FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forest Edge might suit the SB's "equity" requirement, but I doubt most of the families would want to leave the Reston area for a longer bus ride and out of the community.

PP, cont. And, Forest Edge is really not that much closer than Great Falls. Proves that the equity warriors are more interested in moving the checkers than teaching the kids.

You toss that phrase around quite often. Use it enough and it won't have any meaning left.

Actually that’s a different poster, not me. I often use SJW or equity warrior to label people who want to drag all the FCPS schools down to the lowest level.

If Forest Edge gets moved to Langley a lot of those cheaper condos will get snapped up or rented by families who want to stay at Langley. Fcps allows residence shenanigans, a la hayfield scandal, and will allow this back channel opportunity for those families to stay Langley.

Nobody wants to drag everybody down, give me a break.
Everybody wants what is best for their kids.

🙄 well, people can judge for themselves whether the people twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify certain boundary moves are looking to help their kids or hurt certain neighbors based on perceived wealth.

It’s pretty clear to anyone who reads their equity drivel that they aren’t looking out for their kids. Give me a break.

Seriously? It spring pretty simple:

- zoned to a "bad" school? You're hopeful that this may open up opportunities for your kid
- zoned to a "good" school? Don't isn't any ody to touch boundaries



People will "test themselves into.pretzels" to justify whatever benefits themselves and their families best. Not you.

Riddled with errors, but I think your jist is that you want the engaged families to subsidize the disengaged families? Other people’s kids are not your resource.

Omg, thank you so very much for your selfless peer review and my greatest apologies for all the errors as I was typing on my phone. I really hope it wasn't too hard for you to read.
Anyways, just saying everybody is concerned about their families and protecting their kids. Btw, I'm a wshs parent that does not want to be redistricted to Lewis so all your silly assumptions are incorrect. I'm just saying I understand basic instincts

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forest Edge might suit the SB's "equity" requirement, but I doubt most of the families would want to leave the Reston area for a longer bus ride and out of the community.

PP, cont. And, Forest Edge is really not that much closer than Great Falls. Proves that the equity warriors are more interested in moving the checkers than teaching the kids.

You toss that phrase around quite often. Use it enough and it won't have any meaning left.

Actually that’s a different poster, not me. I often use SJW or equity warrior to label people who want to drag all the FCPS schools down to the lowest level.

If Forest Edge gets moved to Langley a lot of those cheaper condos will get snapped up or rented by families who want to stay at Langley. Fcps allows residence shenanigans, a la hayfield scandal, and will allow this back channel opportunity for those families to stay Langley.

Nobody wants to drag everybody down, give me a break.
Everybody wants what is best for their kids.

🙄 well, people can judge for themselves whether the people twisting themselves into pretzels trying to justify certain boundary moves are looking to help their kids or hurt certain neighbors based on perceived wealth.

It’s pretty clear to anyone who reads their equity drivel that they aren’t looking out for their kids. Give me a break.

Who is twisting themselves into pretzels?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the bad schools got more money than the higher performing schools - wasn't that working?

I bought my house for the school. How much notice will we get so we can sell our house and move? What if my house depreciates because of the newly zoned school???

You have about five months before the hammer comes down. Basically the upcoming spring buying season, but really need to be sold before May 2025.

But no lines have been drawn. It will just be a guessing game for now.

Massive uncertainty for all FCPS children now and continuing every five years in the future. What could go wrong?

Change is the only constant in life. Some may like it, some may not.

Also FCPS should not be concerned about real estate values.

Fairfax County is facing huge budget shortfalls but sure let’s drop property values and thus property tax revenue.

Here's a tip. Maybe they shouldn't give raises to people who are already overpaid for the value they add. I mean Reid in case that isn't clear.

The only property values that would drop would be a home moving from Langley to Herndon. Everyone else would be fine. In a county this big that is a drop in the bucket.

You don't know much about Fairfax County if you think that the only "desired" neighborhood is Great Falls. There are lots of schools that people seek. And, they are not necessarily "elite."

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.

These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

[Anonymous]

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the bad schools got more money than the higher performing schools - wasn't that working?

I bought my house for the school. How much notice will we get so we can sell our house and move? What if my house depreciates because of the newly zoned school???

You have about five months before the hammer comes down. Basically the upcoming spring buying season, but really need to be sold before May 2025.

But no lines have been drawn. It will just be a guessing game for now.

Massive uncertainty for all FCPS children now and continuing every five years in the future. What could go wrong?

Change is the only constant in life. Some may like it, some may not.

Also FCPS should not be concerned about real estate values.

Fairfax County is facing huge budget shortfalls but sure let’s drop property values and thus property tax revenue.

Here's a tip. Maybe they shouldn't give raises to people who are already overpaid for the value they add. I mean Reid in case that isn't clear.

The only property values that would drop would be a home moving from Langley to Herndon. Everyone else would be fine. In a county this big that is a drop in the bucket.

You don't know much about Fairfax County if you think that the only "desired" neighborhood is Great Falls. There are lots of schools that people seek. And, they are not necessarily "elite."

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.

From McLean to falls church.

From centreville to Westfield

From chantilly to Westfield.

From McLean to Marshall.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the bad schools got more money than the higher performing schools - wasn't that working?

I bought my house for the school. How much notice will we get so we can sell our house and move? What if my house depreciates because of the newly zoned school???

How much per pupil funding do you think it would take to bring academics at Lewis up to the level of WSHS?

The low-performing schools would need to give students private tutors - so whatever that cost would be.

Sending high-performing students to the low-performing ones is going to be a problem. It will just crowd out the low-performing and bring down the scores in the high-performing.

If you are a high performing student you will still be in your bubble of high performing students relax.

Yeah relax, just let the equity activists mess with your kids’ educations. They promise your kids will be fine. Relax.

They already have.

No novels in middle school, some kids can't read. No homework, some kids have to help around the house and watch younger siblings. No recourse for breaking school rules, some kids have a tough home life.

[Anonymous]

It's not just a matter of "best" or "better" or "worse" schools.

It is a matter of the community ties. So, many families in Fairfax come from other areas. The school ties are important. It's not just a matter of property values or test scores. It is the kids in youth sports, where you shop, etc.

And, they are talking about moving groups out of schools where they have grown up. It will be the kids on the fringes who don't count to the SB.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the bad schools got more money than the higher performing schools - wasn't that working?

I bought my house for the school. How much notice will we get so we can sell our house and move? What if my house depreciates because of the newly zoned school???

You have about five months before the hammer comes down. Basically the upcoming spring buying season, but really need to be sold before May 2025.

But no lines have been drawn. It will just be a guessing game for now.

Massive uncertainty for all FCPS children now and continuing every five years in the future. What could go wrong?

Change is the only constant in life. Some may like it, some may not.

Also FCPS should not be concerned about real estate values.

Fairfax County is facing huge budget shortfalls but sure let’s drop property values and thus property tax revenue.

Here's a tip. Maybe they shouldn't give raises to people who are already overpaid for the value they add. I mean Reid in case that isn't clear.

The only property values that would drop would be a home moving from Langley to Herndon. Everyone else would be fine. In a county this big that is a drop in the bucket.

You don't know much about Fairfax County if you think that the only "desired" neighborhood is Great Falls. There are lots of schools that people seek. And, they are not necessarily "elite."

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.

These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

They move there to be close to the river? You're funny. No, most people move there because they were living in DC or Arlington or Old Towne and wanted something bigger with a yard and thought the elementary schools were good then they'd move later. However, they make friends, fall in love with the area and stay. Then some go private or move when it doesn't work out. I used to live there. And no, I don't think most of those families can afford private, although I know some that are now paying for it, because of what FCPS has become.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just a matter of "best" or "better" or "worse" schools.

It is a matter of the community ties. So, many families in Fairfax come from other areas. The school ties are important. It's not just a matter of property values or test scores. It is the kids in youth sports, where you shop, etc.

And, they are talking about moving groups out of schools where they have grown up. It will be the kids on the fringes who don't count to the SB.

This is so important. I moved my oldest in middle school. She never really recovered and made friends like my younger children did. It's really hard to break into friend groups that were established in early elementary or even before.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the bad schools got more money than the higher performing schools - wasn't that working?

I bought my house for the school. How much notice will we get so we can sell our house and move? What if my house depreciates because of the newly zoned school???

You have about five months before the hammer comes down. Basically the upcoming spring buying season, but really need to be sold before May 2025.

But no lines have been drawn. It will just be a guessing game for now.

Massive uncertainty for all FCPS children now and continuing every five years in the future. What could go wrong?

Change is the only constant in life. Some may like it, some may not.

Also FCPS should not be concerned about real estate values.

Fairfax County is facing huge budget shortfalls but sure let’s drop property values and thus property tax revenue.

Here's a tip. Maybe they shouldn't give raises to people who are already overpaid for the value they add. I mean Reid in case that isn't clear.

The only property values that would drop would be a home moving from Langley to Herndon. Everyone else would be fine. In a county this big that is a drop in the bucket.

You don't know much about Fairfax County if you think that the only "desired" neighborhood is Great Falls. There are lots of schools that people seek. And, they are not necessarily "elite."

I actually know it pretty well. Well enough to know large swings in property value are not happening in neighborhoods next to each other. Your school is not that important unless your talking about Langley or McLean.

It happened to Daventry when they were rezoned from Lee/Lewis to WSHS.

Overnight.

Whoever gets rezoned back the other way will lose equity just as quickly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought the bad schools got more money than the higher performing schools - wasn't that working?

I bought my house for the school. How much notice will we get so we can sell our house and move? What if my house depreciates because of the newly zoned school???

You have about five months before the hammer comes down. Basically the upcoming spring buying season, but really need to be sold before May 2025.

But no lines have been drawn. It will just be a guessing game for now.

Massive uncertainty for all FCPS children now and continuing every five years in the future. What could go wrong?

Change is the only constant in life. Some may like it, some may not.

Also FCPS should not be concerned about real estate values.

Fairfax County is facing huge budget shortfalls but sure let’s drop property values and thus property tax revenue.

Here's a tip. Maybe they shouldn't give raises to people who are already overpaid for the value they add. I mean Reid in case that isn't clear.

The only property values that would drop would be a home moving from Langley to Herndon. Everyone else would be fine. In a county this big that is a drop in the bucket.

You don't know much about Fairfax County if you think that the only "desired" neighborhood is Great Falls. There are lots of schools that people seek. And, they are not necessarily "elite."

I actually know it pretty well. Well enough to know large swings in property value are not happening in neighborhoods next to each other. Your school is not that important unless your talking about Langley or McLean.

It happened to Daventry when they were rezoned from Lee/Lewis to WSHS.

Overnight.

Whoever gets rezoned back the other way will lose equity just as quickly.

Homes comparable to Daventry in the Lewis district are similarly priced now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

A home moving from West Potomac to Mount Vernon.

From Madison to South Lakes

From Madison to Oakton (small difference but there is one)

From Oakton to Fairfax

From Woodson to Falls Church.

I’m sure there’s more.


These would not drop home values. For example no one moves to the West Potomac district for the high school. They move there because it's close to the river. Most of those families could afford private anyway.

Ask yourself: why do realtors list the schools? And, believe me, there are lots more than those listed.

There is a talking point that the equity activists like to pretend is true - that families choose homes solely because they are Fairfax county, rather than choosing specific school pyramids. We all know that is contrary to all evidence.

Can’t really have it both ways. Are there underperforming schools that need fixing or are all the schools great and everyone considers them fungible?

Everyone I know who moved into WSHS as a renter signed their lease sight unseen because the house was zoned for WSHS.

And all the supposed justifications are now falling apart. Transportation time justification was a mirage based on a faulty inapplicable study, capacity analysis is out of reach due to faulty projections that don’t considered most residential development.

It is sad to see the damage they are doing to the school system.

WSHS and Edison are still over capacity and Lewis is still under capacity. That is the fact now and for the foreseeable future unless students are moved. That could certainly include closing down pupil placements but you have to convince the county to shut that down.