Johnny Depp trial in Fairfax County

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the TMZ guy was really strong for Depp when he said that somebody tipped them off that Amber was going to file the TRO and was supposed to "turn to the camera" to show an alleged bruise on her face.

Was there evidence that he even came to the penthouse within days of her filing for the TRO?

Exactly. Between him and the digital photo detective it shows how she planned and planted evidence to make it look like she was abused.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s not the vileness of his emails. It’s the combination of him saying phone at the bar, oh there’s a phone at the bar. Vodka bottles with handles, no handles with the shards, never told anyone to fire amber, oh yeah, I told wb and my sister I wanted her fired, never had the hubris to write that I take women when I want, oh that’s a doctored email to my assistant.

He came off as not credible or reliable.

She had a bad day, too. But his cross was Effectively done today.

Over on twitter it's noted that the texts he didn't recognize were actually incoming, meaning he received them.

Won’t matter. He said enough things today that made him appear unreliable that cherry picking one that may not apply won’t negate the overall damage from today.

I feel like supporters of both sides cherry pick testimony. The question is will the jury believe AH has lied and fabricated enough that it is hard to believe anything she has said.

I’m not on either side. I think they both have credibility problems. The main question is did he or did he not assault her. She wins if he did. I think she has proven that he did BUT her credibility problems may get in her way as far as not getting the majority of the jury on her side.

Agree with this, but the witnesses that saw bruises on her face (including the marriage counselor who alleged mutual abuse) support her story being "substantially true" (the London case language). I also think his unbelievably immature comportment and snickering, plus the vicious texts, give a lot of insight into who he really is and severely undermine his claiming victim status.

This is part of my problem. This sounds like someone who wants to side with AH for whatever reason. It circles back to her lies. "Substantially true" means that what she said isn't entirely true. She exaggerates, she lies. And I don't like either one of them. Basically, they both feel like train wrecks.

Substantially true sounds to be that there is some wiggle room for jurors to believe there is an element of reasonable doubt.

Reasonable doubt isn’t the standard for a civil trial.

Substantial truth, under libel law, means minor inaccuracies do not make a statement libelous if the essence or gist of the statement is true.

So for instance, if I said you punched me 12 times and it turns out you only punched me 8 times, the gist (that you punched me) is still true and my statement is substantially true.

Okay?

People were acting like the judge in the UK case was somehow pro Hears because that's the ohrase he was using. And nope, he was just reciting the legal standard.

I have no idea how that’s supposed to be responsive to my post about reasonable doubt not being the standard in civil trials.

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Anonymous wrote:The email below is included in video. I shortened the video to include only Heard attorney rebuttal for those who prefer to judge for themselves. It’s worth watching the 37 minutes.

That's a really disgusting email.

It is. It's horrible. However being the survivor of domestic abuse I can only fathom how I would've felt if my abuser had started claiming and campaigning that they were the one who was abused by me. Granted I probably wouldn't use such colorful language, I most likely would've thought and felt the same way as Johnny.

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Anonymous wrote:The email below is included in video. I shortened the video to include only Heard attorney rebuttal for those who prefer to judge for themselves. It’s worth watching the 37 minutes.

That's a really disgusting email.

It is. It's horrible. However being the survivor of domestic abuse I can only fathom how I would've felt if my abuser had started claiming and campaigning that they were the one who was abused by me. Granted I probably wouldn't use such colorful language, I most likely would've thought and felt the same way as Johnny.

I'm asking seriously, but do you think your view of the evidence and trial is colored by your experiences? I don't know how any reasonable person could view the evidence against Heard and think she's a victim. There was definitely mutual abuse...but she seems to be the instigator often. There was very clear evidence today she punched JD in the face and gave him a black eye, doctored photographs, and alerted the media to make JD look guilty (e.g. sent cabinet video to TMZ).

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Anonymous wrote:The email below is included in video. I shortened the video to include only Heard attorney rebuttal for those who prefer to judge for themselves. It’s worth watching the 37 minutes.

That's a really disgusting email.

But we're okay that Heard gave JD a black eye in the photo?

I'm really concerned by the double standards here. If that were AH with a black eye in that picture, there'd be outrage.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anything Amber Heard has said at this point that hasn’t been proven to be a lie during this trial? Doctoring the photos? That was the crux of her hard evidence, wasn’t it?

Watch the video and read text from Depp @19:34. You all seem to be forgetting that this is not a domestic violence case. Depp filed a defamation suit against Heard. This is a civil case and jurors will deliberate and come to a verdict based on Depp’s claim that Heard’s Op Ed (in which he was not named) caused him to lose jobs and income. It’s already been established by multiple testimonies that he was on the decline way before the Op Ed. As his former 30 year agent said, “his star had already dimmed” due to his many issues. Fan girls cryin’ in the club is getting really lame in this thread. If you’re talking trash, take a look at the Depp team. You seem to be very jealous of Heard’s beauty and composure. Depp was emasculated by her. She fought back.

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Anonymous wrote:I thought the TMZ guy was really strong for Depp when he said that somebody tipped them off that Amber was going to file the TRO and was supposed to "turn to the camera" to show an alleged bruise on her face.

Was there evidence that he even came to the penthouse within days of her filing for the TRO?

Exactly. Between him and the digital photo detective it shows how she planned and planted evidence to make it look like she was abused.

It was the same photo submitted as two separate photos. Then he merged them into one, they were the same! AH has been lying since day one and even lying to the court.

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Anonymous wrote:The email below is included in video. I shortened the video to include only Heard attorney rebuttal for those who prefer to judge for themselves. It’s worth watching the 37 minutes.

That's a really disgusting email.

It is. It's horrible. However being the survivor of domestic abuse I can only fathom how I would've felt if my abuser had started claiming and campaigning that they were the one who was abused by me. Granted I probably wouldn't use such colorful language, I most likely would've thought and felt the same way as Johnny.

Oh, sweetie, you are so full of shit.

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Anonymous wrote:The email below is included in video. I shortened the video to include only Heard attorney rebuttal for those who prefer to judge for themselves. It’s worth watching the 37 minutes.

Oh please, let's all start sharing videos we found on you tube

The video is from the live trial today. That is in fact Johnny Depp who is lying through his teeth. Maybe you should get your facts from the source rather than Tik Tok.

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Anonymous wrote:The email below is included in video. I shortened the video to include only Heard attorney rebuttal for those who prefer to judge for themselves. It’s worth watching the 37 minutes.

Oh please, let's all start sharing videos we found on you tube

The video is from the live trial today. That is in fact Johnny Depp who is lying through his teeth. Maybe you should get your facts from the source rather than Tik Tok.

Johnny stans don't want to face the truth about his vile behavior and lies.

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Anonymous wrote:The email below is included in video. I shortened the video to include only Heard attorney rebuttal for those who prefer to judge for themselves. It’s worth watching the 37 minutes.

Oh please, let's all start sharing videos we found on you tube

The video is from the live trial today. That is in fact Johnny Depp who is lying through his teeth. Maybe you should get your facts from the source rather than Tik Tok.

Nah, pp would rather hold onto her sad fantasy that poor Johnny is such a victim and would totally want to f#ck pp is he only knew how much she understood him.

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Anonymous wrote:Is there anything Amber Heard has said at this point that hasn’t been proven to be a lie during this trial? Doctoring the photos? That was the crux of her hard evidence, wasn’t it?

Watch the video and read text from Depp @19:34. You all seem to be forgetting that this is not a domestic violence case. Depp filed a defamation suit against Heard. This is a civil case and jurors will deliberate and come to a verdict based on Depp’s claim that Heard’s Op Ed (in which he was not named) caused him to lose jobs and income. It’s already been established by multiple testimonies that he was on the decline way before the Op Ed. As his former 30 year agent said, “his star had already dimmed” due to his many issues. Fan girls cryin’ in the club is getting really lame in this thread. If you’re talking trash, take a look at the Depp team. You seem to be very jealous of Heard’s beauty and composure. Depp was emasculated by her. She fought back.

Well, DV is a huge part of the case bc if she can prove that what she said in the op Ed was true, it’s an absolute defense to defamation.

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can the jury not find neither the claim nor the counter claim persuasive and award neither of them anything?

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Depp’s cross today suggested he already had the black eye before he met up with Heard on the train. But I know you guys don’t pay attention to anything damaging about him during the trial.

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Anonymous wrote:can the jury not find neither the claim nor the counter claim persuasive and award neither of them anything?

Yes this is a possible outcome, her case is more likely to be decided favorably if he loses though by the nature of it