Rest In Peace Meritocracy

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just between us gals, if he was another race, do you think the results would have been different?

No he had bad ECs. You need to do more than school activities if you want a spot. His profile was not interesting to top schools which is why he was shut out. He was a regular smart kids who was a good test taker.

didn't he play an instrument for 10 years? that is hardly nothing.

also these comments that the rest of his application must have been lacking are so dumb. a kid that bright knows how to play the game.

Its NOTHING. kids who get in play an instrument at a national or regional level. No one cares some old lady came to your house and taught you violin or you went to a local music shop. Ivies want violinist who can play for symphonies and athletes who can play on their teams (travel and national players). A high school varsity player probably can't even make an intramural team! So now the kid is trying to get in based on original creation (not published in a regional or national publication) (not creating any sort of great community good or performance) or original thought ( has not discovered anything0. For stem you are competing against intel scholars, kids coding for tech start ups and the like. Again he was a smart regular kid according to his video. Many kids with the same stats have done more and those are the ones that get in-- they have had an impact on the wider community.

This is just a dumb statement.

The vast majority of students do not need to play musical instruments at a national level on top of a 1590 SAT and 800s in Math and Physics with a very high GPA with a rigorous curriculum, to get into a school like Dartmouth or Cornell.

The vast majority of students at Dartmouth and Cornell are not freaking Carnegie Hall-level musicians nor Olympics athletes

But unfortunately if you are Asian, you apparently have to be.

If you really want to throw a pity party for this student we need to know what classes took and how he performed, what HS he attended, where he lives, and what the rest of his application looked like. He does not get for few seconds of complaining on tik tok.

11 APs, did you not watch the 5-10 second tik tok?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Meritocracy is a mummy now. The brains were pulled out from the nostrils and put in an urn, long before you realized that Meritocracy died.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just between us gals, if he was another race, do you think the results would have been different?

No he had bad ECs. You need to do more than school activities if you want a spot. His profile was not interesting to top schools which is why he was shut out. He was a regular smart kids who was a good test taker.

didn't he play an instrument for 10 years? that is hardly nothing.

also these comments that the rest of his application must have been lacking are so dumb. a kid that bright knows how to play the game.

Its NOTHING. kids who get in play an instrument at a national or regional level. No one cares some old lady came to your house and taught you violin or you went to a local music shop. Ivies want violinist who can play for symphonies and athletes who can play on their teams (travel and national players). A high school varsity player probably can't even make an intramural team! So now the kid is trying to get in based on original creation (not published in a regional or national publication) (not creating any sort of great community good or performance) or original thought ( has not discovered anything0. For stem you are competing against intel scholars, kids coding for tech start ups and the like. Again he was a smart regular kid according to his video. Many kids with the same stats have done more and those are the ones that get in-- they have had an impact on the wider community.

This is just a dumb statement.

The vast majority of students do not need to play musical instruments at a national level on top of a 1590 SAT and 800s in Math and Physics with a very high GPA with a rigorous curriculum, to get into a school like Dartmouth or Cornell.



The vast majority of students at Dartmouth and Cornell are not freaking Carnegie Hall-level musicians nor Olympics athletes

But unfortunately if you are Asian, you apparently have to be.

The vast majority of students at HPY fit into some box or they would be rejected. They are not regular kids that score high. If you spent time talking to admitted students you would realize that students typically have something special beyond high scores. (Other kids are not in a position to judge and may not have knowledge of out of school activities.)

Something special beyond high scores as in donor and legacy parents?

Dartmouth and Cornell are not HPY. Not sure if you know what that abbreviation stands for.

Sorry you did not actually find out about how to get in and thought that high scores was all that was needed. Half of Cornell is a NYS school so its a little different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just between us gals, if he was another race, do you think the results would have been different?

No he had bad ECs. You need to do more than school activities if you want a spot. His profile was not interesting to top schools which is why he was shut out. He was a regular smart kids who was a good test taker.

didn't he play an instrument for 10 years? that is hardly nothing.

also these comments that the rest of his application must have been lacking are so dumb. a kid that bright knows how to play the game.

Its NOTHING. kids who get in play an instrument at a national or regional level. No one cares some old lady came to your house and taught you violin or you went to a local music shop. Ivies want violinist who can play for symphonies and athletes who can play on their teams (travel and national players). A high school varsity player probably can't even make an intramural team! So now the kid is trying to get in based on original creation (not published in a regional or national publication) (not creating any sort of great community good or performance) or original thought ( has not discovered anything0. For stem you are competing against intel scholars, kids coding for tech start ups and the like. Again he was a smart regular kid according to his video. Many kids with the same stats have done more and those are the ones that get in-- they have had an impact on the wider community.

This is just a dumb statement.

The vast majority of students do not need to play musical instruments at a national level on top of a 1590 SAT and 800s in Math and Physics with a very high GPA with a rigorous curriculum, to get into a school like Dartmouth or Cornell.



The vast majority of students at Dartmouth and Cornell are not freaking Carnegie Hall-level musicians nor Olympics athletes

But unfortunately if you are Asian, you apparently have to be.

The vast majority of students at HPY fit into some box or they would be rejected. They are not regular kids that score high. If you spent time talking to admitted students you would realize that students typically have something special beyond high scores. (Other kids are not in a position to judge and may not have knowledge of out of school activities.)

Something special beyond high scores as in donor and legacy parents?

Dartmouth and Cornell are not HPY. Not sure if you know what that abbreviation stands for.

Sorry you did not actually find out about how to get in and thought that high scores was all that was needed. Half of Cornell is a NYS school so its a little different.

Yes, everyone knows HYP and other Ivies like Dartmouth put a very heavy premium on donors and legacies, more so than stats, honey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just between us gals, if he was another race, do you think the results would have been different?

No he had bad ECs. You need to do more than school activities if you want a spot. His profile was not interesting to top schools which is why he was shut out. He was a regular smart kids who was a good test taker.

didn't he play an instrument for 10 years? that is hardly nothing.

also these comments that the rest of his application must have been lacking are so dumb. a kid that bright knows how to play the game.

Its NOTHING. kids who get in play an instrument at a national or regional level. No one cares some old lady came to your house and taught you violin or you went to a local music shop. Ivies want violinist who can play for symphonies and athletes who can play on their teams (travel and national players). A high school varsity player probably can't even make an intramural team! So now the kid is trying to get in based on original creation (not published in a regional or national publication) (not creating any sort of great community good or performance) or original thought ( has not discovered anything0. For stem you are competing against intel scholars, kids coding for tech start ups and the like. Again he was a smart regular kid according to his video. Many kids with the same stats have done more and those are the ones that get in-- they have had an impact on the wider community.

This is just a dumb statement.

The vast majority of students do not need to play musical instruments at a national level on top of a 1590 SAT and 800s in Math and Physics with a very high GPA with a rigorous curriculum, to get into a school like Dartmouth or Cornell.



The vast majority of students at Dartmouth and Cornell are not freaking Carnegie Hall-level musicians nor Olympics athletes

But unfortunately if you are Asian, you apparently have to be.

The vast majority of students at HPY fit into some box or they would be rejected. They are not regular kids that score high. If you spent time talking to admitted students you would realize that students typically have something special beyond high scores. (Other kids are not in a position to judge and may not have knowledge of out of school activities.)

Something special beyond high scores as in donor and legacy parents?

Dartmouth and Cornell are not HPY. Not sure if you know what that abbreviation stands for.

Sorry you did not actually find out about how to get in and thought that high scores was all that was needed. Half of Cornell is a NYS school so its a little different.

Yes, having your daddy donate a building is whats needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one should be surprised by his results, even in a non-COVID year. My kid with a perfect SAT score and three perfect subject test scores etc. only applied to three tippy top schools a few years ago and expected to get rejected, and she did, along with every single other high stats, high rigor, non-hooked kid we know. And she and some of them had some really high level and interesting ECs. Playing violin for 10 years isn’t going to excite a school if you are recruited for the orchestra nor is varsity or club volleyball if you are not recruited to play.

I’m not sure why anyone thinks high stats are synonymous with merit. Nothing in the list he presented should have made him or anyone else think admissions to any of those top 10 schools was remotely likely to happen, because he had nothing special from their perspective to distinguish himself from all the other bright kids who applied. It makes me sad that he didn’t realize this. Tons of great SLACs or top 40 schools would have been delighted to have him.

How do you know that he did not distinguish himself. This is the fuzzy logic sick racists use to discriminate against Asian-Americans. Oh, he must not have a personality or something to distinguish himself...oh, he must be a boring person with no original thought...oh, he only has book knowledge. Meanwhile your ilk produces as asshat like Donald Trump.

He is special. More special than all those hooked individuals who are given admission in the top schools who have nothing of substance to show for themselves.

DP.
You sound truly unhinged. Why are you bringing Trump into this at all? Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charlie, my kid will see you in UMD. Similar stats...+ he is Asian American male like you too. Congrats on getting UMD because all of you high stat Asian-American kids have made it a powerhouse where STEM majors are concerned. Will you be super successful in life? Absolutely.

Both of you keep safe and remember this is the beginning of your life and yes, the racism inherent in college and work place was not just something your parents faced. USA is not even pretending to be egalitarian and fair.

Umd is a great education but that is ridiculous to say that this student could not have had many more acceptances if his application list had been more realistic.

If he is going for CS or Engineering...he made the right choice to go in-state (I am guessing here that he is an MD student) because how highly ranked UMD is for these two majors. Try for Ivies and know that it is a crapshoot and then also apply in-state for MD and get a free education. Well done, Charlie!

And no point in doing majors that does not get you a high paying job. He maximized his education dollars. Good for him. And while this was put in tiktok by him, I can bet that he was very aware that while he was an Ivy-level kid who was going to UMD, he was always going to be successful. Regardless of if Ivy rejected him because of racism, this kid is going to UMD with the best credentials. That is a mark of the candidate. I say this is Harvard's loss.

I also think that it is about time that the Asian-Americans realize the kinds of racism they are facing in USA. This is a valuable lesson for Charlie and my kid. Watch, experience and learn the reality of this country and society.

WTF? “Racism”?? Plenty of white students with those stats were rejected from Ivies as well. Not everything is about “racism.” You must be exhausting to be around.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You know, there is something we all can do to revive meritocracy. You know where the smart kids are these days, so when it’s time to recruit on campus, bypass HYP et al. When you get a stack of resumes, ignore the brand names, be on the lookout for the brilliant kids who ended up at state schools. Let the different pipelines and networks develop.

Charlie will be in a position to recruit people one day. Great strides are being made by Asian-Americans every day. There is a reason why people are jealous and targeting Asian-Americans nowadays. Asians voted for Biden and the votes shifted to Democrats. We are becoming a voice. Still a faint voice but there is enough anger in my community.

Get a life. Truly. Your victim mentality is not only fake, but also a terrible look.

[Anonymous]

Y’all realize that the only reason you even give a shit about these schools is BECAUSE they reject lots of people, right? I would like to see the actual data proving that a student receives an inherently better undergraduate education at Harvard then at their state flagship...

I bet you all think the Birkin bags and other such rich people nonsense products are actually “superior” and “worth the premium” too...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just between us gals, if he was another race, do you think the results would have been different?

No he had bad ECs. You need to do more than school activities if you want a spot. His profile was not interesting to top schools which is why he was shut out. He was a regular smart kids who was a good test taker.

didn't he play an instrument for 10 years? that is hardly nothing.

also these comments that the rest of his application must have been lacking are so dumb. a kid that bright knows how to play the game.

Its NOTHING. kids who get in play an instrument at a national or regional level. No one cares some old lady came to your house and taught you violin or you went to a local music shop. Ivies want violinist who can play for symphonies and athletes who can play on their teams (travel and national players). A high school varsity player probably can't even make an intramural team! So now the kid is trying to get in based on original creation (not published in a regional or national publication) (not creating any sort of great community good or performance) or original thought ( has not discovered anything0. For stem you are competing against intel scholars, kids coding for tech start ups and the like. Again he was a smart regular kid according to his video. Many kids with the same stats have done more and those are the ones that get in-- they have had an impact on the wider community.

This is just a dumb statement.

The vast majority of students do not need to play musical instruments at a national level on top of a 1590 SAT and 800s in Math and Physics with a very high GPA with a rigorous curriculum, to get into a school like Dartmouth or Cornell.



The vast majority of students at Dartmouth and Cornell are not freaking Carnegie Hall-level musicians nor Olympics athletes

But unfortunately if you are Asian, you apparently have to be.

The vast majority of students at HPY fit into some box or they would be rejected. They are not regular kids that score high. If you spent time talking to admitted students you would realize that students typically have something special beyond high scores. (Other kids are not in a position to judge and may not have knowledge of out of school activities.)

Something special beyond high scores as in donor and legacy parents?

Dartmouth and Cornell are not HPY. Not sure if you know what that abbreviation stands for.

Sorry you did not actually find out about how to get in and thought that high scores was all that was needed. Half of Cornell is a NYS school so its a little different.

Yes, having your daddy donate a building is whats needed.

Well I am glad you know its your fault for not making enough to donate a building. So it's all solved you know what to do to get your kid into the college of your dreams. It is so simple. No need to claim race because money works for any race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Y’all realize that the only reason you even give a shit about these schools is BECAUSE they reject lots of people, right? I would like to see the actual data proving that a student receives an inherently better undergraduate education at Harvard then at their state flagship...

I bet you all think the Birkin bags and other such rich people nonsense products are actually “superior” and “worth the premium” too...

And before someone mentions it, of course I meant “than”...

[Anonymous]

Considering the spelling mistakes in his TikTok, I wonder what his applications looked like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just found out a truly average kid from my kids mcps high school got into Columbia! No scores either!

Obviously, they are not “truly average.” It’s amazing that some parents presume to know everything other kids - including their scores, grades, writing ability, ECs, and life outside of school. You know nothing about any kid, other than your own. Stay in your lane, busybody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just between us gals, if he was another race, do you think the results would have been different?

Of course not. Look at all the white kids with those stats who were rejected from the same schools. “Racism” is such a lazy excuse.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have not explained how this case is an example of discrimination.

And you have not explained how it is.