SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

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Anonymous wrote:Che also can't act, which only makes her character more grating.

When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?

I think over the course of two decades while stagnating at home in a relationship that was comfortable but not right - and then going on a sort of rumspringa with Che, who is a disaster for Miranda but is also unleashing something in her that feels (to her) authentic and necessary. I think the problem is that usually we understand the powerful attraction that a character has to another character, but they've written Che so weirdly that none of us can imagine feeling that way about them. So it makes Miranda seem crazy, not just like someone who's bursting into something new in later midlife.

I continue to think that Miranda's midlife crisis can be narratively exciting, while we see her make mistakes and also find the person she believes herself to be at this stage of her life. It's just hinging so much of it on an unappealing character that makes this story hard for any of us to get with, I think.

Bingo.

The posts upthread about the intent to have Miranda and Nya together helped crystalize this for me. If they'd stuck with that, we'd see Miranda's sexual discovery being matched with intellectual growth, which would feel so authentic to her character. That would have been so fun to watch. She's clearly the smartest, best educated, and intellectual of the original four.

Instead we're supposed to believe that she's attracted to someone with the maturity of a teenage boy who plays video games with his friends until 4 in the morning. It makes no sense.

I think it makes sense, Nya is a type everyone would expect her to end up with (though, why is the assumption that because Miranda has discovered she is bisexual that Nya is open to a same-sex relationship? That jump is puzzling to me but I am firmly heterosexual so there is that) but Che is different from anything she has experienced before so she needs to do this, it's part of her journey.

Just going off what a pp said-- that Nya was originally supposed to be her love interest, but Cynthia Nixon wanted Sara Ramirez/the Che character. If so, Nya's character was rewritten as a straight married woman.

Bad choice. I suspect that sexual interest in people with ambiguous gender signals is fairly niche and limited, so it's not relatable. Also, I'm grossed out by how much of Cynthia Nixon's body I'm being forced to view in exchange for watching the show. It's much like the show Girls, which intentionally subjected viewers to ugliness as part of its shtick. But, AJLT isn't pulling it off as well as Girls. And to be clear before someone freaks out-- Nixon isn't ugly. But I can't be the only one who wishes I could unsee Nixon's softcore porn scenes.

Girl I’m with you 🙈

[Anonymous]

I just watched the first episode of season 2.. It was hard to watch. They are trying too hard with some of the wokeness…Miranda’s line to Nya that she is a ‘tenured Ivy League professor’, or that Nicole Ari’s husband character went to Morehouse (could not find his ‘Morehouse’ tie) yet successful enough that he can write her a $25k check for her film. Miranda and Che totally don’t work, would have been better with Nya! And how is Carrie able to move on so quickly even if just for sex?

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Anonymous wrote:I just watched the first episode of season 2.. It was hard to watch. They are trying too hard with some of the wokeness…Miranda’s line to Nya that she is a ‘tenured Ivy League professor’, or that Nicole Ari’s husband character went to Morehouse (could not find his ‘Morehouse’ tie) yet successful enough that he can write her a $25k check for her film. Miranda and Che totally don’t work, would have been better with Nya! And how is Carrie able to move on so quickly even if just for sex?

It was more than a full year before Carrie had sex with a person she knew and trusted. I have a friend who lost her husband very unexpectedly in his early 40s. NO ONE gets to judge how long someone grieves, and moves on, and in what way. It was more than a year! What, you wanted a show about nonstop raw grief?

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You actually could come up with some variety and new story lines.

+1 The penis pump storyline was literally something they planned for the original show twenty years ago and just got around to using now.

They even reuse jokes from the old show :”the only way to get over someone is to get under someone else” classic Samantha line from prior seasons. Delivered by misty von whatever 3 episodes ago. Tony Danza?! Gloria Steinem?! They are dragging in all these cameos to try to keep this show on life support…

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Anonymous wrote:Che also can't act, which only makes her character more grating.

When did Miranda become a bumbling fool?

I think over the course of two decades while stagnating at home in a relationship that was comfortable but not right - and then going on a sort of rumspringa with Che, who is a disaster for Miranda but is also unleashing something in her that feels (to her) authentic and necessary. I think the problem is that usually we understand the powerful attraction that a character has to another character, but they've written Che so weirdly that none of us can imagine feeling that way about them. So it makes Miranda seem crazy, not just like someone who's bursting into something new in later midlife.

I continue to think that Miranda's midlife crisis can be narratively exciting, while we see her make mistakes and also find the person she believes herself to be at this stage of her life. It's just hinging so much of it on an unappealing character that makes this story hard for any of us to get with, I think.

Bingo.

The posts upthread about the intent to have Miranda and Nya together helped crystalize this for me. If they'd stuck with that, we'd see Miranda's sexual discovery being matched with intellectual growth, which would feel so authentic to her character. That would have been so fun to watch. She's clearly the smartest, best educated, and intellectual of the original four.

Instead we're supposed to believe that she's attracted to someone with the maturity of a teenage boy who plays video games with his friends until 4 in the morning. It makes no sense.

I think it makes sense, Nya is a type everyone would expect her to end up with (though, why is the assumption that because Miranda has discovered she is bisexual that Nya is open to a same-sex relationship? That jump is puzzling to me but I am firmly heterosexual so there is that) but Che is different from anything she has experienced before so she needs to do this, it's part of her journey.

Just going off what a pp said-- that Nya was originally supposed to be her love interest, but Cynthia Nixon wanted Sara Ramirez/the Che character. If so, Nya's character was rewritten as a straight married woman.

Bad choice. I suspect that sexual interest in people with ambiguous gender signals is fairly niche and limited, so it's not relatable. Also, I'm grossed out by how much of Cynthia Nixon's body I'm being forced to view in exchange for watching the show. It's much like the show Girls, which intentionally subjected viewers to ugliness as part of its shtick. But, AJLT isn't pulling it off as well as Girls. And to be clear before someone freaks out-- Nixon isn't ugly. But I can't be the only one who wishes I could unsee Nixon's softcore porn scenes.

Girl I’m with you 🙈

Ditto

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just watched the first episode of season 2.. It was hard to watch. They are trying too hard with some of the wokeness…Miranda’s line to Nya that she is a ‘tenured Ivy League professor’, or that Nicole Ari’s husband character went to Morehouse (could not find his ‘Morehouse’ tie) yet successful enough that he can write her a $25k check for her film. Miranda and Che totally don’t work, would have been better with Nya! And how is Carrie able to move on so quickly even if just for sex?

It's been established that he comes from family money.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else think Charlotte and Harry's costume choice was super random? What is going on with Kristen Davis' vanity? First she is number 3 on the MILF list. Really?!? Then she is dressed as a character twenty years younger.

Charlotte and Harry dressed up as Elizabeth and Philip from The Americans was the best part of that whole episode!! Even my husband loved it, especially Harry as Philip with the wig and the glasses. Their astonishment that no one at the party understood who they were supposed to be was hilarious. ("It was on FX for seven years!")

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else think Charlotte and Harry's costume choice was super random? What is going on with Kristen Davis' vanity? First she is number 3 on the MILF list. Really?!? Then she is dressed as a character twenty years younger.

Charlotte and Harry dressed up as Elizabeth and Philip from The Americans was the best part of that whole episode!! Even my husband loved it, especially Harry as Philip with the wig and the glasses. Their astonishment that no one at the party understood who they were supposed to be was hilarious. ("It was on FX for seven years!")

I thought it was pretty random but did enjoy it.

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else think Charlotte and Harry's costume choice was super random? What is going on with Kristen Davis' vanity? First she is number 3 on the MILF list. Really?!? Then she is dressed as a character twenty years younger.

Charlotte and Harry dressed up as Elizabeth and Philip from The Americans was the best part of that whole episode!! Even my husband loved it, especially Harry as Philip with the wig and the glasses. Their astonishment that no one at the party understood who they were supposed to be was hilarious. ("It was on FX for seven years!")

Yes, I fully bought that whole plot line. I thought it was perfectly executed to, because Charlotte absolutely didn't look like she was in costume at all, but the second she grabs Harry, you can see it, and it's a funny sight gag. Also love Charlotte being delusional enough to think she looks just like Kerri Russel, which I think is actually kind of endearingly optimistic, not sad, because she's not acting like someone 20 years younger (she is very much in full on middle-aged society mom mode) but she has the confidence of someone young and beautiful. Good for her! And it probably helps that Harry fully sees her that way, too. I like that he's game for all her random whims, whether it's watching the Americans or dressing up as them or doing kegels together.

I often found Charlotte annoying on the original show but on the reboot, she's refreshingly comfortable with her life at middle age, all in on her marriage and her kids, using her intelligence and skills to do things she's passionate about. When the other women on the show sometimes seem to be flailing or unsure about themselves, she's a nice change of pace and I think really important to making the new show work, when it does.

Sarita Choudhury's character also serves this purpose to some degree, though she's more two dimensional so far, and given less to work with.

Together, Charlotte and Seema are almost a full Samantha!

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The idea that a fine black man would be interested in the aging Nya is laughable. She’s not very attractive. She gives off lesbian vibes actually.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea that a fine black man would be interested in the aging Nya is laughable. She’s not very attractive. She gives off lesbian vibes actually.

Whut?
I don’t think one bit of this is true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The idea that a fine black man would be interested in the aging Nya is laughable. She’s not very attractive. She gives off lesbian vibes actually.

Whut?
I don’t think one bit of this is true.

I admit to having the same thoughts as the pp. When the handsome dark man with a fancy accent approached Nya I had to suppress an eye roll. She's not as attractive and not very feminine. And that can be attractive but literally the top feature that straight men find attractive is femininity. Nya is attractive in her own way but she's not pulling models. Let's be real.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea that a fine black man would be interested in the aging Nya is laughable. She’s not very attractive. She gives off lesbian vibes actually.

Whut?
I don’t think one bit of this is true.

I admit to having the same thoughts as the pp. When the handsome dark man with a fancy accent approached Nya I had to suppress an eye roll. She's not as attractive and not very feminine. And that can be attractive but literally the top feature that straight men find attractive is femininity. Nya is attractive in her own way but she's not pulling models. Let's be real.

Get your prescription checked. She’s stunning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just watched the first episode of season 2.. It was hard to watch. They are trying too hard with some of the wokeness…Miranda’s line to Nya that she is a ‘tenured Ivy League professor’, or that Nicole Ari’s husband character went to Morehouse (could not find his ‘Morehouse’ tie) yet successful enough that he can write her a $25k check for her film. Miranda and Che totally don’t work, would have been better with Nya! And how is Carrie able to move on so quickly even if just for sex?

What? Why would graduating from Moorehouse, a great HBCU, mean you're not successful?

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How is the show still called “Sex” in the City with a bunch of 50ish-year old women? Are they all on hormone replacement therapy?