Polls and Lols: A 2020 Master Thread

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Anonymous wrote:I like how Trump supporters are apparently too shy to tell someone, or respond to an automated/online survey that they plan to vote for Trump, but also are all attending massive Trump rallies.

And that they're apparently smart and coordinated enough to pull off this national deception.

[Anonymous]

If Biden wins Fl and Az, which should announce Tues night, game over. If not could drag out quite a while.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-north-carolina-likely-wont-be-called-on-election-night/amp/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Biden wins Fl and Az, which should announce Tues night, game over. If not could drag out quite a while.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-north-carolina-likely-wont-be-called-on-election-night/amp/

Arizona does drag out. McSally didn’t concede to Sinema for several days.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I like how Trump supporters are apparently too shy to tell someone, or respond to an automated/online survey that they plan to vote for Trump, but also are all attending massive Trump rallies.

It’s funny, isn’t it?

I read the linked article and it’s very good (and very short; it’s not a long form). For as much as Trumplings based in blue areas like to pretend that they’re some threatened delicate species, the fact is that Biden supporters in red areas are many and have actually been implicitly threatened - bullets used to take down someone’s Biden sign? That’s a threat.

And so we’re left to wonder just how many shy Biden voters there are in the places that ever so barely went for Trump in 2016.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Biden wins Fl and Az, which should announce Tues night, game over. If not could drag out quite a while.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-north-carolina-likely-wont-be-called-on-election-night/amp/

Arizona does drag out. McSally didn’t concede to Sinema for several days.

Depends how close it is

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Biden wins Fl and Az, which should announce Tues night, game over. If not could drag out quite a while.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-north-carolina-likely-wont-be-called-on-election-night/amp/

Arizona does drag out. McSally didn’t concede to Sinema for several days.

You’re right, ugh.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Biden wins Fl and Az, which should announce Tues night, game over. If not could drag out quite a while.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fivethirtyeight.com/features/why-pennsylvania-michigan-wisconsin-north-carolina-likely-wont-be-called-on-election-night/amp/

Arizona does drag out. McSally didn’t concede to Sinema for several days.

You’re right, ugh.

Trump can’t win without Fl and some of the swings favoring Biden right? If Biden wins FL hard to imagine he loses.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about PA. Those Trump rallies were massive. Is there indeed a large uncounted vote there?

If you read articles about the rallies, you learn that they are sort of like Grateful Dead concerts. There are people who travel around from show to show. Yes, of course locals come out because its always exciting to see a president of the US live and in person, but a few thousand people at a superspreader event is not the same as ensuring the millions of votes needed to win a state or country.

Bernie also had a lot of packed rallies. Biden won the nomination. I think you can read enthusiasm into those rallies, but not necessarily numbers.

Anyway, all we can do now is one last GOVT push, and hope.

No Bernie did not have a “lot” of “packed” rallies, at least by Trump standards. Trump had four rallies yesterday in PA alone. There were 57,000 people at ONE of them.

Bernie had nothing of the sort, ever in his wildest dreams.

57000 people at a rally during a pandemic? Thanks for reminding me that the Republican Party is a death cult.

Do you honestly think Biden could pull 57,000 people at a rally if covid didnt exist and things were normal? Color me skeptical.

Probably. But remember, Biden isn’t a cult leader. Dems don’t need to hear a dear leader speak for validation about our choices. Backing Biden isn’t a lifestyle and we aren’t defensive about backing him. We know he’s a good guy and don’t need to be in a political rally to feel good about supporting him. Unlike Trump voters who need group validation for backing a crook, a liar, a rapist, bigot, white supremicist, tax cheat, etc...

I really love this response.

I know this is about polls, but it seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance. They are literally responding to data with anecdotes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about PA. Those Trump rallies were massive. Is there indeed a large uncounted vote there?

If you read articles about the rallies, you learn that they are sort of like Grateful Dead concerts. There are people who travel around from show to show. Yes, of course locals come out because its always exciting to see a president of the US live and in person, but a few thousand people at a superspreader event is not the same as ensuring the millions of votes needed to win a state or country.

Bernie also had a lot of packed rallies. Biden won the nomination. I think you can read enthusiasm into those rallies, but not necessarily numbers.

Anyway, all we can do now is one last GOVT push, and hope.

No Bernie did not have a “lot” of “packed” rallies, at least by Trump standards. Trump had four rallies yesterday in PA alone. There were 57,000 people at ONE of them.

Bernie had nothing of the sort, ever in his wildest dreams.

57000 people at a rally during a pandemic? Thanks for reminding me that the Republican Party is a death cult.

Do you honestly think Biden could pull 57,000 people at a rally if covid didnt exist and things were normal? Color me skeptical.

Probably. But remember, Biden isn’t a cult leader. Dems don’t need to hear a dear leader speak for validation about our choices. Backing Biden isn’t a lifestyle and we aren’t defensive about backing him. We know he’s a good guy and don’t need to be in a political rally to feel good about supporting him. Unlike Trump voters who need group validation for backing a crook, a liar, a rapist, bigot, white supremicist, tax cheat, etc...

I really love this response.

I know this is about polls, but it seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance. They are literally responding to data with anecdotes.

The polls were not foolproof last time. Trump closed in rapidly at the finish in 2016.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about PA. Those Trump rallies were massive. Is there indeed a large uncounted vote there?

If you read articles about the rallies, you learn that they are sort of like Grateful Dead concerts. There are people who travel around from show to show. Yes, of course locals come out because its always exciting to see a president of the US live and in person, but a few thousand people at a superspreader event is not the same as ensuring the millions of votes needed to win a state or country.

Bernie also had a lot of packed rallies. Biden won the nomination. I think you can read enthusiasm into those rallies, but not necessarily numbers.

Anyway, all we can do now is one last GOVT push, and hope.

No Bernie did not have a “lot” of “packed” rallies, at least by Trump standards. Trump had four rallies yesterday in PA alone. There were 57,000 people at ONE of them.

Bernie had nothing of the sort, ever in his wildest dreams.

57000 people at a rally during a pandemic? Thanks for reminding me that the Republican Party is a death cult.

Do you honestly think Biden could pull 57,000 people at a rally if covid didnt exist and things were normal? Color me skeptical.

Probably. But remember, Biden isn’t a cult leader. Dems don’t need to hear a dear leader speak for validation about our choices. Backing Biden isn’t a lifestyle and we aren’t defensive about backing him. We know he’s a good guy and don’t need to be in a political rally to feel good about supporting him. Unlike Trump voters who need group validation for backing a crook, a liar, a rapist, bigot, white supremicist, tax cheat, etc...

I really love this response.

I know this is about polls, but it seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance. They are literally responding to data with anecdotes.

The polls were not foolproof last time. Trump closed in rapidly at the finish in 2016.

There were many more undecideds last time plus the Comey factor. Not impossible but unlikely to be the case this time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I like how Trump supporters are apparently too shy to tell someone, or respond to an automated/online survey that they plan to vote for Trump, but also are all attending massive Trump rallies.

It’s funny, isn’t it?

I read the linked article and it’s very good (and very short; it’s not a long form). For as much as Trumplings based in blue areas like to pretend that they’re some threatened delicate species, the fact is that Biden supporters in red areas are many and have actually been implicitly threatened - bullets used to take down someone’s Biden sign? That’s a threat.

And so we’re left to wonder just how many shy Biden voters there are in the places that ever so barely went for Trump in 2016.

This is the point I made way upthread after one of the R PA Congressmen in a red district (Scott Perry? Mike Kelly? One of those) said on a Trump campaign call that he was super confident about Trump’s 10-point lead in his district. That was a district that Trump won by 20 points. No, Biden isn’t going to win the places that these women live, but if Biden chips away enough at enough margins, that’s it. Trump didn’t win it by much.

[Anonymous]

It seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance.

This. Hilarious.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about PA. Those Trump rallies were massive. Is there indeed a large uncounted vote there?

If you read articles about the rallies, you learn that they are sort of like Grateful Dead concerts. There are people who travel around from show to show. Yes, of course locals come out because its always exciting to see a president of the US live and in person, but a few thousand people at a superspreader event is not the same as ensuring the millions of votes needed to win a state or country.

Bernie also had a lot of packed rallies. Biden won the nomination. I think you can read enthusiasm into those rallies, but not necessarily numbers.

Anyway, all we can do now is one last GOVT push, and hope.

No Bernie did not have a “lot” of “packed” rallies, at least by Trump standards. Trump had four rallies yesterday in PA alone. There were 57,000 people at ONE of them.

Bernie had nothing of the sort, ever in his wildest dreams.

57000 people at a rally during a pandemic? Thanks for reminding me that the Republican Party is a death cult.

Do you honestly think Biden could pull 57,000 people at a rally if covid didnt exist and things were normal? Color me skeptical.

Probably. But remember, Biden isn’t a cult leader. Dems don’t need to hear a dear leader speak for validation about our choices. Backing Biden isn’t a lifestyle and we aren’t defensive about backing him. We know he’s a good guy and don’t need to be in a political rally to feel good about supporting him. Unlike Trump voters who need group validation for backing a crook, a liar, a rapist, bigot, white supremicist, tax cheat, etc...

I really love this response.

I know this is about polls, but it seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance. They are literally responding to data with anecdotes.

The polls were not foolproof last time. Trump closed in rapidly at the finish in 2016.

How rapidly can he gain ground when 90 million people have already voted?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about PA. Those Trump rallies were massive. Is there indeed a large uncounted vote there?

If you read articles about the rallies, you learn that they are sort of like Grateful Dead concerts. There are people who travel around from show to show. Yes, of course locals come out because its always exciting to see a president of the US live and in person, but a few thousand people at a superspreader event is not the same as ensuring the millions of votes needed to win a state or country.

Bernie also had a lot of packed rallies. Biden won the nomination. I think you can read enthusiasm into those rallies, but not necessarily numbers.

Anyway, all we can do now is one last GOVT push, and hope.

No Bernie did not have a “lot” of “packed” rallies, at least by Trump standards. Trump had four rallies yesterday in PA alone. There were 57,000 people at ONE of them.

Bernie had nothing of the sort, ever in his wildest dreams.

57,000 number is from a Breitbart writer, who refers to a twitter post, which says someone told him that the Secret Service said it.

So pretty suspect source.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t know about PA. Those Trump rallies were massive. Is there indeed a large uncounted vote there?

If you read articles about the rallies, you learn that they are sort of like Grateful Dead concerts. There are people who travel around from show to show. Yes, of course locals come out because its always exciting to see a president of the US live and in person, but a few thousand people at a superspreader event is not the same as ensuring the millions of votes needed to win a state or country.

Bernie also had a lot of packed rallies. Biden won the nomination. I think you can read enthusiasm into those rallies, but not necessarily numbers.

Anyway, all we can do now is one last GOVT push, and hope.

No Bernie did not have a “lot” of “packed” rallies, at least by Trump standards. Trump had four rallies yesterday in PA alone. There were 57,000 people at ONE of them.

Bernie had nothing of the sort, ever in his wildest dreams.

57000 people at a rally during a pandemic? Thanks for reminding me that the Republican Party is a death cult.

Do you honestly think Biden could pull 57,000 people at a rally if covid didnt exist and things were normal? Color me skeptical.

Probably. But remember, Biden isn’t a cult leader. Dems don’t need to hear a dear leader speak for validation about our choices. Backing Biden isn’t a lifestyle and we aren’t defensive about backing him. We know he’s a good guy and don’t need to be in a political rally to feel good about supporting him. Unlike Trump voters who need group validation for backing a crook, a liar, a rapist, bigot, white supremicist, tax cheat, etc...

I really love this response.

I know this is about polls, but it seems that Trump supporters think that polls can be replaced by rally attendance. They are literally responding to data with anecdotes.

The polls were not foolproof last time. Trump closed in rapidly at the finish in 2016.

How rapidly can he gain ground when 90 million people have already voted?

No, they didn’t close. Democratic turn out plummeted.