CORONAVIRUS/COVID-19 NEW MEGA THREAD

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Anonymous wrote:I’m pinning my hopes on rapid vaccine development.

There’s no such thing.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriaforster/2020/03/17/first-person-injected-with-trial-coronavirus-vaccine-in-seattle/#59e144f02583

Sometimes it helps to read all the way to the end of an article,

“ Although the design and production of the prospective vaccine was incredibly fast, evaluation of it will take considerable time. All of the participants will be followed for 12 months after the second vaccination to collect the data researchers initially need to figure out whether it is safe and effective.”

this is for it to be officially proclaimed effective. if the results seem promising on the ground people will line up for it and nobody will stop them.

This vaccine won't be available for 18 month to 2 years at a bare minimum. The usual timeline is 5+ years. The FDA is not going to skirt the safety issues and they will monitor those getting the vaccine now for a full year.

Yeah right. If a vaccine looks safe and effective, I promise you that Trump is going to find a way to push it through even if it’s dangerous. I’m sure the FDA will push back but he is President and will win. He thought his election hinges on the stock market but at this point it’s pretty much the Coronavirus response. If he hears of a vaccine that looks good, do you really think there won’t be some executive order clearing all the hurdles?

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Anonymous wrote:Sanjay Gupta’s interview on CNN right now is seriously depressing. He was alarmed at footage from SF today, where people are supposed to be sheltering in place but aren’t, and Florida, with all the partying spring breakers. All of the sacrifices that people are making across the country to socially isolate, and these people don’t give a sh!t.

Gupta doesn’t have a lot of optimism today. Me either- I thought the US could do this.

Don’t worry, they’ll do the right thing when they run out of every other choice. It’s the American way.

The problem is our media.

During WWII, during Pearl Harbor, most of the country got behind FDR because the respectable media all did. (Before Pearl Harbor, Lindbergh and other anti-immigration types, and some eugencists, and some actual American Nazis all prevented FDR from entering by supporting the Axis.)

After Pearl Harbor there was a basically unified message from our newspapers and via radio. Not that there wasn't a struggle to control the message, but journalists and everyone saw the Japanese attack as an attack on the US and mostly unified as a country.

Today, our media is fractured, and some media cares more about their party than about the country. Coordinated messaging supporting the president, even as he makes mistakes, has prevented a unified call for social distancing. And the real media is still entrenched in chasing ratings (CNN, MSBC), or bothsidesism (NYT, WaPo).

Gotta fix the media if we want to fix the country. Shrug. We know what we have to do.

The first step would be shut down Twitter

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Anonymous wrote:I was just going back through the original mega Corona thread. Jeez, you guys nailed this. What I want to know is if DCUM knew so early what a serious problem we had on our hands, why didn't the experts? SMH

I was one of the people posting what would happen when others were trying to minimize the whole thing. They called me names and said I was dramatizing and trying to scare people. They said I was “getting off” on wanting people to die. All I wanted was to make people aware.

It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I’m glad we are taking steps to slow the spread now. If we had done even a little a month ago we would be in a better place now but it’s still a lot better than waiting until the hospitals are completely saturated like everyone else is doing.

I also predicted the economy collapse including car sales. In another month you’ll be able to get some sweet no interest car loans if you’re in need. Just because everything is bad right now doesn’t mean people still don’t need to buy cars. I’d say, even if you were thinking about getting one in a year, just get it in the next few months when all the manufacturers put out those no interest loans.

The government is throwing money at this but it’s just not going to work. People aren’t going to fly, rent hotel rooms, or go to casinos so either they need to let some of these companies fail and get bought out by survivors or they are going to have to bail them out multiple times. The cruise ship industry is going to be on hard times for a long time after this. They’re going to need to shrink because I have a feeling they will have a permanent drop in demand even after this is all over.

It’s important to remember, this will come to an end. Next year (if we are super lucky the end of this year but it would need to be a miracle) we will have a vaccine and everything will go back to normal. I don’t know what they will do with all the hundreds of thousands of spare ventilators they’ll make for this outbreak though. Hopefully someone is trying to figure that out because we don’t have enough for the crisis but we will have too many afterwards.

Ah! A fellow obsessive FEARMONGER. Those were the days...

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Is there a reason or tradition why during press conferences, special announcements or updates does Trump always have a crowd behind him?

Is this US normal, have other US presidents done it like this?

It is seeming like all the other leaders are doing it standing alone. I normally don't watch other countries news like this, now I'm really noticing.

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Mario Vargas Llosa, Peruvian author who won the Nobel prize for literature in 2010, said the COVID-19 virus would have been more easily contained in China and around the world if the Chinese people lived in a free society rather than a dictatorship.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nobel-prize-winner-rips-chinese-government-for-response-to-coronavirus

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Anonymous wrote:Is there a reason or tradition why during press conferences, special announcements or updates does Trump always have a crowd behind him?

Is this US normal, have other US presidents done it like this?

It is seeming like all the other leaders are doing it standing alone. I normally don't watch other countries news like this, now I'm really noticing.

Don't know, but in a a lot of state/city press conferences I've seen for coronavirus the governor/mayor has a number of people present.

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Does everyone in the house get it if one perso has it?
I have not heard many firsthand accounts and I wonder if families were spared while one person became ill (not counting asymptomatic carriers)

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Anonymous wrote:Does everyone in the house get it if one perso has it?
I have not heard many firsthand accounts and I wonder if families were spared while one person became ill (not counting asymptomatic carriers)

Mostly yes, everyone gets it. In China and pretty much everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just going back through the original mega Corona thread. Jeez, you guys nailed this. What I want to know is if DCUM knew so early what a serious problem we had on our hands, why didn't the experts? SMH

The issue is the f’ed up Republican government - whose only goal is to destroy our government to cut taxes on the rich — and our broken media which has failed to tell the truth to the American people.

First Amendment is great, but when more than half of your press becomes focused on profit over truth even the first amendment can’t save us.

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Anonymous wrote:Mario Vargas Llosa, Peruvian author who won the Nobel prize for literature in 2010, said the COVID-19 virus would have been more easily contained in China and around the world if the Chinese people lived in a free society rather than a dictatorship.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nobel-prize-winner-rips-chinese-government-for-response-to-coronavirus

True but be careful with Phil Anschutz’s Washington Examiner. Anschutz brags about using it to lie to its “useful idiot” conservative readers.

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Anonymous wrote:Does everyone in the house get it if one perso has it?
I have not heard many firsthand accounts and I wonder if families were spared while one person became ill (not counting asymptomatic carriers)

Mostly yes, everyone gets it. In China and pretty much everywhere.

Totally anecdotal, but a blog by the guy on the first Princess Cruise ship to be affected said it was totally random. He and his wife were quarantined in their tiny stateroom, and he got it, but she did not. Out of their group of four, three got it, but two of them were completely asymptomstic.

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Anonymous wrote:Does everyone in the house get it if one perso has it?
I have not heard many firsthand accounts and I wonder if families were spared while one person became ill (not counting asymptomatic carriers)

Mostly yes, everyone gets it. In China and pretty much everywhere.

Totally anecdotal, but a blog by the guy on the first Princess Cruise ship to be affected said it was totally random. He and his wife were quarantined in their tiny stateroom, and he got it, but she did not. Out of their group of four, three got it, but two of them were completely asymptomstic.

Link?

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Anonymous wrote:I was just going back through the original mega Corona thread. Jeez, you guys nailed this. What I want to know is if DCUM knew so early what a serious problem we had on our hands, why didn't the experts? SMH

LOL. They just parroted what the saw on TV. The Fake cable news gets it right once in a while.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just going back through the original mega Corona thread. Jeez, you guys nailed this. What I want to know is if DCUM knew so early what a serious problem we had on our hands, why didn't the experts? SMH

I was one of the people posting what would happen when others were trying to minimize the whole thing. They called me names and said I was dramatizing and trying to scare people. They said I was “getting off” on wanting people to die. All I wanted was to make people aware.

It’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. I’m glad we are taking steps to slow the spread now. If we had done even a little a month ago we would be in a better place now but it’s still a lot better than waiting until the hospitals are completely saturated like everyone else is doing.

I also predicted the economy collapse including car sales. In another month you’ll be able to get some sweet no interest car loans if you’re in need. Just because everything is bad right now doesn’t mean people still don’t need to buy cars. I’d say, even if you were thinking about getting one in a year, just get it in the next few months when all the manufacturers put out those no interest loans.

The government is throwing money at this but it’s just not going to work. People aren’t going to fly, rent hotel rooms, or go to casinos so either they need to let some of these companies fail and get bought out by survivors or they are going to have to bail them out multiple times. The cruise ship industry is going to be on hard times for a long time after this. They’re going to need to shrink because I have a feeling they will have a permanent drop in demand even after this is all over.

It’s important to remember, this will come to an end. Next year (if we are super lucky the end of this year but it would need to be a miracle) we will have a vaccine and everything will go back to normal. I don’t know what they will do with all the hundreds of thousands of spare ventilators they’ll make for this outbreak though. Hopefully someone is trying to figure that out because we don’t have enough for the crisis but we will have too many afterwards.

Well, you had a 50% chance of getting it right.

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Anonymous wrote:I was just going back through the original mega Corona thread. Jeez, you guys nailed this. What I want to know is if DCUM knew so early what a serious problem we had on our hands, why didn't the experts? SMH

The experts knew. The White House leadership was in denial.