Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:People who don’t understand the nuance of these neighborhoods don’t see the community both White oaks and Sangster parents are fighting for. A man with a house on the dividing line made it clear - his neighborhood is walkable for students to visit friends etc but moving him to LBSS makes most of his school. community across the parkway and Lee chapel, eliminating the community aspect. white oaks parents explained that their neighborhood is governed by 3 HOAS that would be split in strange ways, again eliminating the neighborhood community when the students go to different schools.

When these parents talk about community, it’s not the school it’s where their physical house is and the community they see daily, carpool with, walk to friends houses etc. but moving these schools they would no longer be part of that because the natural boundaries are the parkway - and kids aren’t crossing that alone to go play w a friend

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Community is walkable. Community is heading to the pools and seeing a friend. Community is meeting a friend and safely biking without crossing main roads.

That may be true but that’s not the case in most FCPS schools.

But if it is the case for you, why change it? Just because other schools don’t have this, it doesn’t mean you should disrupt it when school boundaries involve a tight knit, easily traveled, community.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Good! Because ultimately, they need to reduce overcrowding at WSHS and increase enrollment at Lewis. Idc how they do it, people are going to be pissed regardless so just rip the bandaid off and get it done!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People who don’t understand the nuance of these neighborhoods don’t see the community both White oaks and Sangster parents are fighting for. A man with a house on the dividing line made it clear - his neighborhood is walkable for students to visit friends etc but moving him to LBSS makes most of his school. community across the parkway and Lee chapel, eliminating the community aspect. white oaks parents explained that their neighborhood is governed by 3 HOAS that would be split in strange ways, again eliminating the neighborhood community when the students go to different schools.

When these parents talk about community, it’s not the school it’s where their physical house is and the community they see daily, carpool with, walk to friends houses etc. but moving these schools they would no longer be part of that because the natural boundaries are the parkway - and kids aren’t crossing that alone to go play w a friend

I didn't understand that argument. There are no houses in that Sangster area that they're suggested moving in Scenario 4 where the dividing line is between houses. There's a house on Cottontail that's divided from its neighbors down the street in that scenario via Cherry Run Park. But the county usually uses natural boundaries like parks, woods and streams as dividing lines. The argument here is that kids would be able to play with their neighbors, but not other kids who go to their school because they couldn't walk to see them? Isn't that always the case, especially when it comes to middle and high schools? Are kids in that Sangster neighborhood walking up Keene Mill to hang out with their classmates from Daventry at the Plaza?

I understand that no one wants to leave their current school. I wish the county would look at less disruptive options, like their faulty CIP projections, why the number of transfers into "closed to transfers" WSHS has more than doubled in the past few years and residency checks. But FCPS isn't interested in doing any of that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Why can't they pursue looking at detailed demographic projections at a more granular level, not moving anyone from another pyramid in, doing boundary checks, truly closing to transfers, moving German, etc.? We're not at WSHS, but all of those things should be common sense. Why is it not "first do no harm" instead of "spread the harm around to as many as possible for poorly thought-out reasons"?

Of course people will be upset about any redistricting that affects them, but it would be MUCH less upsetting if they made a more compelling case that accounts for reality.

Reid and the staff sound very resistant to doing residency checks or anything else on this process. They seem tired of the whole thing and the easiest thing to do is to just change some boundaries.

Residency checks, looking into transfers (which someone pointed out doubled in numbers from a few years ago from 20 something to 50 something). When you are talking about moving a neighborhood out that only has about 10 students/grade, that matters.

Plus it's just the right thing to do. -Not personally affected

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who don’t understand the nuance of these neighborhoods don’t see the community both White oaks and Sangster parents are fighting for. A man with a house on the dividing line made it clear - his neighborhood is walkable for students to visit friends etc but moving him to LBSS makes most of his school. community across the parkway and Lee chapel, eliminating the community aspect. white oaks parents explained that their neighborhood is governed by 3 HOAS that would be split in strange ways, again eliminating the neighborhood community when the students go to different schools.

When these parents talk about community, it’s not the school it’s where their physical house is and the community they see daily, carpool with, walk to friends houses etc. but moving these schools they would no longer be part of that because the natural boundaries are the parkway - and kids aren’t crossing that alone to go play w a friend

I didn't understand that argument. There are no houses in that Sangster area that they're suggested moving in Scenario 4 where the dividing line is between houses. There's a house on Cottontail that's divided from its neighbors down the street in that scenario via Cherry Run Park. But the county usually uses natural boundaries like parks, woods and streams as dividing lines. The argument here is that kids would be able to play with their neighbors, but not other kids who go to their school because they couldn't walk to see them? Isn't that always the case, especially when it comes to middle and high schools? Are kids in that Sangster neighborhood walking up Keene Mill to hang out with their classmates from Daventry at the Plaza?

I understand that no one wants to leave their current school. I wish the county would look at less disruptive options, like their faulty CIP projections, why the number of transfers into "closed to transfers" WSHS has more than doubled in the past few years and residency checks. But FCPS isn't interested in doing any of that.

Weren't some of the commenters talking about these issues in the Cardinal Forest areas or maybe even Keene Mill?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who don’t understand the nuance of these neighborhoods don’t see the community both White oaks and Sangster parents are fighting for. A man with a house on the dividing line made it clear - his neighborhood is walkable for students to visit friends etc but moving him to LBSS makes most of his school. community across the parkway and Lee chapel, eliminating the community aspect. white oaks parents explained that their neighborhood is governed by 3 HOAS that would be split in strange ways, again eliminating the neighborhood community when the students go to different schools.

When these parents talk about community, it’s not the school it’s where their physical house is and the community they see daily, carpool with, walk to friends houses etc. but moving these schools they would no longer be part of that because the natural boundaries are the parkway - and kids aren’t crossing that alone to go play w a friend

I didn't understand that argument. There are no houses in that Sangster area that they're suggested moving in Scenario 4 where the dividing line is between houses. There's a house on Cottontail that's divided from its neighbors down the street in that scenario via Cherry Run Park. But the county usually uses natural boundaries like parks, woods and streams as dividing lines. The argument here is that kids would be able to play with their neighbors, but not other kids who go to their school because they couldn't walk to see them? Isn't that always the case, especially when it comes to middle and high schools? Are kids in that Sangster neighborhood walking up Keene Mill to hang out with their classmates from Daventry at the Plaza?

I understand that no one wants to leave their current school. I wish the county would look at less disruptive options, like their faulty CIP projections, why the number of transfers into "closed to transfers" WSHS has more than doubled in the past few years and residency checks. But FCPS isn't interested in doing any of that.

Weren't some of the commenters talking about these issues in the Cardinal Forest areas or maybe even Keene Mill?

There was someone from Cardinal Forest who said her child could walk to Cardinal Forest but is getting switched to Keene Mill and being bussed.
There's just no way to move things around in West Springfield and avoid these things. We live in an area that is almost all residential and high density.
I didn't think the Sangster families would be so against moving to LBSS, but I get that any move for kids is hard. I kind of wish those families could look at the big picture though. I think in the long run it's better to eliminate the split feeder and have the whole elementary move to middle and high school together at LBSS.
Our high schools are so close together and kids are so connected with technology now, that they all hang out with kids from different schools anyway. My WSHS student has good friends at LBSS, Lewis, Edison, and SoCo. I mean all of these schools are within 15 minutes of our house!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People who don’t understand the nuance of these neighborhoods don’t see the community both White oaks and Sangster parents are fighting for. A man with a house on the dividing line made it clear - his neighborhood is walkable for students to visit friends etc but moving him to LBSS makes most of his school. community across the parkway and Lee chapel, eliminating the community aspect. white oaks parents explained that their neighborhood is governed by 3 HOAS that would be split in strange ways, again eliminating the neighborhood community when the students go to different schools.

When these parents talk about community, it’s not the school it’s where their physical house is and the community they see daily, carpool with, walk to friends houses etc. but moving these schools they would no longer be part of that because the natural boundaries are the parkway - and kids aren’t crossing that alone to go play w a friend

I didn't understand that argument. There are no houses in that Sangster area that they're suggested moving in Scenario 4 where the dividing line is between houses. There's a house on Cottontail that's divided from its neighbors down the street in that scenario via Cherry Run Park. But the county usually uses natural boundaries like parks, woods and streams as dividing lines. The argument here is that kids would be able to play with their neighbors, but not other kids who go to their school because they couldn't walk to see them? Isn't that always the case, especially when it comes to middle and high schools? Are kids in that Sangster neighborhood walking up Keene Mill to hang out with their classmates from Daventry at the Plaza?

I understand that no one wants to leave their current school. I wish the county would look at less disruptive options, like their faulty CIP projections, why the number of transfers into "closed to transfers" WSHS has more than doubled in the past few years and residency checks. But FCPS isn't interested in doing any of that.

There’s not a park on cottontail. There is a swath of natural woods, but it’s not a significant space.

Kids from Sangster are walking up and down huntsman and Sydenstricker with their OHES and HVES base peers, some who actually went to Sangster with them in AAP. I’m unsure what Daventry has to do with this. They can safely bike to the many pools in this vicinity to go with friends. They go to the shopping center together and the lake.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Good! Because ultimately, they need to reduce overcrowding at WSHS and increase enrollment at Lewis. Idc how they do it, people are going to be pissed regardless so just rip the bandaid off and get it done!

One of the SB's goals since the beginning is to relocate a number of students from WSHS to Lewis. Thru did not deliver for Reid because Thru's original scenario maps generally reflected WSHS community feedback. With Reid and Anderson's signaling last night, don't be surprised for an 11th hour change that reduces WSHS count by moving more kids to Lewis.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:People who don’t understand the nuance of these neighborhoods don’t see the community both White oaks and Sangster parents are fighting for. A man with a house on the dividing line made it clear - his neighborhood is walkable for students to visit friends etc but moving him to LBSS makes most of his school. community across the parkway and Lee chapel, eliminating the community aspect. white oaks parents explained that their neighborhood is governed by 3 HOAS that would be split in strange ways, again eliminating the neighborhood community when the students go to different schools.

When these parents talk about community, it’s not the school it’s where their physical house is and the community they see daily, carpool with, walk to friends houses etc. but moving these schools they would no longer be part of that because the natural boundaries are the parkway - and kids aren’t crossing that alone to go play w a friend

I didn't understand that argument. There are no houses in that Sangster area that they're suggested moving in Scenario 4 where the dividing line is between houses. There's a house on Cottontail that's divided from its neighbors down the street in that scenario via Cherry Run Park. But the county usually uses natural boundaries like parks, woods and streams as dividing lines. The argument here is that kids would be able to play with their neighbors, but not other kids who go to their school because they couldn't walk to see them? Isn't that always the case, especially when it comes to middle and high schools? Are kids in that Sangster neighborhood walking up Keene Mill to hang out with their classmates from Daventry at the Plaza?

I understand that no one wants to leave their current school. I wish the county would look at less disruptive options, like their faulty CIP projections, why the number of transfers into "closed to transfers" WSHS has more than doubled in the past few years and residency checks. But FCPS isn't interested in doing any of that.

There’s not a park on cottontail. There is a swath of natural woods, but it’s not a significant space.

Kids from Sangster are walking up and down huntsman and Sydenstricker with their OHES and HVES base peers, some who actually went to Sangster with them in AAP. I’m unsure what Daventry has to do with this. They can safely bike to the many pools in this vicinity to go with friends. They go to the shopping center together and the lake.

What I don't get is that these Sangster kids do not go to elementary school with their neighborhood friends (besides the AAP kids). They do not go to the same ES as their walkable community, which nobody complains about, but then it's a big problem for MS and HS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Why can't they pursue looking at detailed demographic projections at a more granular level, not moving anyone from another pyramid in, doing boundary checks, truly closing to transfers, moving German, etc.? We're not at WSHS, but all of those things should be common sense. Why is it not "first do no harm" instead of "spread the harm around to as many as possible for poorly thought-out reasons"?

Of course people will be upset about any redistricting that affects them, but it would be MUCH less upsetting if they made a more compelling case that accounts for reality.

To be fair, the vocal people are the ones getting moved or in danger of getting moved that want to stay at the school. There are also LOTS of people who want relief from overcrowding at WS. In fact, one of the first questions was about only reducing WSHS from 112% capacity to 106% capacity and why they weren't able to get it down lower in scenario 4.

They could have gotten it down lower in scenario 4 if they had moved most of HV south of the Parkway to South County like they originally wanted. But then you had HV lobbying to stay at WS, which was granted, so now WSHS stays overcrowded. You can’t have it all - either everyone or most people stay at WS and it stays at 110%+ with trailers in essentially a brand new building, and the level of crowding will last until the large class of current 7th graders graduates. Or areas move out to address the crowding, but the people getting moved out end up at a smaller and more mixed income MS/HS (South County) or at the dreaded 7-12 secondary school (Lake Braddock) which they don’t want, so they lobby to stay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Why can't they pursue looking at detailed demographic projections at a more granular level, not moving anyone from another pyramid in, doing boundary checks, truly closing to transfers, moving German, etc.? We're not at WSHS, but all of those things should be common sense. Why is it not "first do no harm" instead of "spread the harm around to as many as possible for poorly thought-out reasons"?

Of course people will be upset about any redistricting that affects them, but it would be MUCH less upsetting if they made a more compelling case that accounts for reality.

To be fair, the vocal people are the ones getting moved or in danger of getting moved that want to stay at the school. There are also LOTS of people who want relief from overcrowding at WS. In fact, one of the first questions was about only reducing WSHS from 112% capacity to 106% capacity and why they weren't able to get it down lower in scenario 4.

They could have gotten it down lower in scenario 4 if they had moved most of HV south of the Parkway to South County like they originally wanted. But then you had HV lobbying to stay at WS, which was granted, so now WSHS stays overcrowded. You can’t have it all - either everyone or most people stay at WS and it stays at 110%+ with trailers in essentially a brand new building, and the level of crowding will last until the large class of current 7th graders graduates. Or areas move out to address the crowding, but the people getting moved out end up at a smaller and more mixed income MS/HS (South County) or at the dreaded 7-12 secondary school (Lake Braddock) which they don’t want, so they lobby to stay.

Don’t forget the “20” kids from Rolling Valley who get moved into WSHS from Lewis to make Sandy Anderson happy. Let’s see how many kids that becomes in a few years.

[Anonymous]

I read that the Town of Vienna is pissed about them moving some residents out of the community school and their governing body issued a statement recently condemning it.

Almost the entire Fairfax community wants to stay where they are. Shame on the school board for engaging in this comprehensive review (with absurd five year cycles) rather than addressing the actually urgent needs (only Coates at the moment).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Why can't they pursue looking at detailed demographic projections at a more granular level, not moving anyone from another pyramid in, doing boundary checks, truly closing to transfers, moving German, etc.? We're not at WSHS, but all of those things should be common sense. Why is it not "first do no harm" instead of "spread the harm around to as many as possible for poorly thought-out reasons"?

Of course people will be upset about any redistricting that affects them, but it would be MUCH less upsetting if they made a more compelling case that accounts for reality.

To be fair, the vocal people are the ones getting moved or in danger of getting moved that want to stay at the school. There are also LOTS of people who want relief from overcrowding at WS. In fact, one of the first questions was about only reducing WSHS from 112% capacity to 106% capacity and why they weren't able to get it down lower in scenario 4.

They could have gotten it down lower in scenario 4 if they had moved most of HV south of the Parkway to South County like they originally wanted. But then you had HV lobbying to stay at WS, which was granted, so now WSHS stays overcrowded. You can’t have it all - either everyone or most people stay at WS and it stays at 110%+ with trailers in essentially a brand new building, and the level of crowding will last until the large class of current 7th graders graduates. Or areas move out to address the crowding, but the people getting moved out end up at a smaller and more mixed income MS/HS (South County) or at the dreaded 7-12 secondary school (Lake Braddock) which they don’t want, so they lobby to stay.

It’s not overcrowded.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The parent who made the bus comment was a white oaks parent. Not Sangster. I heard many people say LBSS is a great school it’s just not the middle school and HS experience they went for their student, which is a valid point. Please don’t lump all of together and make accusations like that.

Neither WO or Sangster parents threw any other neighborhoods under the bus with suggesting they “pick them” instead. I heard overwhelmingly that they consider slowing these decisions down and reexamine data. Perhaps voting on a partial county boundary change to allow more time with accurate data be examined in this area.

Someone is moving. Reid made that very clear. And if it’s not the Sangster split feeder and White Oaks attendance island then it will be West Springfield ES neighborhoods like Daventry, who will get returned to Lewis. Or sending Hunt Valley to Saratoga/Lewis or South County. Or maybe sending more of Orange Hunt to Sangster. Families are getting moved. It’s just a question of which ones.

I think this comment is to stoke the fires and spread more fear. It sounded like the community worked together last night to force more questions on data. I also hope it made Dr.Reid and the board to acknowledge how challenging this process has been for every member of the community.

Sandy Anderson has made it very clear the status quo won’t work. Current WSHS parents complain about overcrowding. SB and FCPS staff don’t care how challenging the process has been. Do you talk to any of them last night after the meeting? They are moving ahead with this. Someone is moving. The question is which neighborhood(s).

Why can't they pursue looking at detailed demographic projections at a more granular level, not moving anyone from another pyramid in, doing boundary checks, truly closing to transfers, moving German, etc.? We're not at WSHS, but all of those things should be common sense. Why is it not "first do no harm" instead of "spread the harm around to as many as possible for poorly thought-out reasons"?

Of course people will be upset about any redistricting that affects them, but it would be MUCH less upsetting if they made a more compelling case that accounts for reality.

To be fair, the vocal people are the ones getting moved or in danger of getting moved that want to stay at the school. There are also LOTS of people who want relief from overcrowding at WS. In fact, one of the first questions was about only reducing WSHS from 112% capacity to 106% capacity and why they weren't able to get it down lower in scenario 4.

They could have gotten it down lower in scenario 4 if they had moved most of HV south of the Parkway to South County like they originally wanted. But then you had HV lobbying to stay at WS, which was granted, so now WSHS stays overcrowded. You can’t have it all - either everyone or most people stay at WS and it stays at 110%+ with trailers in essentially a brand new building, and the level of crowding will last until the large class of current 7th graders graduates. Or areas move out to address the crowding, but the people getting moved out end up at a smaller and more mixed income MS/HS (South County) or at the dreaded 7-12 secondary school (Lake Braddock) which they don’t want, so they lobby to stay.

Don’t forget the “20” kids from Rolling Valley who get moved into WSHS from Lewis to make Sandy Anderson happy. Let’s see how many kids that becomes in a few years.

Your 20 kids thing is getting old. Refocus on not taking kids from Lewis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I read that the Town of Vienna is pissed about them moving some residents out of the community school and their governing body issued a statement recently condemning it.

Almost the entire Fairfax community wants to stay where they are. Shame on the school board for engaging in this comprehensive review (with absurd five year cycles) rather than addressing the actually urgent needs (only Coates at the moment).

None ran for the school board with even a whisper that this was coming. It’s ridiculous.