Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.

Harvey Milk and George Moscone would like a word.


Those occurred behind closed doors in an office.

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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.


Uh you’re forgetting the two legislators in MN.


And we still don’t know the motive here so you can’t even say that this was political. The right wing is intentionally using this man’s death for their own culture war. Sick.
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Anonymous wrote:Here's a video of the disrespectful carrying.


Our tax dollars spent to transport a civilian?? Getting weirder and weirder



This is absolutely outrageous. I cannot believe they used Air Force Two for this.

Bodies are transported in caskets in FedEx and UPS air cargo planes every day. He can ride with the mail order packages of printer toner and fake rubber dogsh!t, where he belongs


Agree 100%.
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The way MAGA is exploiting this to promote mass violence against totally unrelated people like HBCUs and transgender people, and persecuting people for acknowledging Kirk’s own public advocacy about 2nd Amendment, it’s looking more and more like a false flag operation.
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Anonymous wrote:To all the people who say that no one knew this guy and that their well-informed kids didn't know him... sorry, but your kids are not well-informed.

I am 50-year-old mom and I get that, if you don't ever look at social media you may not have heard of him, but if you have teens you absolutely should have.

Charlie Kirk was uber famous. There are memes about the memes about him.

I am looking forward to when the 48-hours expire and we can discuss some of his views here. I wholeheartedly respect DCUM's rules and I condemn in the strongest possible terms what happened to Charlie Kirk. No one asks or deserves to me murdered. Political violence is horrible for all of us. But Charlie Kirk was a very famous public figure and there is no contradiction between denouncing the assassination and critiquing his views.

I’ve never heard of him nor have my tweens. We aren’t big into SM though. Is Kirk kinda like Mr. Beast? I have heard of Mr. Beast? Is that his name? He had his own brand of lunchables.


My college teens had never heard of him, when he was shot, they were told by friends that “he promotes gun violence and says horrific things”
So I guess it depends on who/where you are


My high school teen asked me about him last week so I explained scamming via 990s and explained that he's basically a con artist with rizz.

Face it, MOST “internet influencer” or “podcasters” never get traction and are drop out scam artists. Pushing cosmetics, pushing their personal option, pushing their Huak Tuan viral event for five mins.

Then there are the talented people who use them for civil discourse (Kirk) or broadening others horizons (Kelsey bros).

If you can’t tell the difference you’re not listening
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.


No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.
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Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.
He wasn’t just some youtube guy - he founded a movement. Don't go to the clueless for advice.

When you call a nonprofit a “movement“ you sound culty.


We really need to figure out why white people in America at this moment in time are so desperate for a cult savior. Is it just the pressure of not being born at the apex of society anymore? Like, they are kind of lost because they realize that being born White doesn’t award them any special powers?


White culture is in shambles and people are looking for a community. White people are not allowed to view other white people as their community in the same way that latinos or AA or Asians because racism. That leaves a void. Nature abhors a vacuum.


I mean, this is BS. We have Scottish walks, hughland games, Irish heritage parades, October festivals and German celebrations, Italian celebrations.

Heck my grandma was Dutch and we all wore our orange shirts and watched soccer together.

We also have Appalachian culture, Southern culture, white Portland culture.

There's plenty to find. Now if you start talking about white pride, sure I'm going to side eye you. But you attend an Irish parade or do a debutante ball? No problem.


Most white people in the USA are completely disconnected from their native culture. Obviously you don’t see the more stable Scottish, Irish or German ethnic groups committing these acts, do you? That’s because they have a strong cultural foundation and are not as susceptible to influence. Exactly what I described earlier. It’s right there for you to see. There is no unified white American identity in the way that all other groups have. I agree that it’s for legitimate reasons but that doesn’t change the outcome. We need to find and allow for a healthy white identity that young white men can latch onto or else we will continue to have lost young men turn to demagogues for their culture needs.



Sorry you think if they were more connected to their roots in the Irish Republican Army or the National Socialists of Germany, they’d be less violent. Brilliant take.


So, you know, white boys could latch onto their identity as AMERICANS, in a nation of immigrants and their descendants, instead of being insanely racist. They can even celebrate a little genocide from 200 years ago if they want, as long as they do it subtly.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.

The way the GOP is carrying on you would think the Almighty himself was the one who passed.


Why does them paying their respect to their friend bother you? And how does that compare to Saint Fauchi or Saint Floyd?


Because what other civilian has had a military honor guard like that? Bet you can’t name one off the top of your head.

Former First Ladies. And apparently, Charlie Kirk means as much to Trump as Melania does.
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Anonymous wrote:For those questioning all the media coverage, it’s the first time an American has been publicly assassinated in the US for their political beliefs SINCE 1968. It’s a big deal.


We know.

K-12 and diluted college system and lack of critical thinking on full display here. As usual.
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Patel is on the case 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣 no conviction even if found ever crime site already tainted by a maga influencer
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Anonymous wrote:Patel is on the case 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣 no conviction even if found ever crime site already tainted by a maga influencer


What?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.


No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.


That cuts both ways. You can’t lionize this man and spread rumors about the motive but then cover up the actual arrest and prosecution.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We need to hear more about this suspect in custody, ASAP. The longer they wait, the more conspiracy theories will flourish, and groups of people will be targeted in retaliation.


No

That’s not how it works at all.

Unclear why America needs to broadcast all its court cases, military strategies, and investigations.
Most countries do not whatsoever.

It’s an investigation and trial in court. Death penalty. They will get the details, not you.


Then why even announce that a suspect is in custody?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.
He wasn’t just some youtube guy - he founded a movement. Don't go to the clueless for advice.

When you call a nonprofit a “movement“ you sound culty.


We really need to figure out why white people in America at this moment in time are so desperate for a cult savior. Is it just the pressure of not being born at the apex of society anymore? Like, they are kind of lost because they realize that being born White doesn’t award them any special powers?


White culture is in shambles and people are looking for a community. White people are not allowed to view other white people as their community in the same way that latinos or AA or Asians because racism. That leaves a void. Nature abhors a vacuum.


I mean, this is BS. We have Scottish walks, hughland games, Irish heritage parades, October festivals and German celebrations, Italian celebrations.

Heck my grandma was Dutch and we all wore our orange shirts and watched soccer together.

We also have Appalachian culture, Southern culture, white Portland culture.

There's plenty to find. Now if you start talking about white pride, sure I'm going to side eye you. But you attend an Irish parade or do a debutante ball? No problem.


Most white people in the USA are completely disconnected from their native culture. Obviously you don’t see the more stable Scottish, Irish or German ethnic groups committing these acts, do you? That’s because they have a strong cultural foundation and are not as susceptible to influence. Exactly what I described earlier. It’s right there for you to see. There is no unified white American identity in the way that all other groups have. I agree that it’s for legitimate reasons but that doesn’t change the outcome. We need to find and allow for a healthy white identity that young white men can latch onto or else we will continue to have lost young men turn to demagogues for their culture needs.


Not really.

Maybe on the coasts everyone has lack of community, lack of heritage, lack of values and lack of faith. And lack of two parent households upon having children.

But many states and places in America do have all of that and many values.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My parents are who I go to for opinions of the non-perpetually online and here is my mother’s take, which I think was spot on:

“All the news was talking about was this guy that was killed yesterday, like the whole time. Who is this guy anyway? Kids are being killed every day, let’s care about that, not some stupid YouTube guy. I don’t know what’s going on with NBC, I’m going to stop watching if this is what the coverage is like.”

Essentially my mother honed in on how the media is desperately flailing to make people care about Charlie Kirk more than the dozens of children dying every day due to gun violence.
He wasn’t just some youtube guy - he founded a movement. Don't go to the clueless for advice.

When you call a nonprofit a “movement“ you sound culty.


We really need to figure out why white people in America at this moment in time are so desperate for a cult savior. Is it just the pressure of not being born at the apex of society anymore? Like, they are kind of lost because they realize that being born White doesn’t award them any special powers?


White culture is in shambles and people are looking for a community. White people are not allowed to view other white people as their community in the same way that latinos or AA or Asians because racism. That leaves a void. Nature abhors a vacuum.


I mean, this is BS. We have Scottish walks, hughland games, Irish heritage parades, October festivals and German celebrations, Italian celebrations.

Heck my grandma was Dutch and we all wore our orange shirts and watched soccer together.

We also have Appalachian culture, Southern culture, white Portland culture.

There's plenty to find. Now if you start talking about white pride, sure I'm going to side eye you. But you attend an Irish parade or do a debutante ball? No problem.


Most white people in the USA are completely disconnected from their native culture. Obviously you don’t see the more stable Scottish, Irish or German ethnic groups committing these acts, do you? That’s because they have a strong cultural foundation and are not as susceptible to influence. Exactly what I described earlier. It’s right there for you to see. There is no unified white American identity in the way that all other groups have. I agree that it’s for legitimate reasons but that doesn’t change the outcome. We need to find and allow for a healthy white identity that young white men can latch onto or else we will continue to have lost young men turn to demagogues for their culture needs.



Sorry you think if they were more connected to their roots in the Irish Republican Army or the National Socialists of Germany, they’d be less violent. Brilliant take.


So, you know, white boys could latch onto their identity as AMERICANS, in a nation of immigrants and their descendants, instead of being insanely racist. They can even celebrate a little genocide from 200 years ago if they want, as long as they do it subtly.


So then you just made more racist accusations. Wake up. Just listen to yourself. Should black people or Latinos also latch onto their identity as AMERICANS or are you proposing different rules for different racial groups? Ignorance.
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