Polls and Lols: A 2020 Master Thread

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It seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance.

This. Hilarious.

Exactly. Mondale had a rally of 100,000 just before his historic loss.

Trump has a solid base of 42 to 44 percent, and this people can't wait to go to their KKK rallies to be their racist selves and dance and be deplorables with the rest of the fanatics.

You think people are telling pollsters they’re voting for Trump when the person on the other line thinks by saying “yes” they’re supporting a KKK affiliated Nazi? You think right wingers are telling “fake news” “Deep State” operatives who they’re voting for when CNN conducts a poll? Nope. These polls are gonna turn out to be off by way more than in 2016.

And yet, they are going to rallies and posting selfies on Facebook. They are using their own names in social media to say the most vile things about Biden.

Trump humpers are not shy.

I’m talking about regular, apolitical people, not diehards. Why would you tell a pollster you’re voting for someone who CNN says is a Nazi? There is a huge incentive for “shy” Trump supporters to lie to pollsters. This is why Trafalgar and Rassmussen factor this in and he’s surging in these polls. And they were right in 2016.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no enthusiasm for Biden and that will be his undoing. When will Dems learn from Obama and nominate a candidate who inspires turnout and not just nominate people who are the “lesser of two evils”?

No one is braving Covid to vote for Biden. You might not even care to return your mail in ballot for a candidate you don’t care about. Trump supporters are the most rabid people in the country; you can’t fight that with a “at least he’s not the other guy...I guess I’ll vote for the Dem” nominee. Turnout >>>> polling. Look at the early voting results for Blacks in Georgia and registered Dems in Dade County, Florida. Dems are freaking out because no one is actually turning out. The Dems are freaking out.

So interesting. Your synopsis has no relationships to facts that show that there is record turnout for Dems across the country.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no enthusiasm for Biden and that will be his undoing. When will Dems learn from Obama and nominate a candidate who inspires turnout and not just nominate people who are the “lesser of two evils”?

No one is braving Covid to vote for Biden. You might not even care to return your mail in ballot for a candidate you don’t care about. Trump supporters are the most rabid people in the country; you can’t fight that with a “at least he’s not the other guy...I guess I’ll vote for the Dem” nominee. Turnout >>>> polling. Look at the early voting results for Blacks in Georgia and registered Dems in Dade County, Florida. Dems are freaking out because no one is actually turning out. The Dems are freaking out.

Record turnout already from Dems across the country.

Before election day. All the Dem votes are already in. Republicans are coming out on election day.

David Axelrod was on CNN the other day looking like his parents just passed away because he was hearing about record Republican turnout in Dade County, where Hillary won.

Trump thinks Minnesota is in play. That should tell you something.

Biden thinks Texas and Georgia are in play. That should tell you something.

+ NC, Iowa, and Arizona. The map is changing. Hopefully this is the year.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no enthusiasm for Biden and that will be his undoing. When will Dems learn from Obama and nominate a candidate who inspires turnout and not just nominate people who are the “lesser of two evils”?

No one is braving Covid to vote for Biden. You might not even care to return your mail in ballot for a candidate you don’t care about. Trump supporters are the most rabid people in the country; you can’t fight that with a “at least he’s not the other guy...I guess I’ll vote for the Dem” nominee. Turnout >>>> polling. Look at the early voting results for Blacks in Georgia and registered Dems in Dade County, Florida. Dems are freaking out because no one is actually turning out. The Dems are freaking out.

Record turnout already from Dems across the country.

Before election day. All the Dem votes are already in. Republicans are coming out on election day.

David Axelrod was on CNN the other day looking like his parents just passed away because he was hearing about record Republican turnout in Dade County, where Hillary won.

Trump thinks Minnesota is in play. That should tell you something.

Trump thinks bleach cures COVID. THAT should tell you something.

He believes in the power of positive thinking. Like some idiot MLMer, he thinks he can "manifest" whatever he wants by speaking magic words.

He might win! The polls don't give him zero chance. But him saying that Minnesota is in play doesn't make it so, unless you also believe that speaking magic words leads to the world serving up whatever you want.

I don’t like Trump, but he isn’t wasting valuable resources on campaigning in Minnesota in the final days unless it was in play. Michael Moore is freaking out about this election and he was 100% right about Trump winning in 2016.

Michael Moore also thought Romney was going to win.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about PA. Those Trump rallies were massive. Is there indeed a large uncounted vote there?

If you read articles about the rallies, you learn that they are sort of like Grateful Dead concerts. There are people who travel around from show to show. Yes, of course locals come out because its always exciting to see a president of the US live and in person, but a few thousand people at a superspreader event is not the same as ensuring the millions of votes needed to win a state or country.

Bernie also had a lot of packed rallies. Biden won the nomination. I think you can read enthusiasm into those rallies, but not necessarily numbers.

Anyway, all we can do now is one last GOVT push, and hope.

No Bernie did not have a “lot” of “packed” rallies, at least by Trump standards. Trump had four rallies yesterday in PA alone. There were 57,000 people at ONE of them.

Bernie had nothing of the sort, ever in his wildest dreams.

57000 people at a rally during a pandemic? Thanks for reminding me that the Republican Party is a death cult.

Do you honestly think Biden could pull 57,000 people at a rally if covid didnt exist and things were normal? Color me skeptical.

Probably. But remember, Biden isn’t a cult leader. Dems don’t need to hear a dear leader speak for validation about our choices. Backing Biden isn’t a lifestyle and we aren’t defensive about backing him. We know he’s a good guy and don’t need to be in a political rally to feel good about supporting him. Unlike Trump voters who need group validation for backing a crook, a liar, a rapist, bigot, white supremicist, tax cheat, etc...

I really love this response.

I know this is about polls, but it seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance. They are literally responding to data with anecdotes.

The polls were not foolproof last time. Trump closed in rapidly at the finish in 2016.

How rapidly can he gain ground when 90 million people have already voted?

No, they didn’t close. Democratic turn out plummeted.

What didn’t close? What are you talking about, other than a county or two in south Florida?

93,131,017 people have already voted.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no enthusiasm for Biden and that will be his undoing. When will Dems learn from Obama and nominate a candidate who inspires turnout and not just nominate people who are the “lesser of two evils”?

No one is braving Covid to vote for Biden. You might not even care to return your mail in ballot for a candidate you don’t care about. Trump supporters are the most rabid people in the country; you can’t fight that with a “at least he’s not the other guy...I guess I’ll vote for the Dem” nominee. Turnout >>>> polling. Look at the early voting results for Blacks in Georgia and registered Dems in Dade County, Florida. Dems are freaking out because no one is actually turning out. The Dems are freaking out.

Record turnout already from Dems across the country.

Before election day. All the Dem votes are already in. Republicans are coming out on election day.

David Axelrod was on CNN the other day looking like his parents just passed away because he was hearing about record Republican turnout in Dade County, where Hillary won.

Trump thinks Minnesota is in play. That should tell you something.

Trump thinks bleach cures COVID. THAT should tell you something.

He believes in the power of positive thinking. Like some idiot MLMer, he thinks he can "manifest" whatever he wants by speaking magic words.

He might win! The polls don't give him zero chance. But him saying that Minnesota is in play doesn't make it so, unless you also believe that speaking magic words leads to the world serving up whatever you want.

I don’t like Trump, but he isn’t wasting valuable resources on campaigning in Minnesota in the final days unless it was in play. Michael Moore is freaking out about this election and he was 100% right about Trump winning in 2016.

Michael Moore is a charlatan who earns a living being hysterical and trying to psych out Democrats. Tune him out.

Trump is wasting valuable resources putting up TV ads in DC, as well. Do you think DC is also in play?

Again: I am FAR from saying that Trump can't win - or even that he can't win Minnesota. But stop searching for meaning in what he says and does - he does these things and says these things because they feed his id. Do you think if he behaved logically or thought about what was best for his reelection chances we'd be here eight months in with no COVID plan and no second stimulus?

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It's weird how Trump supporerts are arguing:
1) Trump supporters are enthusiastic and eagar as shown by massive rally attendance but are afraid to tell anybody how they will vote.
2) Loud, obnoxious Democrats are intimidating Trump supporters and destroying friendships because they believe Trump is uniquely evil but won't vote.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance.

This. Hilarious.

Exactly. Mondale had a rally of 100,000 just before his historic loss.

Trump has a solid base of 42 to 44 percent, and this people can't wait to go to their KKK rallies to be their racist selves and dance and be deplorables with the rest of the fanatics.

You think people are telling pollsters they’re voting for Trump when the person on the other line thinks by saying “yes” they’re supporting a KKK affiliated Nazi? You think right wingers are telling “fake news” “Deep State” operatives who they’re voting for when CNN conducts a poll? Nope. These polls are gonna turn out to be off by way more than in 2016.

And yet, they are going to rallies and posting selfies on Facebook. They are using their own names in social media to say the most vile things about Biden.

Trump humpers are not shy.

I’m talking about regular, apolitical people, not diehards. Why would you tell a pollster you’re voting for someone who CNN says is a Nazi? There is a huge incentive for “shy” Trump supporters to lie to pollsters. This is why Trafalgar and Rassmussen factor this in and he’s surging in these polls. And they were right in 2016.

What did they say in 2018?

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, and I'm "braving Covid" to vote for Biden on election day.

You are, but we’re in DC. The average working and middle class voter in the Milwaukee suburbs is not. Biden voters are anti-Trump voters, not pro Biden. Trump voters are almost cultists in their enthusiasm. Enthusiasm drives turnout and turnout >>> polling.

I bet a sizeable portion of “Biden voters” won’t even bother to return their ballots. People can’t even be bothered to pay their bills by mail anymore. A lot of people who aren’t inside the Beltway or politically astute are just gonna to let their ballots linger. Trump voters won’t.

2018 begs to differ

Trump wasn’t on the ballot in 2018. This is an extremely shallow, celebrity obsessed country. Culture > politics and a lot of people vote for Trump because he’s “the guy on TV.”

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance.

This. Hilarious.

Exactly. Mondale had a rally of 100,000 just before his historic loss.

Trump has a solid base of 42 to 44 percent, and this people can't wait to go to their KKK rallies to be their racist selves and dance and be deplorables with the rest of the fanatics.

You think people are telling pollsters they’re voting for Trump when the person on the other line thinks by saying “yes” they’re supporting a KKK affiliated Nazi? You think right wingers are telling “fake news” “Deep State” operatives who they’re voting for when CNN conducts a poll? Nope. These polls are gonna turn out to be off by way more than in 2016.

And yet, they are going to rallies and posting selfies on Facebook. They are using their own names in social media to say the most vile things about Biden.

Trump humpers are not shy.

I’m talking about regular, apolitical people, not diehards. Why would you tell a pollster you’re voting for someone who CNN says is a Nazi? There is a huge incentive for “shy” Trump supporters to lie to pollsters. This is why Trafalgar and Rassmussen factor this in and he’s surging in these polls. And they were right in 2016.

What did they say in 2018?

Trump wasn’t on the ballot in 2018.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance.

This. Hilarious.

Exactly. Mondale had a rally of 100,000 just before his historic loss.

Trump has a solid base of 42 to 44 percent, and this people can't wait to go to their KKK rallies to be their racist selves and dance and be deplorables with the rest of the fanatics.

You think people are telling pollsters they’re voting for Trump when the person on the other line thinks by saying “yes” they’re supporting a KKK affiliated Nazi? You think right wingers are telling “fake news” “Deep State” operatives who they’re voting for when CNN conducts a poll? Nope. These polls are gonna turn out to be off by way more than in 2016.

And yet, they are going to rallies and posting selfies on Facebook. They are using their own names in social media to say the most vile things about Biden.

Trump humpers are not shy.

I’m talking about regular, apolitical people, not diehards. Why would you tell a pollster you’re voting for someone who CNN says is a Nazi? There is a huge incentive for “shy” Trump supporters to lie to pollsters. This is why Trafalgar and Rassmussen factor this in and he’s surging in these polls. And they were right in 2016.

Derr Derr Uh Huh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is no enthusiasm for Biden and that will be his undoing. When will Dems learn from Obama and nominate a candidate who inspires turnout and not just nominate people who are the “lesser of two evils”?

No one is braving Covid to vote for Biden. You might not even care to return your mail in ballot for a candidate you don’t care about. Trump supporters are the most rabid people in the country; you can’t fight that with a “at least he’s not the other guy...I guess I’ll vote for the Dem” nominee. Turnout >>>> polling. Look at the early voting results for Blacks in Georgia and registered Dems in Dade County, Florida. Dems are freaking out because no one is actually turning out. The Dems are freaking out.

This is absolute BS and wishful thinking on part of the GOP. There is huge excitement for Biden. And you really can’t underestimate the impact of the hatred for trump.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, and I'm "braving Covid" to vote for Biden on election day.

You are, but we’re in DC. The average working and middle class voter in the Milwaukee suburbs is not. Biden voters are anti-Trump voters, not pro Biden. Trump voters are almost cultists in their enthusiasm. Enthusiasm drives turnout and turnout >>> polling.

I bet a sizeable portion of “Biden voters” won’t even bother to return their ballots. People can’t even be bothered to pay their bills by mail anymore. A lot of people who aren’t inside the Beltway or politically astute are just gonna to let their ballots linger. Trump voters won’t.

2018 begs to differ

Trump wasn’t on the ballot in 2018. This is an extremely shallow, celebrity obsessed country. Culture > politics and a lot of people vote for Trump because he’s “the guy on TV.”

The guy on tv turned out to be as evil as King Jeoffrey. Now he is the villain and he is literally getting voted out of office as we speak. More than ever before. He will be the biggest loser of all time. MAGA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is no enthusiasm for Biden and that will be his undoing. When will Dems learn from Obama and nominate a candidate who inspires turnout and not just nominate people who are the “lesser of two evils”?

No one is braving Covid to vote for Biden. You might not even care to return your mail in ballot for a candidate you don’t care about. Trump supporters are the most rabid people in the country; you can’t fight that with a “at least he’s not the other guy...I guess I’ll vote for the Dem” nominee. Turnout >>>> polling. Look at the early voting results for Blacks in Georgia and registered Dems in Dade County, Florida. Dems are freaking out because no one is actually turning out. The Dems are freaking out.

This is absolute BS and wishful thinking on part of the GOP. There is huge excitement for Biden. And you really can’t underestimate the impact of the hatred for trump.

But we can at a minimum, measure it in campaign donations and public support for voters fighting oppression! How much did Biden supporters give stsyinf home and protecting lives while agent orange coughed in covid rallies and pulled in NO money? What a waste of resources for a waste of an empty crapped on suit.