FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.

WSHS is not over capacity. We just got a renovation - no trailers. I believe it's at or just under capacity. It's predicted to become over capacity by numbers that I don't believe and most of our community doesn't believe. I have a student there and we have no complaints about class size, class room availability, class availability, etc. Except for the parking lot being small, the facility is fantastic and appropriate to the size of the student body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the bad schools got more money than the higher performing schools - wasn't that working?

I bought my house for the school. How much notice will we get so we can sell our house and move? What if my house depreciates because of the newly zoned school???

You have about five months before the hammer comes down. Basically the upcoming spring buying season, but really need to be sold before May 2025.

But no lines have been drawn. It will just be a guessing game for now.

Massive uncertainty for all FCPS children now and continuing every five years in the future. What could go wrong?

Change is the only constant in life. Some may like it, some may not.

Also FCPS should not be concerned about real estate values.

Fairfax County is facing huge budget shortfalls but sure let’s drop property values and thus property tax revenue.

Here's a tip. Maybe they shouldn't give raises to people who are already overpaid for the value they add. I mean Reid in case that isn't clear.

The only property values that would drop would be a home moving from Langley to Herndon. Everyone else would be fine. In a county this big that is a drop in the bucket.

You don't know much about Fairfax County if you think that the only "desired" neighborhood is Great Falls. There are lots of schools that people seek. And, they are not necessarily "elite."

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.

These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

They move there to be close to the river? You're funny. No, most people move there because they were living in DC or Arlington or Old Towne and wanted something bigger with a yard and thought the elementary schools were good then they'd move later. However, they make friends, fall in love with the area and stay. Then some go private or move when it doesn't work out. I used to live there. And no, I don't think most of those families can afford private, although I know some that are now paying for it, because of what FCPS has become.

People love the elementary schools. There is a more positive opinion of West Potomac than you'd expect. It's Sandburg that people hate

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.

WSHS is not over capacity. We just got a renovation - no trailers. I believe it's at or just under capacity. It's predicted to become over capacity by numbers that I don't believe and most of our community doesn't believe. I have a student there and we have no complaints about class size, class room availability, class availability, etc. Except for the parking lot being small, the facility is fantastic and appropriate to the size of the student body.

Facts: the design capacity of WS is 2505. The current enrollment is 2791.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.

WSHS is not over capacity. We just got a renovation - no trailers. I believe it's at or just under capacity. It's predicted to become over capacity by numbers that I don't believe and most of our community doesn't believe. I have a student there and we have no complaints about class size, class room availability, class availability, etc. Except for the parking lot being small, the facility is fantastic and appropriate to the size of the student body.

Maybe you can try to request the school’s design capacity be evaluated. It’s listed as 2,505 and there are 2,791 students. It’s at 110% capacity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.

WSHS is not over capacity. We just got a renovation - no trailers. I believe it's at or just under capacity. It's predicted to become over capacity by numbers that I don't believe and most of our community doesn't believe. I have a student there and we have no complaints about class size, class room availability, class availability, etc. Except for the parking lot being small, the facility is fantastic and appropriate to the size of the student body.

Maybe you can try to request the school’s design capacity be evaluated. It’s listed as 2,505 and there are 2,791 students. It’s at 110% capacity.

How many pupil place into West Springfield?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.

WSHS is not over capacity. We just got a renovation - no trailers. I believe it's at or just under capacity. It's predicted to become over capacity by numbers that I don't believe and most of our community doesn't believe. I have a student there and we have no complaints about class size, class room availability, class availability, etc. Except for the parking lot being small, the facility is fantastic and appropriate to the size of the student body.

Wow. Sounds like some of the biggest inequities in the system relate to facilities. Maybe that’s something FCPS needs a plan to address rather than obsessing over why 17-year-old Hispanic immigrants who arrive with a 3rd-grade education aren’t taking AP or IB courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.

WSHS is not over capacity. We just got a renovation - no trailers. I believe it's at or just under capacity. It's predicted to become over capacity by numbers that I don't believe and most of our community doesn't believe. I have a student there and we have no complaints about class size, class room availability, class availability, etc. Except for the parking lot being small, the facility is fantastic and appropriate to the size of the student body.

Maybe you can try to request the school’s design capacity be evaluated. It’s listed as 2,505 and there are 2,791 students. It’s at 110% capacity.

How many pupil place into West Springfield?

58 pupil place into WSHS, 139 transferred out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.

WSHS is not over capacity. We just got a renovation - no trailers. I believe it's at or just under capacity. It's predicted to become over capacity by numbers that I don't believe and most of our community doesn't believe. I have a student there and we have no complaints about class size, class room availability, class availability, etc. Except for the parking lot being small, the facility is fantastic and appropriate to the size of the student body.

Maybe you can try to request the school’s design capacity be evaluated. It’s listed as 2,505 and there are 2,791 students. It’s at 110% capacity.

How many pupil place into West Springfield?

58 pupil place into WSHS, 139 transferred out.

And of those who pupil placed to WSHs, they were largely from South County and Lake Braddock. Fewer than 10 came from Lewis.

[Anonymous]

If the idea is to raise lower-performing school ratings - what did the research say as to why they are lower performing? Can they not address that problem without creating more problems?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the idea is to raise lower-performing school ratings - what did the research say as to why they are lower performing? Can they not address that problem without creating more problems?

Research shows that once you move past 20% FARMS, the school starts to suffer. Past 40% and the whole student body becomes lower performing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If the idea is to raise lower-performing school ratings - what did the research say as to why they are lower performing? Can they not address that problem without creating more problems?

Research shows that once you move past 20% FARMS, the school starts to suffer. Past 40% and the whole student body becomes lower performing.

So the school board wants to equitize the schools to make them all lower performing? What could go wrong?

[Anonymous]

Herndon High has 291 net transfers out. That’s over 13% off the membership of the school!

[Anonymous]

Looks like some of the redevelopment in Herndon that the Langley poster claims is going to quickly fill up Herndon HS/MS has stalled.

https://www.ffxnow.com/2024/12/10/breaking-comstock-drops-plan-to-redevelop-downtown-herndon/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like some of the redevelopment in Herndon that the Langley poster claims is going to quickly fill up Herndon HS/MS has stalled.

https://www.ffxnow.com/2024/12/10/breaking-comstock-drops-plan-to-redevelop-downtown-herndon/

Actually, that’s not TRG or HTOC or Fairbrooks. Nice try though!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Herndon High has 291 net transfers out. That’s over 13% off the membership of the school!

Is there a link to the CURRENT pupil placement numbers?