Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

I think the thing that’s been bothering me is the way Jen isn’t actually producing anything of real value yet she’s acting as though just hearing her thoughts on things is of the utmost importance. There’s a pretentiousness about everything she does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She gets worse the more I watch. I can’t really put it into words. Desperate to remain relevant is the best way I can describe the vibe she gives off. That and she’s annoying AF with her little smug grins and weird f’ing lisp. And Tyler— dude is a darker male version of her in many ways. He just wants to be so relevant. They’re icky. Seriously. I feel bad for hating so much but they are a f’in train wreck.

Yep. They’re both what my generation calls CRINGE.

[Anonymous]

I sometimes wonder if she wants to remove herself from this lifestyle, where all her ship is on display. I really don’t think she can get out of it however. I mean what skills does she have to make a living? She started writing books, getting speaking engagements, peddling crap on her IG. It’s evident that she and Brandon made a decent living, right? I mean she had a lake house, takes lots of expensive trips, etc. But, let’s say that she just wanted to get out of the whole D-List Christian-y influencer/celeb deal, what would be her means of supporting herself and family? I mean, she was a teacher at one point, but I don’t see her lowering herself to the status and pay that teachers have. Teachers in TX struggle just to make $60K and that’s with 20 yrs of experience. And, in TX, the health insurance for a family for teachers is generally super expensive. What’s she gonna do? She has no choice but continue to try to remain in the spotlight to maintain this lifestyle. It’s got to be killing her. Maybe she’s sitting on some great investments, but those we’re likely split 50/50 with ol’ Brandon, since TX is a community property state. So, she’s stuck in my opinion. Girl has no marketable skills other than trying to be funny and make a dime off promoting some crap through her social media or inking a book deal. My guess is she’s going to try to angle some sort of sweetheart deal with one of her rich friend. Sort of like what I think Brandon did. He’s got no skills either.

[Anonymous]

For sure Jen & her minions are on here and that midnight Jen-is-a-goddess post was a drunken mecamp post. We’ve seen jen almost directly respond to posts here on her Facebook.

As for Brandon, we know for a fact he has posted because he told us. Maybe he doesn’t look every day but he definitely checks in. Like maybe from Cancun after a few margaritas.

They’re here. Definitely.
Hi jen!
Hi Jenny!
Hi Shonna!
Hi Brandon!
Hi Tina!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m super happy for Brandon. He was obviously miserable being married to a MeMonster. Texas Barbie is let’s be honest gorgeous, seems chill and sweet and fun, and doesn’t want fame. They are a good match.

I have seen this in so many marriages -- where one partner is narcissistic/preoccupied with childrearing, pals, sports etc. -- and totally neglects or ignores the partners.

No surer way to starve a marriage.

Throwing child rearing into this mix seems unfair and misogynistic. Women who are “preoccupied” with child rearing are typically raising kids with partners who aren’t involved enough. I’d argue that the uninvolved husband who is not sharing child rearing duties is the one starving the marriage, not the exhausted mom who doesn’t have enough support in the home.

Yeah, well I'm anything BUT misogynistic. Women (or men) who focus on their kids, or work, or their pals, and neglect their spouse are harming their relationship. It's a fact. People can be spouses, parents, employees, business owners and have an active social life BUT have to do it in balance. And it's not healthy for kids to have the constant, undivided attention of a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For sure Jen & her minions are on here and that midnight Jen-is-a-goddess post was a drunken mecamp post. We’ve seen jen almost directly respond to posts here on her Facebook.

As for Brandon, we know for a fact he has posted because he told us. Maybe he doesn’t look every day but he definitely checks in. Like maybe from Cancun after a few margaritas.

They’re here. Definitely.
Hi jen!
Hi Jenny!
Hi Shonna!
Hi Brandon!
Hi Tina!

WHO CARES?!?

[Anonymous]

I don’t know how to put the post I’m commenting on (the blue box) but to the person that said about Jens hair ALWAYS looking like she needs her roots done…..YES!!! Like always! She needs a new stylist that books her out every 4 weeks if she is going to remain blonde cuz that dark/gray strip is not it. And don’t even get me started on when she puts on the dark lipstick with it. Cringe x 1000%!!

[Anonymous]

Timeline: 2019:
On August 29th, Brandon posted a pic of Ben in the ER after he had broken his arm while playing football. On September 6th, 2019, he posted a pic of Ben having surgery on his arm. Given that Tina is some sort of a healthcare professional, I speculate Brandon met her during this event.

On September 11, Jen posted about leaving for her first trip of the fall. I think this left Brandon as the caregiver for Ben and his broken arm during this time and it gave Brandon ample opportunity to begin a flirtatious thing with Tina. Jen seemed to be away from home and traveling quite a bit in September and October of 2019. I think this was the window in which Brandon and Tina began their affair.

Around November 16th Brandon and Jen were in Tulum for a friend’s wedding/vacation. I think Brandon spent the entire vacation sneaking away and texting Tina about how much he missed her. They left on November 23rd according to Jen’s IG.

On November 24 2019, Tina re-posted one of those sappy posts where basically the message is “One day someone will enter your life with all the love you’ve ever lost and it will all make sense.” It seemed to indicate she had found a partner, however she doesn’t post any pics of who she could be talking about (probably bc her perfect man was still married). I think that when Brandon returned from Tulum, seeing Tina was the first thing on his to-do list so he saw her and professed how much he had missed her and then went into some type of gaslighting spiel about how they had to lay low at her place and not be seen so as not to have their affair exposed.

Brandon posted a couple of pics of himself at the lake in December and he seemed to be there by himself. I think he took Tina there and this is the real reason that Jen wanted to sell the lakehouse – although I do think there was also some financial messiness with the lakehouse. When Covid first hit, Jen made a post about having to refund about $25k in AirBnb deposits on their lakehouse. So…since they were using their lakehouse as a rental, according to Texas law, you’re required to pay the hotel/motel tax on that and sometimes, the owners themselves are responsible for doing that. This is a somewhat new-ish law on the books and it probably caught Jen by surprise and she may not have found out that they owed taxes on it until they went to sell it. Again – just speculation of things that could have happened.

I also think that Brandon felt the need to buy Tina expensive gifts during their affair so he was buying her Gucci bags, jewelry, etc. Brandon (like Jen) seems to have zero self-worth and they tie their value to a partner. Brandon probably thought he was incredibly lucky to land Texas Barbie and was going to do everything he could to hold on to her. That being said, I genuinely don’t think he planned on being with her – I think he wanted to have his cake and eat it too – never thinking that he’d get caught. When Jen uncovered everything, it kind of forced his hand and he had to commit to Tina because God forbid he just be alone and by himself.

Back to the timeline - I think on Glennon’s podcast Jen mentioned that she felt something wasn’t right around in January, 2020. I’m sure that Brandon was slinking off to corners of the house to text Tina and was probably traveling “for work” but hooking up with Tina.

On February 15, 2020 he posted a pic that said, “Good Things Take Time”, no doubt a shoutout to Tina who was probably ticked he had to spend VDay with his wife.

On April 6, 2020 he posted what would be a few posts thanking those serving in healthcare and a partnership with Legacy Collective – no doubt a nod to Tina – the HeAlThCaRe professional.

It was in April where Jen was having a meltdown bc Brandon had begun to rip up the porch. I think quarantine had gotten to him and he was bursting at the seams since he wasn’t getting to see his mistress as much as he wanted to. He was literally telling Jen and the kids that he was tearing the home apart. Destruction was coming soon.

When Jen posted a pic of the two of them in June, she used a picture of them that she had posted before leading me to believe they didn’t have sunset and rainbows anniversary.

On September 7, 2020, Jen posted that her and Brandon were divorcing. On September 23rd Brandon posted a pic showing that he had moved out of his house. This couch looks to be an identical version of one that shows up in a pic on Tina’s FB page. I think Brandon moved directly in with Tina.

On February 10, 2021, Tina announced on FB that she was in a relationship with Brandon. I think Tina posted this literally the day the ink was dry on their divorce papers as she’d been his secret girlfriend for over a year. The timeline matches up – when she announced it on FB it was 6 months after the divorce announcement, which would have had them officially divorced.

So why did they get divorced: he had an affair and it was with Tina. He spent money from their joint account buying Tina expensive gifts. They had to scrape together some money to get the lakehouse taxes paid off before hitting the market so there weren’t any title issues. They sold the lakehouse because Brandon had been taking Tina up there. Brandon seems to really love his alcohol (based on the pics that their friends are tagging them in on social media during this current trip – they’re drinking like they’re 18 years old and on Spring Break – it comes across as midlife crisis immature.

I don’t think their relationship will last the long haul because Brandon just doesn’t seem to know who he really is as a person. Until he figures that out, he’s not going to be happy and will continue to chase the booze, the women and whatever makes him a caricature of a fake Texas Cowboy living in his own Yellowstone drama.

Same with Jen – this thing with Tyler is a joke. They have zero sexual chemistry but they may make good friends. Until Jen realizes who she is (the modern day version of a TV evangelist who takes advantage of people), she’ll continue to just chase…nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

For sure Jen & her minions are on here and that midnight Jen-is-a-goddess post was a drunken mecamp post. We’ve seen jen almost directly respond to posts here on her Facebook.

As for Brandon, we know for a fact he has posted because he told us. Maybe he doesn’t look every day but he definitely checks in. Like maybe from Cancun after a few margaritas.

They’re here. Definitely.
Hi jen!
Hi Jenny!
Hi Shonna!
Hi Brandon!
Hi Tina!

That was someone joking about being Brandon. 🤦🏻‍♀️ And you have NO IDEA about her friends posting!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Timeline: 2019:
On August 29th, Brandon posted a pic of Ben in the ER after he had broken his arm while playing football. On September 6th, 2019, he posted a pic of Ben having surgery on his arm. Given that Tina is some sort of a healthcare professional, I speculate Brandon met her during this event.

On September 11, Jen posted about leaving for her first trip of the fall. I think this left Brandon as the caregiver for Ben and his broken arm during this time and it gave Brandon ample opportunity to begin a flirtatious thing with Tina. Jen seemed to be away from home and traveling quite a bit in September and October of 2019. I think this was the window in which Brandon and Tina began their affair.

Around November 16th Brandon and Jen were in Tulum for a friend’s wedding/vacation. I think Brandon spent the entire vacation sneaking away and texting Tina about how much he missed her. They left on November 23rd according to Jen’s IG.

On November 24 2019, Tina re-posted one of those sappy posts where basically the message is “One day someone will enter your life with all the love you’ve ever lost and it will all make sense.” It seemed to indicate she had found a partner, however she doesn’t post any pics of who she could be talking about (probably bc her perfect man was still married). I think that when Brandon returned from Tulum, seeing Tina was the first thing on his to-do list so he saw her and professed how much he had missed her and then went into some type of gaslighting spiel about how they had to lay low at her place and not be seen so as not to have their affair exposed.

Brandon posted a couple of pics of himself at the lake in December and he seemed to be there by himself. I think he took Tina there and this is the real reason that Jen wanted to sell the lakehouse – although I do think there was also some financial messiness with the lakehouse. When Covid first hit, Jen made a post about having to refund about $25k in AirBnb deposits on their lakehouse. So…since they were using their lakehouse as a rental, according to Texas law, you’re required to pay the hotel/motel tax on that and sometimes, the owners themselves are responsible for doing that. This is a somewhat new-ish law on the books and it probably caught Jen by surprise and she may not have found out that they owed taxes on it until they went to sell it. Again – just speculation of things that could have happened.

I also think that Brandon felt the need to buy Tina expensive gifts during their affair so he was buying her Gucci bags, jewelry, etc. Brandon (like Jen) seems to have zero self-worth and they tie their value to a partner. Brandon probably thought he was incredibly lucky to land Texas Barbie and was going to do everything he could to hold on to her. That being said, I genuinely don’t think he planned on being with her – I think he wanted to have his cake and eat it too – never thinking that he’d get caught. When Jen uncovered everything, it kind of forced his hand and he had to commit to Tina because God forbid he just be alone and by himself.

Back to the timeline - I think on Glennon’s podcast Jen mentioned that she felt something wasn’t right around in January, 2020. I’m sure that Brandon was slinking off to corners of the house to text Tina and was probably traveling “for work” but hooking up with Tina.

On February 15, 2020 he posted a pic that said, “Good Things Take Time”, no doubt a shoutout to Tina who was probably ticked he had to spend VDay with his wife.

On April 6, 2020 he posted what would be a few posts thanking those serving in healthcare and a partnership with Legacy Collective – no doubt a nod to Tina – the HeAlThCaRe professional.

It was in April where Jen was having a meltdown bc Brandon had begun to rip up the porch. I think quarantine had gotten to him and he was bursting at the seams since he wasn’t getting to see his mistress as much as he wanted to. He was literally telling Jen and the kids that he was tearing the home apart. Destruction was coming soon.

When Jen posted a pic of the two of them in June, she used a picture of them that she had posted before leading me to believe they didn’t have sunset and rainbows anniversary.

On September 7, 2020, Jen posted that her and Brandon were divorcing. On September 23rd Brandon posted a pic showing that he had moved out of his house. This couch looks to be an identical version of one that shows up in a pic on Tina’s FB page. I think Brandon moved directly in with Tina.

On February 10, 2021, Tina announced on FB that she was in a relationship with Brandon. I think Tina posted this literally the day the ink was dry on their divorce papers as she’d been his secret girlfriend for over a year. The timeline matches up – when she announced it on FB it was 6 months after the divorce announcement, which would have had them officially divorced.

So why did they get divorced: he had an affair and it was with Tina. He spent money from their joint account buying Tina expensive gifts. They had to scrape together some money to get the lakehouse taxes paid off before hitting the market so there weren’t any title issues. They sold the lakehouse because Brandon had been taking Tina up there. Brandon seems to really love his alcohol (based on the pics that their friends are tagging them in on social media during this current trip – they’re drinking like they’re 18 years old and on Spring Break – it comes across as midlife crisis immature.

I don’t think their relationship will last the long haul because Brandon just doesn’t seem to know who he really is as a person. Until he figures that out, he’s not going to be happy and will continue to chase the booze, the women and whatever makes him a caricature of a fake Texas Cowboy living in his own Yellowstone drama.

Same with Jen – this thing with Tyler is a joke. They have zero sexual chemistry but they may make good friends. Until Jen realizes who she is (the modern day version of a TV evangelist who takes advantage of people), she’ll continue to just chase…nonsense.

This is a lot of presumption and is kind of giving me creepy stalker vibes. I’m all for snarky on the stupid things they put out for public consumption, but this feels like it crosses some lines. I don’t even know how to explain how icky it feels to me - all the “I think/I’m sure…” it’s just so much speculation!

PS: Not Brandon. Not Jen. 😂

[Anonymous]

That’s all we do here is speculate!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Timeline: 2019:
On August 29th, Brandon posted a pic of Ben in the ER after he had broken his arm while playing football. On September 6th, 2019, he posted a pic of Ben having surgery on his arm. Given that Tina is some sort of a healthcare professional, I speculate Brandon met her during this event.

On September 11, Jen posted about leaving for her first trip of the fall. I think this left Brandon as the caregiver for Ben and his broken arm during this time and it gave Brandon ample opportunity to begin a flirtatious thing with Tina. Jen seemed to be away from home and traveling quite a bit in September and October of 2019. I think this was the window in which Brandon and Tina began their affair.

Around November 16th Brandon and Jen were in Tulum for a friend’s wedding/vacation. I think Brandon spent the entire vacation sneaking away and texting Tina about how much he missed her. They left on November 23rd according to Jen’s IG.

On November 24 2019, Tina re-posted one of those sappy posts where basically the message is “One day someone will enter your life with all the love you’ve ever lost and it will all make sense.” It seemed to indicate she had found a partner, however she doesn’t post any pics of who she could be talking about (probably bc her perfect man was still married). I think that when Brandon returned from Tulum, seeing Tina was the first thing on his to-do list so he saw her and professed how much he had missed her and then went into some type of gaslighting spiel about how they had to lay low at her place and not be seen so as not to have their affair exposed.

Brandon posted a couple of pics of himself at the lake in December and he seemed to be there by himself. I think he took Tina there and this is the real reason that Jen wanted to sell the lakehouse – although I do think there was also some financial messiness with the lakehouse. When Covid first hit, Jen made a post about having to refund about $25k in AirBnb deposits on their lakehouse. So…since they were using their lakehouse as a rental, according to Texas law, you’re required to pay the hotel/motel tax on that and sometimes, the owners themselves are responsible for doing that. This is a somewhat new-ish law on the books and it probably caught Jen by surprise and she may not have found out that they owed taxes on it until they went to sell it. Again – just speculation of things that could have happened.

I also think that Brandon felt the need to buy Tina expensive gifts during their affair so he was buying her Gucci bags, jewelry, etc. Brandon (like Jen) seems to have zero self-worth and they tie their value to a partner. Brandon probably thought he was incredibly lucky to land Texas Barbie and was going to do everything he could to hold on to her. That being said, I genuinely don’t think he planned on being with her – I think he wanted to have his cake and eat it too – never thinking that he’d get caught. When Jen uncovered everything, it kind of forced his hand and he had to commit to Tina because God forbid he just be alone and by himself.

Back to the timeline - I think on Glennon’s podcast Jen mentioned that she felt something wasn’t right around in January, 2020. I’m sure that Brandon was slinking off to corners of the house to text Tina and was probably traveling “for work” but hooking up with Tina.

On February 15, 2020 he posted a pic that said, “Good Things Take Time”, no doubt a shoutout to Tina who was probably ticked he had to spend VDay with his wife.

On April 6, 2020 he posted what would be a few posts thanking those serving in healthcare and a partnership with Legacy Collective – no doubt a nod to Tina – the HeAlThCaRe professional.

It was in April where Jen was having a meltdown bc Brandon had begun to rip up the porch. I think quarantine had gotten to him and he was bursting at the seams since he wasn’t getting to see his mistress as much as he wanted to. He was literally telling Jen and the kids that he was tearing the home apart. Destruction was coming soon.

When Jen posted a pic of the two of them in June, she used a picture of them that she had posted before leading me to believe they didn’t have sunset and rainbows anniversary.

On September 7, 2020, Jen posted that her and Brandon were divorcing. On September 23rd Brandon posted a pic showing that he had moved out of his house. This couch looks to be an identical version of one that shows up in a pic on Tina’s FB page. I think Brandon moved directly in with Tina.

On February 10, 2021, Tina announced on FB that she was in a relationship with Brandon. I think Tina posted this literally the day the ink was dry on their divorce papers as she’d been his secret girlfriend for over a year. The timeline matches up – when she announced it on FB it was 6 months after the divorce announcement, which would have had them officially divorced.

So why did they get divorced: he had an affair and it was with Tina. He spent money from their joint account buying Tina expensive gifts. They had to scrape together some money to get the lakehouse taxes paid off before hitting the market so there weren’t any title issues. They sold the lakehouse because Brandon had been taking Tina up there. Brandon seems to really love his alcohol (based on the pics that their friends are tagging them in on social media during this current trip – they’re drinking like they’re 18 years old and on Spring Break – it comes across as midlife crisis immature.

I don’t think their relationship will last the long haul because Brandon just doesn’t seem to know who he really is as a person. Until he figures that out, he’s not going to be happy and will continue to chase the booze, the women and whatever makes him a caricature of a fake Texas Cowboy living in his own Yellowstone drama.

Same with Jen – this thing with Tyler is a joke. They have zero sexual chemistry but they may make good friends. Until Jen realizes who she is (the modern day version of a TV evangelist who takes advantage of people), she’ll continue to just chase…nonsense.

“I think this was the window in which Brandon and Tina began their affair.”

“ I think Brandon spent the entire vacation sneaking away and texting Tina about how much he missed her.”

I too am a bit taken back by this novel of a post. Unless you know they had an affair why would you write all of this? Is it all based on social media? How much space are these idiots taking up in your brain?

So many questions!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:That’s all we do here is speculate!

Chiming in to say that long comment is a lot more than speculation though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I sometimes wonder if she wants to remove herself from this lifestyle, where all her ship is on display. I really don’t think she can get out of it however. I mean what skills does she have to make a living? She started writing books, getting speaking engagements, peddling crap on her IG. It’s evident that she and Brandon made a decent living, right? I mean she had a lake house, takes lots of expensive trips, etc. But, let’s say that she just wanted to get out of the whole D-List Christian-y influencer/celeb deal, what would be her means of supporting herself and family? I mean, she was a teacher at one point, but I don’t see her lowering herself to the status and pay that teachers have. Teachers in TX struggle just to make $60K and that’s with 20 yrs of experience. And, in TX, the health insurance for a family for teachers is generally super expensive. What’s she gonna do? She has no choice but continue to try to remain in the spotlight to maintain this lifestyle. It’s got to be killing her. Maybe she’s sitting on some great investments, but those we’re likely split 50/50 with ol’ Brandon, since TX is a community property state. So, she’s stuck in my opinion. Girl has no marketable skills other than trying to be funny and make a dime off promoting some crap through her social media or inking a book deal. My guess is she’s going to try to angle some sort of sweetheart deal with one of her rich friend. Sort of like what I think Brandon did. He’s got no skills either.

Plus she’s probably addicted to the attention at this point. She won’t get out of this life, because of all the reasons you listed PLUS who would “like” everything she said and tell her how awesome she is all the time? It’s so easy to get sucked into the need for attention and approval via social media.

[Anonymous]

PP and had never followed Jen Hatmaker, not on any social media platforms, only heard of her thru this thread.

I’m loving the long post from PP! Well done and researched. Not stalkerish when you consider the volume of personal information shared by the Hatmakers. If you don’t want followers and or to be a quasi celebrity, then don’t become a blogger/reality tv show star/broadcast your life and personal details.