Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
So you would kill a man who was stabbing your wife (after she was killed of course!) but wouldn’t write an obit for her? Something her daughter could read one day?
And I thought Bb caught JR killing his wife, not his wife cheating? Which story is it?
Isn’t it obvious that after everything calmed down, couple days later he found out she was talking to JR?
She died on the 24th, service wasn’t until March 3rd. A lot was discovered in the mean time.
Anonymous wrote:I think the biggest difference between posters here is that people who know BB think he may have done it, but may not have; and people who knew JR and the majority of people on these forums know for a "fact" BB is guilty.
I'm a friend of BB, the one whose posts got deleted a few months ago for mentioning BB's daughters name. I still lurk, just don't post.
I can confirm BB went to McDonald's often, and he was a tech nerd who loved to show off his toys (phones, teslas, etc). He also enjoyed listening and learning about your new gadgetry. As a guy, we just generally like techy stuff.
After CB's death, the entire bedroom had to be rebuilt. To stay busy BB also remodeled his bathroom (I think by himself).
To the best of my understanding he is still getting paid by the IRS and he has taken up a handful of gig jobs to stay busy. The gig jobs also explain the speeding tickets, as one of the jobs was doing uber/lyft, etc. It probably does mean he's under tremendous LEO scrutiny and they are most certainly observing/watching him to lock him up.
The first phone call came from the basement, not the bedroom, and it was the second call where you can hear Joe in the background. I imagine BB asked AP to get the second gun so she could keep it pointed at JR while he administered aid to CB.
CB and BB were in open relationships, I don't know anything about c*cking, but I can confirm for 10 years through mutual friends that they have both been unfaithful. So it should be no surprise that CB was on some sites. Fetish sites though? I don't know, she seemed pretty vanilla but you never know what gets people off in the bedroom.
Getting a new phone and going to a gun range are very normal things for BB to do. Bringing the AP with? Maybe because he was having an affair, maybe she just wanted to learn to shoot, who knows. Maybe it was to get her to train to kill.
Now, all that being said, I still am very on the fence about if he did this or not. There is a part of me that thinks he did, because why would he bring AP/daughter into the house? But besides that, the timeline seems somewhat realistic to me.
BB gets a phone call from AP about an unknown car in the driveway and CB is not answering. He goes home, and tries to assess if CB is with another person. AP calls police, but doesn't know if anything is wrong and hangs up. When he goes inside the bedroom all pets are off. According the bond hearing AP heard BB screaming put the knife down and she ran to the bedroom.
All of this seems plausible, but I don't know the motive from JR, but that doesn't mean there wasn't one. Doesn't mean it wasn't setup from BB or, maybe, AP set the entire thing up.
Let's say AP wanted to get CB & BB divorced, and didn't know that CB was also (knowingly to BB) having affairs. Maybe she is psychotic and thought somehow, given that everybody knows that BB is extremely protective over his family and was a LEO, maybe he'd draw his gun on someone with a knife to his wife which would put an entire scenario on red alert. Maybe it was never her intention to get someone killed, maybe it was to get them divorced in some sick, twisted, stupid manner.
The truth is we don't know what happened. BB isn't saying anything, which is what his lawyer told him to do day 1. "Don't say anything to anyone"
If CB and BB were knowingly to each other in open relationships why did BB react so suspiciously to a strange car in front of his house? Why wouldn’t he just assume that CB had a friend over and tell the AP not to worry about it.
Something about that has been bothering me too. If my husband/or I came home and saw a car in our driveway we'd think there was someone doing something in the house- like a repair, etc. I wouldn't freak out as my first thought. Especially for Juliana to have that reaction, its not her home/she's an employee - so why was she so triggered by seeing someone go into the home. There was no forced entry, so wouldn't she have thought it was someone her employer knew and mind her own business? Anyway this part of the story is a little strange to me.
If the plan had been for the AP to take the kid to the zoo and mom’s plan was to enjoy peace and quiet/alone time and/or there were no planned visitors, I could see why the appearance of an unknown car in the driveway might trigger alarm bells.
You think an AP knows about every visitor, vendor, etc who comes to their employers home?
Imagine the scene- Joe's car was IN the driveway. Not around the block, hidden, etc. In plain site of everyone, cameras, etc. AP claims she saw him enter the home. He didn't sneak in a back door, windows or try to break in. He walked in obviously knowing it was unlocked. I don't think any of this is enough to sound alarm bells and need to call a husband who isn't even home.
I think it’s not unreasonable that after a year, an AP would be kept in the loop as to whom may or may not be expected to be coming to the house at any given time.
Not when she is expected to be in DC for hours.
Do we know if AP and the child were supposed to be going to the NATIONAL ZOO? Or were they going to the Reston Zoo/NovaWild? Driving into DC from Herndon at 8:00 a.m. on a weekday is not an easy drive. Was she that familiar with driving in DC? I could see her going to NovaWild or Frying Pan Park... but actually, NovaWild didn't open until 10:00 a.m. So that doesn't fit.
Didn't someone say something about buying tickets for the zoo? You don't need tickets to go to the National Zoo, right? And you don't need tickets for Frying PAn Park (which is just around the corner from their house). You just walk in. You do need tickets for Reston Zoo/aka NovaWild... but they aren't open that early. Hmmm.
The National Zoo in DC has required tickets for several years now. Hours are 8-6.
Of course the zoo sells food so there was no actual need to return to the house, just a made up one.
If they had packed lunches, no reason not to return.
The return really undermines the notion that anything had been planned. Infinitely simpler to have to au pair and child out of the house.
Not the plan BB and AP had made! Returning was a key factor. Duh!
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
So you would kill a man who was stabbing your wife (after she was killed of course!) but wouldn’t write an obit for her? Something her daughter could read one day?
And I thought Bb caught JR killing his wife, not his wife cheating? Which story is it?
Isn’t it obvious that after everything calmed down, couple days later he found out she was talking to JR?
She died on the 24th, service wasn’t until March 3rd. A lot was discovered in the mean time.
Per a friend of JR, he had met the couple, including BB.
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
She cheats on me, I get another girl as a replacement. If my wife cheats on me in those conditions, leading everyone to believe I’ve committed homicide, I can understand the rage and logic of getting the AP as a “new lover”.
Yes I would write an obit for my spouse! I would think most people would? Even if my spouse cheated, that’s still the parent of my child who was unjustly murdered. I would think most people would want to remember the good qualities of their spouse and celebrate their memory.
Eh, if i found them fatally stabbed by their knife-wielding fetish partner who I had to shoot leading people to believe I was somehow responsible for a double homicide all of which I would get to explain to my daughter, I might have trouble finding the words.
But no trouble moving your mistress into the same bed you stabbed your wife in?
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
She cheats on me, I get another girl as a replacement. If my wife cheats on me in those conditions, leading everyone to believe I’ve committed homicide, I can understand the rage and logic of getting the AP as a “new lover”.
Yes I would write an obit for my spouse! I would think most people would? Even if my spouse cheated, that’s still the parent of my child who was unjustly murdered. I would think most people would want to remember the good qualities of their spouse and celebrate their memory.
Eh, if i found them fatally stabbed by their knife-wielding fetish partner who I had to shoot leading people to believe I was somehow responsible for a double homicide all of which I would get to explain to my daughter, I might have trouble finding the words.
But no trouble moving your mistress into the same bed you stabbed your wife in?
I mean, if she created all of this for an andventure? And led everyone to see me as a murderer? Heck yea, I’m gonna bring another girl to the bedroom. Specially someone that would prob piss her off.
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
So you would kill a man who was stabbing your wife (after she was killed of course!) but wouldn’t write an obit for her? Something her daughter could read one day?
And I thought Bb caught JR killing his wife, not his wife cheating? Which story is it?
Isn’t it obvious that after everything calmed down, couple days later he found out she was talking to JR?
She died on the 24th, service wasn’t until March 3rd. A lot was discovered in the mean time.
She was a loving mother, daughter and friend. She was innocent. Full stop.
If they were into an open marriage as some are suggesting that doesn’t change the fact that she was innocent and yes deserved to be honored in an obit.
Only a cold blooded killer would have thought otherwise
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
So you would kill a man who was stabbing your wife (after she was killed of course!) but wouldn’t write an obit for her? Something her daughter could read one day?
And I thought Bb caught JR killing his wife, not his wife cheating? Which story is it?
It sounds like both- he caught her cheating and the guy killing her.
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
So you would kill a man who was stabbing your wife (after she was killed of course!) but wouldn’t write an obit for her? Something her daughter could read one day?
And I thought Bb caught JR killing his wife, not his wife cheating? Which story is it?
Isn’t it obvious that after everything calmed down, couple days later he found out she was talking to JR?
She died on the 24th, service wasn’t until March 3rd. A lot was discovered in the mean time.
She was a loving mother, daughter and friend. She was innocent. Full stop.
If they were into an open marriage as some are suggesting that doesn’t change the fact that she was innocent and yes deserved to be honored in an obit.
Only a cold blooded killer would have thought otherwise
Did you know her ? I mean, not trying to be disrespectful but we have no idea what goes on between a couple.
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
So you would kill a man who was stabbing your wife (after she was killed of course!) but wouldn’t write an obit for her? Something her daughter could read one day?
And I thought Bb caught JR killing his wife, not his wife cheating? Which story is it?
Isn’t it obvious that after everything calmed down, couple days later he found out she was talking to JR?
She died on the 24th, service wasn’t until March 3rd. A lot was discovered in the mean time.
Per a friend of JR, he had met the couple, including BB.
Even if the friend was correct, what’s to say that the guy JR met was BB?
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
She cheats on me, I get another girl as a replacement. If my wife cheats on me in those conditions, leading everyone to believe I’ve committed homicide, I can understand the rage and logic of getting the AP as a “new lover”.
Yes I would write an obit for my spouse! I would think most people would? Even if my spouse cheated, that’s still the parent of my child who was unjustly murdered. I would think most people would want to remember the good qualities of their spouse and celebrate their memory.
Eh, if i found them fatally stabbed by their knife-wielding fetish partner who I had to shoot leading people to believe I was somehow responsible for a double homicide all of which I would get to explain to my daughter, I might have trouble finding the words.
But no trouble moving your mistress into the same bed you stabbed your wife in?
I mean, if she created all of this for an andventure? And led everyone to see me as a murderer? Heck yea, I’m gonna bring another girl to the bedroom. Specially someone that would prob piss her off.
Oh yeah, that’s right! She totally planned to be butchered to death! It was an adventure! And how perfect, JR just suddenly decided he was into murder instead of sex.
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
So you would kill a man who was stabbing your wife (after she was killed of course!) but wouldn’t write an obit for her? Something her daughter could read one day?
And I thought Bb caught JR killing his wife, not his wife cheating? Which story is it?
Isn’t it obvious that after everything calmed down, couple days later he found out she was talking to JR?
She died on the 24th, service wasn’t until March 3rd. A lot was discovered in the mean time.
Per a friend of JR, he had met the couple, including BB.
Even if the friend was correct, what’s to say that the guy JR met was BB?
Would you, if you would catch her cheating on you and then this whole chaos played out ?
She cheats on me, I get another girl as a replacement. If my wife cheats on me in those conditions, leading everyone to believe I’ve committed homicide, I can understand the rage and logic of getting the AP as a “new lover”.
Yes I would write an obit for my spouse! I would think most people would? Even if my spouse cheated, that’s still the parent of my child who was unjustly murdered. I would think most people would want to remember the good qualities of their spouse and celebrate their memory.
Eh, if i found them fatally stabbed by their knife-wielding fetish partner who I had to shoot leading people to believe I was somehow responsible for a double homicide all of which I would get to explain to my daughter, I might have trouble finding the words.
But no trouble moving your mistress into the same bed you stabbed your wife in?
I mean, if she created all of this for an andventure? And led everyone to see me as a murderer? Heck yea, I’m gonna bring another girl to the bedroom. Specially someone that would prob piss her off.
Oh yeah, that’s right! She totally planned to be butchered to death! It was an adventure! And how perfect, JR just suddenly decided he was into murder instead of sex.
Oh, so all the girls that get killed meeting guys on Tinder were looking to get murderer? I guess not, huh? You just end up finding the wrong person.
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