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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


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Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.
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Anonymous wrote:I thought the main actress was odd looking. Like a cross between Emma Stone and Marty Feldman....


Ha - true! She’s a very unusual looking person. Sometimes she can look beautiful, and other times quite the opposite.
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


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Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.



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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


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Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.





Do you have a single example of the genius orphan like Beth? It's telling that you don't. They could have written the same thing *but they didn't* therein lies the difference. Open your mind and perhaps read what's been linked here. If you post something to the contrary I will read it.
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.





After teaching for 36 years plus, I've come to realize that many girls are on the spectrum and it just looks very different than boys. There wasn't even a category years ago that would produce a label for this girl. I wouldn't call it high functioning or low functioning per se, just somewhere on the spectrum.
Girls mask better (the clothes), adapt a little better (pick up social clues, but after the fact) which hides a lot of it, but yes, this character is on the spectrum and really explains her story line and savant like chess skill. It isn't only the chess skill, it's her relationships with others, even before the death of her mother, the pills, etc. Slam dunk dx.
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.





Do you have a single example of the genius orphan like Beth? It's telling that you don't. They could have written the same thing *but they didn't* therein lies the difference. Open your mind and perhaps read what's been linked here. If you post something to the contrary I will read it.


Uh. It was a snarky comment because how many geniuses do we have in orphaned these days...

The point stands about autism. People see what they want to see AKA confirmation bias.
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.





After teaching for 36 years plus, I've come to realize that many girls are on the spectrum and it just looks very different than boys. There wasn't even a category years ago that would produce a label for this girl. I wouldn't call it high functioning or low functioning per se, just somewhere on the spectrum.
Girls mask better (the clothes), adapt a little better (pick up social clues, but after the fact) which hides a lot of it, but yes, this character is on the spectrum and really explains her story line and savant like chess skill. It isn't only the chess skill, it's her relationships with others, even before the death of her mother, the pills, etc. Slam dunk dx.


Please explain this point. What relationships? What specifically did she do in those relationships?


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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.





Do you have a single example of the genius orphan like Beth? It's telling that you don't. They could have written the same thing *but they didn't* therein lies the difference. Open your mind and perhaps read what's been linked here. If you post something to the contrary I will read it.


Uh. It was a snarky comment because how many geniuses do we have in orphaned these days...

The point stands about autism. People see what they want to see AKA confirmation bias.


Got it. You have nothing to back up your ill informed opinion. That's been obivous all along.
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.





Do you have a single example of the genius orphan like Beth? It's telling that you don't. They could have written the same thing *but they didn't* therein lies the difference. Open your mind and perhaps read what's been linked here. If you post something to the contrary I will read it.


Uh. It was a snarky comment because how many geniuses do we have in orphaned these days...

The point stands about autism. People see what they want to see AKA confirmation bias.


Got it. You have nothing to back up your ill informed opinion. That's been obivous all along.


You honestly think there are a bunch of geniuses who grew up in orphanages running around these days?

Ouch. Sounds like confirmation bias is a tough pull for you to swallow.


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And there are multiple people posting BTW...
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.


OMG. Do you even hear yourself?
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You guys realize she’s not real right? You’re arguing about a fake person.
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.





Do you have a single example of the genius orphan like Beth? It's telling that you don't. They could have written the same thing *but they didn't* therein lies the difference. Open your mind and perhaps read what's been linked here. If you post something to the contrary I will read it.


Uh. It was a snarky comment because how many geniuses do we have in orphaned these days...

The point stands about autism. People see what they want to see AKA confirmation bias.


Got it. You have nothing to back up your ill informed opinion. That's been obivous all along.


+1
That poster is extremely defensive for some reason.
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Anonymous wrote:You guys realize she’s not real right? You’re arguing about a fake person.


Yes, of course.
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Anonymous wrote:For those critical of Beth or the actress playing her, this article outlines what may be going on - consider that Beth is autistic. This would explain both the acting and the choices Beth makes and situations she doesn’t totally react as you might think is more believable. I think Anya Taylor-Joy was brilliant.

https://valneil.com/2020/10/30/accidentally-autistic-the-queens-gambit/


No. She is like the way she is because she had a traumatic childhood, is a genius, and battles a drug and alcohol addiction. Why can't girls be brilliant and not be labeled? When she has the chance to go to a normal school, she realizes she doesn't have the right clothes. She immediately picks up those social cues that girls are staring at her ugly clothes. When she has money she buys the most amazing outfits. When she is asked how old she is at the orphanage and is about to say 15, the orphanage director pipes up that she is 13. Beth is socially savvy enough to realize adoptive parents prefer younger kids so she says she is 13. She becomes addicted to tranquilzers before she is 10. The actress who plays Beth actually lived for the first 6 or 7 years in Argentina and then moved to England where she learned English. I think any quirkiness in her speech is due to her pausing for a split second to think in English and speak like and American. It isn't because she is acting like a woman with autism.


Agree. It’s annoying that PPs assume a he’s autistic just because she’s smart and doesn’t like the nitwits in her HS.


Totally agree! It is so trite to want to label a smart + unique girl.


So labeling her as a trauma victim is so different? Why are people acting like autism is a dirty word? Plenty of people are brilliant and on the spectrum. Its obvious Beth is too.


+100
Which is why several people *with autism* have written articles about exactly that - Beth clearly shows signs of being HFA. These articles have already been linked in this thread, so I won’t repeat them. But it’s very telling that autistic people agree she was depicted as such.


And the genius people who grew up in orphanages could have written their own articles claiming the same. It’s called confirmation bias.


OMG. Do you even hear yourself?


She just learned about confirmation bias in her Psych 101 class so she's going to use it as often as possible to make her sound smarter than she is.
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