Feedback on VLC Club Lacrosse?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those that realize that HOCO scores really don't matter, the 2026 team is ranked top 20 by US Club lax and will be playing in front of all the top college coaches this summer. Trust the process.

VLC 2025: Ranked 103
VLC 2027: Ranked 91
VLC 2028: unranked
VLC 2029: Ranked 147
VLC 2030: Ranked 151

Overall Club Rankings: 71

Trust the process.

So you left out 2026?

[Anonymous]

Everyone fighting about who is better is unhinged. Life is about personal experiences and choices. Everyone will have a different experience and therefore a different view on which team is better.
And guaranteed VLC puts their teams in elite to attract players whether they deserve the “status” or not. People want to say their kid is elite. That’s the reason everyone went to the club to start. Kudos to VLC for reading parents like a book. Now that the teams blew up they have to go elsewhere so now people are
Championing a club they wouldn’t have considered before and probably made fun of before. This is comical. Both clubs have value. Go figure out which is best for your kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those that realize that HOCO scores really don't matter, the 2026 team is ranked top 20 by US Club lax and will be playing in front of all the top college coaches this summer. Trust the process.

You have totally lost perspective on youth sports. The point of club lax before highschool is skill development and fun. Neither of those goals are accomplished trotting out a mid-level VLC to play top ranked opponents. All that accomplishes is to discourage and demoralize the VLC players.

I assume you work for VLC as that is the clueless drivel I got from them. Btw do you think VLC 27, 28 or 29 will ever be a top 20 team. Probably not. Why? because all those teams blew up last year and the year before because they were no fun to play on.

VLC learn the lesson!

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the 29 VLC team in the B bracket at the Chrome Classic?

29 AA VLC team (old B team) just beat True Baltimore Green, a good AA team. The 30 team is at least a solid AA team, way better than the True Black team.

What’s the problem?

No it isn’t. Last years true Baltimore black moved over to Preds. The true green team moved up to black but lost their best players to teams like 91.

So the big win your are talking about is over kids that were at best practice players on Baltimore Green team last year. Try again.

Everything you said - whatever practice squad sounds like your story. Until they meet in hoco, I am not sold that True Nova is the better team.

Also what about 2030-2032? What about your entire up and coming youth program? Those 3 VLC teams can whoop all 3 True nova teams.

Quit trying to argue an entire program of ~10 years over 1 inconclusive year of 2029.

Nice try, try again.

So wanted to follow up on this post from the fall to see where True and VLC would match up.
At the 2029 level VLC and True NOVA Black didn’t meet but we can probably figure out the results since the TRUE 29 team won the AAA title and VLC didn’t make the AA playoffs.

At the 30 age group True beat VLC in the AA championship game.

No match up at the 31 level. VLC got hammered in the Elite division and True won its AA division.

The True NOVA hype is out of control. VLC 31 showed up in the 31 Elite division and fought each week. Took some lumps but good for them for competing at the top level. Would love to see True NOVA step up to the elite 31 division.

It isn't hype when you are posting facts and it was more attribute to the PP that stated they weren't sold on whether True NOVA Black (I think specifically the 29s) were better. So I wanted to provide the answer for them.

But I'll fix the opinion part of my post i.e. "hammered"

"No match up at the 31 level. VLC's 31 team playing in the elite division went 0-7 scoring 24 goals over those 7 games and giving up 71 goals over those 7 games. True 31s won the AA Division with a GF/GA or 52/39

So is your contention is that True Nova 31 team would have beaten some of the 2031 elite teams? Or is that they would not have been outscored 71-24? Since True 31s won the AA Division, they'll get a chance to jump to at least AAA, but with the talk on this board, they should go right to the Elite division. VLC 31 and Kelly Post finished 1/2 in AAA 2023, both moved up to elite (KP as Predators). I would expect to see Madlax DMV and FCA moved up to Elite in 2025.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For those that realize that HOCO scores really don't matter, the 2026 team is ranked top 20 by US Club lax and will be playing in front of all the top college coaches this summer. Trust the process.

VLC 2025: Ranked 103
VLC 2027: Ranked 91
VLC 2028: unranked
VLC 2029: Ranked 147
VLC 2030: Ranked 151

Overall Club Rankings: 71

Trust the process.

So you left out 2026?

Yes because I was responding to the poster who touted the 2026 ranking and specified what it was. Try to keep up

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For those that realize that HOCO scores really don't matter, the 2026 team is ranked top 20 by US Club lax and will be playing in front of all the top college coaches this summer. Trust the process.

And many of those kids will not get a sniff from the "top college coaches" save for maybe 1 or 2 that go to PVI, if even that. This is the most delusional group of lax parents out there.

As far as trust the process, it's an overused cliche. As far as VLC, what I never hear is WHAT the process is. Blindly believing a slogan is foolish and dangerous.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the 29 VLC team in the B bracket at the Chrome Classic?

29 AA VLC team (old B team) just beat True Baltimore Green, a good AA team. The 30 team is at least a solid AA team, way better than the True Black team.

What’s the problem?

No it isn’t. Last years true Baltimore black moved over to Preds. The true green team moved up to black but lost their best players to teams like 91.

So the big win your are talking about is over kids that were at best practice players on Baltimore Green team last year. Try again.

Everything you said - whatever practice squad sounds like your story. Until they meet in hoco, I am not sold that True Nova is the better team.

Also what about 2030-2032? What about your entire up and coming youth program? Those 3 VLC teams can whoop all 3 True nova teams.

Quit trying to argue an entire program of ~10 years over 1 inconclusive year of 2029.

Nice try, try again.

So wanted to follow up on this post from the fall to see where True and VLC would match up.
At the 2029 level VLC and True NOVA Black didn’t meet but we can probably figure out the results since the TRUE 29 team won the AAA title and VLC didn’t make the AA playoffs.

At the 30 age group True beat VLC in the AA championship game.

No match up at the 31 level. VLC got hammered in the Elite division and True won its AA division.

The True NOVA hype is out of control. VLC 31 showed up in the 31 Elite division and fought each week. Took some lumps but good for them for competing at the top level. Would love to see True NOVA step up to the elite 31 division.

It isn't hype when you are posting facts and it was more attribute to the PP that stated they weren't sold on whether True NOVA Black (I think specifically the 29s) were better. So I wanted to provide the answer for them.

But I'll fix the opinion part of my post i.e. "hammered"

"No match up at the 31 level. VLC's 31 team playing in the elite division went 0-7 scoring 24 goals over those 7 games and giving up 71 goals over those 7 games. True 31s won the AA Division with a GF/GA or 52/39

So is your contention is that True Nova 31 team would have beaten some of the 2031 elite teams? Or is that they would not have been outscored 71-24? Since True 31s won the AA Division, they'll get a chance to jump to at least AAA, but with the talk on this board, they should go right to the Elite division. VLC 31 and Kelly Post finished 1/2 in AAA 2023, both moved up to elite (KP as Predators). I would expect to see Madlax DMV and FCA moved up to Elite in 2025.

I believe the contention is that VLC is a bad value for money. That the VLC insistance on entering in elite brackets means that kids who go in loving lacrosse go out dreading it. Again if VLC has a requirement to play elite tournaments that’s fine if they also play some tournaments that they are actually competitive at.

[Anonymous]

Lots of VLC defenders in here. Truth hurts for them.

[Anonymous]

If I’ve said it once I’ve said it a thousand times - VLC is a dumpster fire on a sinking ship.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the 29 VLC team in the B bracket at the Chrome Classic?

29 AA VLC team (old B team) just beat True Baltimore Green, a good AA team. The 30 team is at least a solid AA team, way better than the True Black team.

What’s the problem?

No it isn’t. Last years true Baltimore black moved over to Preds. The true green team moved up to black but lost their best players to teams like 91.

So the big win your are talking about is over kids that were at best practice players on Baltimore Green team last year. Try again.

Everything you said - whatever practice squad sounds like your story. Until they meet in hoco, I am not sold that True Nova is the better team.

Also what about 2030-2032? What about your entire up and coming youth program? Those 3 VLC teams can whoop all 3 True nova teams.

Quit trying to argue an entire program of ~10 years over 1 inconclusive year of 2029.

Nice try, try again.

So wanted to follow up on this post from the fall to see where True and VLC would match up.
At the 2029 level VLC and True NOVA Black didn’t meet but we can probably figure out the results since the TRUE 29 team won the AAA title and VLC didn’t make the AA playoffs.

At the 30 age group True beat VLC in the AA championship game.

No match up at the 31 level. VLC got hammered in the Elite division and True won its AA division.

The True NOVA hype is out of control. VLC 31 showed up in the 31 Elite division and fought each week. Took some lumps but good for them for competing at the top level. Would love to see True NOVA step up to the elite 31 division.

It isn't hype when you are posting facts and it was more attribute to the PP that stated they weren't sold on whether True NOVA Black (I think specifically the 29s) were better. So I wanted to provide the answer for them.

But I'll fix the opinion part of my post i.e. "hammered"

"No match up at the 31 level. VLC's 31 team playing in the elite division went 0-7 scoring 24 goals over those 7 games and giving up 71 goals over those 7 games. True 31s won the AA Division with a GF/GA or 52/39

So is your contention is that True Nova 31 team would have beaten some of the 2031 elite teams? Or is that they would not have been outscored 71-24? Since True 31s won the AA Division, they'll get a chance to jump to at least AAA, but with the talk on this board, they should go right to the Elite division. VLC 31 and Kelly Post finished 1/2 in AAA 2023, both moved up to elite (KP as Predators). I would expect to see Madlax DMV and FCA moved up to Elite in 2025.

It was mostly tongue n cheek in the mythical match-up that would occur and the elite and AA results for both teams just means they are likely closer in talent then most suspect. As for HOCO next year for teams, there are still tons of moving parts. Yes, I wouldn't be surprised that True NOVA 2031 moves up to AAA. Unless there is some exemption, HOCO rules state that a club can't have 2 teams in the same division (maybe there is an exemption for elite) so I'd be skeptical ML-DMV moves up to elite even if they deserve it. FCA could certainly be moved up even with the championship results. There is also lots of moving parts in other programs. VLC is almost assuredly moving down. The same results happened last year to the VLC-See team for the 2029s and that team imploded with kids moving over to True Cheseapeke and True NOVA.

[Anonymous]

Look if you live in Arlington or Fairfax it makes no sense to choose VLC over True. True is better in every category that matters to players and their families. VLC is simply going to take the position that was once occupied by CAVs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look if you live in Arlington or Fairfax it makes no sense to choose VLC over True. True is better in every category that matters to players and their families. VLC is simply going to take the position that was once occupied by CAVs.

that would be a massive upgrade.

[Anonymous]

Back to Cavalier Park! Home of Champions!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Look if you live in Arlington or Fairfax it makes no sense to choose VLC over True. True is better in every category that matters to players and their families. VLC is simply going to take the position that was once occupied by CAVs.

All VLC teams practice at George Mason University, why would it not make sense for a Fairfax kid to join them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Look if you live in Arlington or Fairfax it makes no sense to choose VLC over True. True is better in every category that matters to players and their families. VLC is simply going to take the position that was once occupied by CAVs.

All VLC teams practice at George Mason University, why would it not make sense for a Fairfax kid to join them?

VLC try-outs are at Independence HS and George Mason. Also, I think the Cavs lacrosse fields were sold.