meetings and breastfed him on a regular basis, people might conclude you were comfortable breastfeeding in public. And I say that as someone who was comfortable breastfeeding in public.

I decide when and where to breastfeed. Thats it.

Again, that isn't actually responsive to what I said. I was very comfortable breastfeeding in public. Some people are. And the way that is communicated is by repeatedly breastfeeding in public.

It doesn't sound like she was in public though, she was in her trailer. I could be wrong, but I thought the whole point of having a trailer was to gain some privacy so you can change outfits etc.

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Anonymous wrote: Nah, she complained that he inappropriately called her sexy and he produced a text she sent him in which she made wardrobe choices based on what she said made her look sexier. Her side edited texts or placed them out of context to deliberately change their meaning. She complained that the intimacy coordinator wasn’t involved enough and he produced a text where she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator at all pre production.

This doesn't make sense to me.

She didn't allege "the intimacy coordinator isn't involved enough." She had specific complaints about the IC not being consulted or present on set for specific scenes that were not written to have nudity or intimacy in them but that Baldoni changed to be nude or more intimate the day of filming. That has nothing to do with whether she met with the IC before filming even started. I also dont' really know how common it is for actors to meet with the IC in pre-production. Is that typical? Typical for a movie like this? For all I know Lively was reasonably annoyed to be asked to participate in pre-production meetings like that. I don't have enough context.

Also the allegations about when he called her sex seem to be talking about different things. In her complaint she alleges that he made comment about her off-set attire and specifically asked her to either take off or open up a coat she was wearing so that he could see her top underneath, and declared it "hot." She says that she told him that this was inappropriate and he said, "sorry, it's sexy -- is that better?" The texts he's produced relate to a discussion of her character's wardrobe. Totally different context.

Not saying her version of events is correct, but nothing he has produced actually refutes the allegations in her complaint. It's more like he's trying to muddy the waters by saying "well see she didn't want to meet with the IC in this other situations so she can't complain about the IC not being on set for a nude scene months later" or "see she used the word sexy in a text conversation with me about clothes so she can't complain about me using that word to refer to her clothes in a totally different situation." It's not persuasive. It would be like if I said my coworker punched me in the head in the conference room and then my coworker produced a video of us two years prior in a bar joking about violence in a movie. Like.... so?

I don’t agree with your reasoning. You cant say you find the word sexy objectionable and then use it freely. That’s evidence you don’t actually find it objectionable. You can’t claim to have deep concerns about the involvement of the intimacy coordinator and planning of intimacy scenes while passing on all preproduction meetings. Actions actually have meaning.

In another note, Jair watched a televised interview clip where Blake talked about giving her one year old a birthday cake shaped like breasts.

Your logic makes no sense.

My husband often pats my butt playfully at home. But if I worked with him and he did it at the office, I'd be unhappy about it.

At work, I might say "this project is really beautiful, I love it." But that doesn't mean that if I go to the bar with my colleagues later, it's okay for one of them to come up to me and say "you are really beautiful, I love you" even though we are using many of he same words.

I might joke about how my infant is obsessed with my boobs in a conversation about breastfeeding, but that doesn't mean that anyone who ever wants to come up and discuss my boobs with me can do so.

Your logic is off

If you went on national television and spontaneously offered up to the host that you were making a breast shaped cake for your child, I think it's fair to assume you are comfortable talking about breasts.

If you sent a text to your co worker and said, I am going to wear this suit to the presentation because I look beautiful in it," it would not be inappropriate for the coworker you texted to tell you later that you looked beautiful in the suit.

What your husband playing with your butt at home or at the office has to do with any of this is beyond me.

Specifically regarding the bolded:

This is not a good comparison to the Lively/Baldoni situation because when Lively used the word "sexy" she was referring to a costume that her character was going to wear. She wasn't talking about herself. She was saying she thought the character would look or feel sexy in the costume (the fact that she was talking about a beanie is hilarious and weird but the point still stands).

This is VERY different than Baldoni making comments about clothes Lively was wearing, as herself, off the set.

The character's costume is a professional decision and the use of the word "sexy" in that setting is professional -- Lively thought that costume would convey a desired type of style for the character in that particular scene, and contribute to the story they were telling.

Baldoni just wanted to tell Lively that her boobs looked hot in her top. It's completely different.

This is the most convoluted argument you've made, and that's saying something.

[Anonymous]

This is the actual allegation about Baldoni from Lively's complaint. It's more involved than him just saying she looked sexy:

"60. On another day, Ms. Lively wore a low-cut dress to facilitate breast feeding, but had it covered up with a coat. When the jacket briefly popped open at one point to reveal the dress, Mr. Baldoni commented about how much he liked her outfit, which flustered Ms. Lively. Later that day, Mr. Baldoni pressured Ms. Lively (who was in her pre-approved wardrobe) to remove her coat in front of the crew and multiple background actors in a packed bar. He said that he wanted to see her “onesie” under the coat because it was zipped low to reveal her lace bra. Consistent with past practice, he said, “I think you look sexy” in a tone that made her feel ogled and exposed. With other female cast members present, she said, “that’s not what I’m going for.” He bristled and replied, “I’m sorry, hot.” Deeply uncomfortable, Ms. Lively said, “not that either.” Mr. Baldoni, responded sarcastically, “I guess I missed the HR meeting,” and walked away. Another woman on the production spoke to Ms. Lively afterward to offer empathy and to share her own similar experiences with Mr. Baldoni commenting about her in sexual terms."

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Anonymous wrote: Nah, she complained that he inappropriately called her sexy and he produced a text she sent him in which she made wardrobe choices based on what she said made her look sexier. Her side edited texts or placed them out of context to deliberately change their meaning. She complained that the intimacy coordinator wasn’t involved enough and he produced a text where she refused to meet with the intimacy coordinator at all pre production.

This doesn't make sense to me.

She didn't allege "the intimacy coordinator isn't involved enough." She had specific complaints about the IC not being consulted or present on set for specific scenes that were not written to have nudity or intimacy in them but that Baldoni changed to be nude or more intimate the day of filming. That has nothing to do with whether she met with the IC before filming even started. I also dont' really know how common it is for actors to meet with the IC in pre-production. Is that typical? Typical for a movie like this? For all I know Lively was reasonably annoyed to be asked to participate in pre-production meetings like that. I don't have enough context.

Also the allegations about when he called her sex seem to be talking about different things. In her complaint she alleges that he made comment about her off-set attire and specifically asked her to either take off or open up a coat she was wearing so that he could see her top underneath, and declared it "hot." She says that she told him that this was inappropriate and he said, "sorry, it's sexy -- is that better?" The texts he's produced relate to a discussion of her character's wardrobe. Totally different context.

Not saying her version of events is correct, but nothing he has produced actually refutes the allegations in her complaint. It's more like he's trying to muddy the waters by saying "well see she didn't want to meet with the IC in this other situations so she can't complain about the IC not being on set for a nude scene months later" or "see she used the word sexy in a text conversation with me about clothes so she can't complain about me using that word to refer to her clothes in a totally different situation." It's not persuasive. It would be like if I said my coworker punched me in the head in the conference room and then my coworker produced a video of us two years prior in a bar joking about violence in a movie. Like.... so?

I don’t agree with your reasoning. You cant say you find the word sexy objectionable and then use it freely. That’s evidence you don’t actually find it objectionable. You can’t claim to have deep concerns about the involvement of the intimacy coordinator and planning of intimacy scenes while passing on all preproduction meetings. Actions actually have meaning.

In another note, Jair watched a televised interview clip where Blake talked about giving her one year old a birthday cake shaped like breasts.

Your logic makes no sense.

My husband often pats my butt playfully at home. But if I worked with him and he did it at the office, I'd be unhappy about it.

At work, I might say "this project is really beautiful, I love it." But that doesn't mean that if I go to the bar with my colleagues later, it's okay for one of them to come up to me and say "you are really beautiful, I love you" even though we are using many of he same words.

I might joke about how my infant is obsessed with my boobs in a conversation about breastfeeding, but that doesn't mean that anyone who ever wants to come up and discuss my boobs with me can do so.

+1 A baby views breasts as a source of food ie non sexual, my male coworker does not and if he's walking in on me breastfeeding I am allowed to be uncomfortable since it's not a picnic.

No, but if you brought your baby to work meetings and breastfed him on a regular basis, people might conclude you were comfortable breastfeeding in public. And I say that as someone who was comfortable breastfeeding in public.

I decide when and where to breastfeed. Thats it.

Again, that isn't actually responsive to what I said. I was very comfortable breastfeeding in public. Some people are. And the way that is communicated is by repeatedly breastfeeding in public.

Blake takes issue with Baldoni barging in on her breastfeeding in her trailer. That’s a private, not public, space.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the actual allegation about Baldoni from Lively's complaint. It's more involved than him just saying she looked sexy:

"60. On another day, Ms. Lively wore a low-cut dress to facilitate breast feeding, but had it covered up with a coat. When the jacket briefly popped open at one point to reveal the dress, Mr. Baldoni commented about how much he liked her outfit, which flustered Ms. Lively. Later that day, Mr. Baldoni pressured Ms. Lively (who was in her pre-approved wardrobe) to remove her coat in front of the crew and multiple background actors in a packed bar. He said that he wanted to see her “onesie” under the coat because it was zipped low to reveal her lace bra. Consistent with past practice, he said, “I think you look sexy” in a tone that made her feel ogled and exposed. With other female cast members present, she said, “that’s not what I’m going for.” He bristled and replied, “I’m sorry, hot.” Deeply uncomfortable, Ms. Lively said, “not that either.” Mr. Baldoni, responded sarcastically, “I guess I missed the HR meeting,” and walked away. Another woman on the production spoke to Ms. Lively afterward to offer empathy and to share her own similar experiences with Mr. Baldoni commenting about her in sexual terms."

There's so much of this I don't understand. Why were they in a packed bar? How does exposing your bra strap facilitate breast feeding? What the hell is a onsie, it's described as a dress? How does a jacket pop open? Whomever said this Complaint is well written is on drugs.

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Anonymous wrote:This is the actual allegation about Baldoni from Lively's complaint. It's more involved than him just saying she looked sexy:

"60. On another day, Ms. Lively wore a low-cut dress to facilitate breast feeding, but had it covered up with a coat. When the jacket briefly popped open at one point to reveal the dress, Mr. Baldoni commented about how much he liked her outfit, which flustered Ms. Lively. Later that day, Mr. Baldoni pressured Ms. Lively (who was in her pre-approved wardrobe) to remove her coat in front of the crew and multiple background actors in a packed bar. He said that he wanted to see her “onesie” under the coat because it was zipped low to reveal her lace bra. Consistent with past practice, he said, “I think you look sexy” in a tone that made her feel ogled and exposed. With other female cast members present, she said, “that’s not what I’m going for.” He bristled and replied, “I’m sorry, hot.” Deeply uncomfortable, Ms. Lively said, “not that either.” Mr. Baldoni, responded sarcastically, “I guess I missed the HR meeting,” and walked away. Another woman on the production spoke to Ms. Lively afterward to offer empathy and to share her own similar experiences with Mr. Baldoni commenting about her in sexual terms."

There's so much of this I don't understand. Why were they in a packed bar? How does exposing your bra strap facilitate breast feeding? What the hell is a onsie, it's described as a dress? How does a jacket pop open? Whomever said this Complaint is well written is on drugs.

I'm not sure why you can't follow. Made sense to me. And you don't know what a onesie is?

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So I think we all know that sometimes it’s appropriate to talk about sex and other things and sometimes not. I wish people would stop rehashing that as I think most of us are on the same page and can reasonably understand that.

Most of us are not going to be kissed at work by coworkers or have simulated sex scenes with them, we all understand that that’s the deal with being on a Hollywood set like this.

The challenge that I have is that Blake has clearly manipulated situations in the production of this film and that has been clear. There is a letter Jamie Heath sent that said they were adding Blake as executive producer under duress. That she was threatening them and that they wrote a letter supporting her PGA, but that he was not actually in support of it. That to me is manipulation by her.

The other thing is that the director is supposed to have 10 weeks with editing where no one else touches the film, Blake violated that by bullying her way into the editing bay. They had agreed that she and her editors would be there for two days, they were there for 10 days.

The head screenwriter admitted that she had only found out on the red carpet that Ryan Reynolds had written scenes for the movie. She is interviewed where she thought certain things were improvised and she didn’t realize he had written them. To not apprise the head screenwriter of this, I would call that being manipulative.

So yes, I could see a situation where she took something from a conversation that was OK at the time or what most people would consider normal and then exacerbated it for this lawsuit.

I am absolutely not saying that’s what she did or I believe that to be true, I’m just saying, in weighing both sides of this, that she has a strong case, but that she has shown that she can be manipulative. So I’m trying to keep an open mind here.

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yes, I could see a situation where she took something from a conversation that was OK at the time or what most people would consider normal and then exacerbated it for this lawsuit.

This times a thousand.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would expect someone to jokingly mock me if I said I’d never watched porn. You don’t deserve to have an environment that caters to your every whim or is free from any discomfort. There are men out there (another example is Dax Shepard) who are really trying to get men to be more vulnerable
and to openly talk about their struggles. They want men to feel less shame in general, so they lead by example and openly talk about their own stuff. That’s why JB wrote Man Enough and had that podcast. A part of treating an addiction is getting it out in the open. And many men struggle with porn addiction. Now we’re telling them if they talk about it it’s not just shameful but actually harassment.

She may have some legitimate claims but when you throw every little petty thing at someone it weakens the legitimate claims.

OMG. Do you understand the difference between willingly listening to a podcast and talking about your addiction at work? Should he bring up his porn addiction at Christmas dinner? Should he bring it up when checking out at the grocery store? No!

But, he's free to talk about it in group therapy or if a friend indicates s/he is willing to listen.

I can't believe that you think BL or any woman should be mocked for saying they haven't watched porn or want to talk about something like that.

This is absolutely why we can't have nice things.

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Anonymous wrote:So I think we all know that sometimes it’s appropriate to talk about sex and other things and sometimes not. I wish people would stop rehashing that as I think most of us are on the same page and can reasonably understand that.

Most of us are not going to be kissed at work by coworkers or have simulated sex scenes with them, we all understand that that’s the deal with being on a Hollywood set like this.

The challenge that I have is that Blake has clearly manipulated situations in the production of this film and that has been clear. There is a letter Jamie Heath sent that said they were adding Blake as executive producer under duress. That she was threatening them and that they wrote a letter supporting her PGA, but that he was not actually in support of it. That to me is manipulation by her.

The other thing is that the director is supposed to have 10 weeks with editing where no one else touches the film, Blake violated that by bullying her way into the editing bay. They had agreed that she and her editors would be there for two days, they were there for 10 days.

The head screenwriter admitted that she had only found out on the red carpet that Ryan Reynolds had written scenes for the movie. She is interviewed where she thought certain things were improvised and she didn’t realize he had written them. To not apprise the head screenwriter of this, I would call that being manipulative.

So yes, I could see a situation where she took something from a conversation that was OK at the time or what most people would consider normal and then exacerbated it for this lawsuit.

I am absolutely not saying that’s what she did or I believe that to be true, I’m just saying, in weighing both sides of this, that she has a strong case, but that she has shown that she can be manipulative. So I’m trying to keep an open mind here.

Maybe her want of control is because she felt harassed? I know if I feel harassed by men I either try to take control and fight for what I want, or I hide.

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Maybe her want of control is because she felt harassed? I know if I feel harassed by men I either try to take control and fight for what I want, or I hide.

This has long been an issue with her -- going back to Gossip Girl.

Here is a woman who has pretty much had an issue with at least one actor or actress on set with respect to most of her past work, including with other women.

I really think is nothing more than she doesn't like her public image so she has decided to see if playing victim works to generate sympathy. And clearly with some of you, it does.

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Anonymous wrote:So I think we all know that sometimes it’s appropriate to talk about sex and other things and sometimes not. I wish people would stop rehashing that as I think most of us are on the same page and can reasonably understand that.

Most of us are not going to be kissed at work by coworkers or have simulated sex scenes with them, we all understand that that’s the deal with being on a Hollywood set like this.

The challenge that I have is that Blake has clearly manipulated situations in the production of this film and that has been clear. There is a letter Jamie Heath sent that said they were adding Blake as executive producer under duress. That she was threatening them and that they wrote a letter supporting her PGA, but that he was not actually in support of it. That to me is manipulation by her.

The other thing is that the director is supposed to have 10 weeks with editing where no one else touches the film, Blake violated that by bullying her way into the editing bay. They had agreed that she and her editors would be there for two days, they were there for 10 days.

The head screenwriter admitted that she had only found out on the red carpet that Ryan Reynolds had written scenes for the movie. She is interviewed where she thought certain things were improvised and she didn’t realize he had written them. To not apprise the head screenwriter of this, I would call that being manipulative.

So yes, I could see a situation where she took something from a conversation that was OK at the time or what most people would consider normal and then exacerbated it for this lawsuit.

I am absolutely not saying that’s what she did or I believe that to be true, I’m just saying, in weighing both sides of this, that she has a strong case, but that she has shown that she can be manipulative. So I’m trying to keep an open mind here.

Maybe her want of control is because she felt harassed? I know if I feel harassed by men I either try to take control and fight for what I want, or I hide.

Maybe. It’s not a great way to handle things, but I guess she felt like it was her right since there was harassment and inappropriate behavior on set.

I think that creative control is also about money. Executive producer title means she nets a ton more money from this movie. She got a $3 million salary and being an executive producer means you get a nice cut of the profits. There’s no way this wasn’t a financial decision. And I guess you could argue she deserves it for being sexually harassed. But it wasn’t a great way of going to go about things. Disrespectful all the other folks were working on the movie, including the screenwriter.

I’m starting to think that she was probably sexually harassed, but I think they are both a-holes and I don’t really care if either one of their reputation recovers from this.