FCPS Skyview Boundary Revised Scenario 1 / 2

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Anonymous wrote:Who does Centreville Parent think should be moved out of Centreville? Does she/he agree that the BRES apartment kids should be kept at Centreville?


I'm curious about this too. Someone needs to get moved to Westfield from CVHS. That was one of the main reasons Skyview was purchased. Which area makes most sense? We all agree that the apartment kids who are closer to CVHS should stay, right?


Someone earlier (not sure if it was you) thought that area was super close to CVHS when in fact it's super close to Mountain View, not CVHS. It's closer to CVHS than Westfield, but not particularly close to either.


Its two miles away from CVHS. That's much closer to CVHS than every other part of Bull Run that is staying at CVHS.


Anyone with kids at Centreville HS know that Trinity parkway area is much closer to their school than all the other Bull Run neighborhoods. They are just hoping to volunteer that area-and that area only--as tribute. Its a win win for them.
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Anonymous wrote:1. The 77 BRES apartment kids should be moved back to Centreville since they are much closer to CVHS than WFHS.

2. The two far northern/western BRES SPAs should be moved to Stone/Westfield since they are far away from both HS.

3. The Cub Run split/Walney Village should stay at Westfield (WO should be moved too but that ship has sailed).

4. The CHS walkers should be moved back to CHS and sent to RRMS.


Does that neighborhood actually walk to Chantilly? Google maps has them walking on the side of 50 to get there. I can't imagine that is correct.


Why would they do that when they can walk through neighborhoods behind the library?

I think its not a designated walk zone hence why it was up for grabs to move, but the fact that it IS walkable to Chantilly means the low income kids who live there with transportation issues can still get themselves to school if they miss the bus, or stay after school for sports and get themselves home, etc.


I don't know, I don't live there, that's why I'm asking. I do live nearby and truthfully it seems logistically difficult and too far away for walkers.


Poor kids will walk farther than wealthy kids, if they need to get somewhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:You know I appreciate that Westfield parents haven't been at every meeting for the past year complaining. They seemed fine to take any regular mix of kids, and only became unhappy when the projected enrollment dipped well below every previous estimate. I think that behavior is reasonable.


The point is that it's unclear that Westfield parents are engaging in any manner reasonably designed to have an actual impact. If you've ever heard a SB member talk about this forum, it's not positive.

They really have no leg to stand on if their complaint is that they'd be left with more kids than nine other high schools. If they think the post-Skyview demographic mix won't support strong academics and extra-curriculars (and I hope it's more than just thinking they need to have 2300 or 2400 kids for dominant sports teams), they have to step up to the plate and make that argument.

As long as FCPS is prepared to keep a school with lower capacity utilization open, that just means more square footage per student, which while not the most important thing is a relative luxury.

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Anonymous wrote:You know I appreciate that Westfield parents haven't been at every meeting for the past year complaining. They seemed fine to take any regular mix of kids, and only became unhappy when the projected enrollment dipped well below every previous estimate. I think that behavior is reasonable.


agree and honestly--most people aren't paying attention if they know they aren't being moved. WF has always had tons of kids, most people assume FCPS will be moving kids out of other close by schools and into Westfield.

even people on here who have followed every twist and turn were shocked when the final map came out with so few kids at WF.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. The 77 BRES apartment kids should be moved back to Centreville since they are much closer to CVHS than WFHS.

2. The two far northern/western BRES SPAs should be moved to Stone/Westfield since they are far away from both HS.

3. The Cub Run split/Walney Village should stay at Westfield (WO should be moved too but that ship has sailed).

4. The CHS walkers should be moved back to CHS and sent to RRMS.


Does that neighborhood actually walk to Chantilly? Google maps has them walking on the side of 50 to get there. I can't imagine that is correct.


Why would they do that when they can walk through neighborhoods behind the library?

I think its not a designated walk zone hence why it was up for grabs to move, but the fact that it IS walkable to Chantilly means the low income kids who live there with transportation issues can still get themselves to school if they miss the bus, or stay after school for sports and get themselves home, etc.


I don't know, I don't live there, that's why I'm asking. I do live nearby and truthfully it seems logistically difficult and too far away for walkers.


Poor kids will walk farther than wealthy kids, if they need to get somewhere.


Again, there is a service road up to Lee's Corner, but they would likely pick up Tabscott near the shopping center and walk through Brookfield to the path behind the library. And, if you look at a map with birdseye, you will see that there is a walking trail by the community that does not require walking along 50.
It is a 10 to 15 minute walk.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know I appreciate that Westfield parents haven't been at every meeting for the past year complaining. They seemed fine to take any regular mix of kids, and only became unhappy when the projected enrollment dipped well below every previous estimate. I think that behavior is reasonable.


agree and honestly--most people aren't paying attention if they know they aren't being moved. WF has always had tons of kids, most people assume FCPS will be moving kids out of other close by schools and into Westfield.

even people on here who have followed every twist and turn were shocked when the final map came out with so few kids at WF.


It would have more than nine other FCPS high schools.

I think I'd prioritize finding a way to get more kids into Lewis over keeping Westfield at anything close to its current enrollment. Opening Skyview was always going to have the biggest impact on Westfield given that it's in the current Westfield catchment area.

And let's also not forget they would be reducing South Lakes to 50 fewer kids than Westfield.
Anonymous
Most of those nine schools you keep referencing are some of the weakest, worst schools in the county....
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You know I appreciate that Westfield parents haven't been at every meeting for the past year complaining. They seemed fine to take any regular mix of kids, and only became unhappy when the projected enrollment dipped well below every previous estimate. I think that behavior is reasonable.


agree and honestly--most people aren't paying attention if they know they aren't being moved. WF has always had tons of kids, most people assume FCPS will be moving kids out of other close by schools and into Westfield.

even people on here who have followed every twist and turn were shocked when the final map came out with so few kids at WF.


It would have more than nine other FCPS high schools.

I think I'd prioritize finding a way to get more kids into Lewis over keeping Westfield at anything close to its current enrollment. Opening Skyview was always going to have the biggest impact on Westfield given that it's in the current Westfield catchment area.

And let's also not forget they would be reducing South Lakes to 50 fewer kids than Westfield.


What does Lewis have to do with Westfield? They are on opposite sides of the county.

They can solve the Lewis problem tomorrow by switching to AP and doing a residency check for every kid at WSHS. Its not an unfathomable mystery.
Anonymous
The biggest issue Westfield will face is the loss of staff. Less options for students and many of the young teachers will be sent packing who are often the ones who are coaches and club sponsors. The school already lost a couple highly active young teachers this year with destaffs. It will only get worse the next 2-3 years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Most of those nine schools you keep referencing are some of the weakest, worst schools in the county....


How dare Westfield parents presume that they are allowed to keep their mediocre, middle of the pack school mediocre! What arrogance! You should be thanking FCPS for the opportunity to see how the bottom ten percent of schools live. No one needs AP classes or electives to graduate!
Anonymous
In two years Westfield will have 20+ brick and mortar classrooms unoccupied while students at Oakton, Centreville, Chantilly, and West Springfield will be piling into trailers for class. That is why these boundaries don’t make sense. The demographics are a minor problems, but the waste of available space is pure stupidity.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:1. The 77 BRES apartment kids should be moved back to Centreville since they are much closer to CVHS than WFHS.

2. The two far northern/western BRES SPAs should be moved to Stone/Westfield since they are far away from both HS.

3. The Cub Run split/Walney Village should stay at Westfield (WO should be moved too but that ship has sailed).

4. The CHS walkers should be moved back to CHS and sent to RRMS.


Does that neighborhood actually walk to Chantilly? Google maps has them walking on the side of 50 to get there. I can't imagine that is correct.


Why would they do that when they can walk through neighborhoods behind the library?

I think its not a designated walk zone hence why it was up for grabs to move, but the fact that it IS walkable to Chantilly means the low income kids who live there with transportation issues can still get themselves to school if they miss the bus, or stay after school for sports and get themselves home, etc.


I don't know, I don't live there, that's why I'm asking. I do live nearby and truthfully it seems logistically difficult and too far away for walkers.


Poor kids will walk farther than wealthy kids, if they need to get somewhere.


Again, there is a service road up to Lee's Corner, but they would likely pick up Tabscott near the shopping center and walk through Brookfield to the path behind the library. And, if you look at a map with birdseye, you will see that there is a walking trail by the community that does not require walking along 50.
It is a 10 to 15 minute walk.


It's about a 1.5 mile walk, which is certainly longer than 10-15 min.
Anonymous
A lot of kids would bike or scooter that.

They certainly can't get themselves to Westfield.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Most of those nine schools you keep referencing are some of the weakest, worst schools in the county....


How dare Westfield parents presume that they are allowed to keep their mediocre, middle of the pack school mediocre! What arrogance! You should be thanking FCPS for the opportunity to see how the bottom ten percent of schools live. No one needs AP classes or electives to graduate!


Nine out of 26 schools is closer to 25% than 10%.

And if you equate the number of kids with the quality of a school (questionable assumption since the 9 schools include South Lakes, South County, Marshall, and Skyview), you should be particularly sympathetic to Centreville parents who don't want to see their school further downsized to maintain Westfield at 2300 or 2400 kids.

Honestly, if you want to cancel Skyview or re-open boundaries county-wide again, let's have at it, but otherwise we're probably fairly close to the finish line here when it comes to the Skyview-related adjustments.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A lot of kids would bike or scooter that.

They certainly can't get themselves to Westfield.


I get it. It's much easier to undo a proposed move, but then that would put Westfield in an even worse position unless they send who? They aren't going to propose a new neighborhood be moved to Westfield the night of the final vote. Someone has to go to Westfield. I don't see any changes being made with the map unfortunately and they're running out of time to extend this again.
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