Colleges that reopened and are shutting down

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

I presume you feel the same way about sororities too? Or is it just evil men who are the problem?

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Anonymous wrote:Ohio State has 882 cases. They added over 800 new cases in one week. They are holding steady on percent % on campus— but are at almost 10% positive off campus. Double a few days ago.

In response Ohio State has asked their students to take COIVD seriously, mask and social distance. Please. If you don’t mind.

What an innovative request. I’m sure no school has thought of that yet.

NP. Yep. The problem is that these have been "requests" and colleges are "asking" students to follow protocols. It's too late now for most schools, of course, but they should have (and still can) require masks, require distancing, etc. They would have to do the one thing they're scared to do: Enforce. They're scared parents will rebel because the parents will say how they pay big bucks for college and colleges can't tell their supposed "adult" children what to do, but can only ask. Sorry, if my adult college student isn't following the rules I welcome her being called out, and if she won't comply, sent home.

Many of the colleges had the students sign a contract agreeing to certain conditions before returning to campus. Dartmouth’s contract even says they agree to take a vaccine if one is approved by both the FDA and the school.

God, I hope they don't force students to take an untested Trump vaccine.

Agreed! This is being pushed out way too fast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gap year isn't looking like such a bad option after all!

Most schools are still on. You just aren't hearing about them. My daughter's college is hybrid with in person once a week, online the other day. Labs and conferences in person. Been there 3 weeks and only 5 cases total and already contained. Each student gets tested twice a week. She is loving it.

Gap year to travel? Nope
Gap year to intern? Nope
Gap year to work as an essential employee? Sure, but you are just as likely to get COVID

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

I presume you feel the same way about sororities too? Or is it just evil men who are the problem?

Sororities may also have some issues with binge drinking, but women and men bond in different ways. Men love to get competitive, trying to out drink each other or prove how macho they are through engaging in risky behavior. Rape is generally a male thing because they are stronger and can overpower women.

In sororities, women bond by making cutesie little signs and gifts for each other, or sending each other on little scavenger hunts, or embarrassing their pledges by making them sing the sorority song in a public place or dressing up in a goofy outfit.

These are certainly generalizations and there are many exceptions to be found, but I can’t recall ever hearing about a death due to sororities going overboard in their hazing.

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

I presume you feel the same way about sororities too? Or is it just evil men who are the problem?

Sororities may also have some issues with binge drinking, but women and men bond in different ways. Men love to get competitive, trying to out drink each other or prove how macho they are through engaging in risky behavior. Rape is generally a male thing because they are stronger and can overpower women.

In sororities, women bond by making cutesie little signs and gifts for each other, or sending each other on little scavenger hunts, or embarrassing their pledges by making them sing the sorority song in a public place or dressing up in a goofy outfit.

These are certainly generalizations and there are many exceptions to be found, but I can’t recall ever hearing about a death due to sororities going overboard in their hazing.

Np. My daughter is in a sorority. The only “hazing“ rumors she has heard about her school are things like asking girls to lose weight, go out every night for the first week, etc. The school considers any request of all pledges to be hazing...even asking frat pledges to mop a floor.

[Anonymous]

The cutesie things in sororities are for freshman girls rushing. They were in HS just months previous. There are a large number of professional women who were in sororities in college. They are more grown up second year. By graduation they are not cutesie anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

I presume you feel the same way about sororities too? Or is it just evil men who are the problem?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2726649/

[Anonymous]

Greek life puts kids in increased danger. There are HUNDREDS of articles that show that.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2430938/

But we should probably get this thread back on tract.

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Anonymous wrote:Ohio State has 882 cases. They added over 800 new cases in one week. They are holding steady on percent % on campus— but are at almost 10% positive off campus. Double a few days ago.

In response Ohio State has asked their students to take COIVD seriously, mask and social distance. Please. If you don’t mind.

What an innovative request. I’m sure no school has thought of that yet.

NP. Yep. The problem is that these have been "requests" and colleges are "asking" students to follow protocols. It's too late now for most schools, of course, but they should have (and still can) require masks, require distancing, etc. They would have to do the one thing they're scared to do: Enforce. They're scared parents will rebel because the parents will say how they pay big bucks for college and colleges can't tell their supposed "adult" children what to do, but can only ask. Sorry, if my adult college student isn't following the rules I welcome her being called out, and if she won't comply, sent home.

Many of the colleges had the students sign a contract agreeing to certain conditions before returning to campus. Dartmouth’s contract even says they agree to take a vaccine if one is approved by both the FDA and the school.

God, I hope they don't force students to take an untested Trump vaccine.

Agreed! This is being pushed out way too fast.

It’s not a “Trump vaccine” you idiots. It is an Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine. And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM. But hey, keep hiding in your urban farmhouses and don’t get the vaccine to score stupid political points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

Looks like someone didn’t get in and is still mad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

I presume you feel the same way about sororities too? Or is it just evil men who are the problem?

NP here: I was just on a large big ten campus.

The fraternity boys were drinking beer in crowds on their porches.

The sororities also had porches. They weren't breaking social distancing rules in a visible way.

Of course, both organizations have their supporters and detractors, but it is the frats who are visibly problematic right now.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ohio State has 882 cases. They added over 800 new cases in one week. They are holding steady on percent % on campus— but are at almost 10% positive off campus. Double a few days ago.

In response Ohio State has asked their students to take COIVD seriously, mask and social distance. Please. If you don’t mind.

What an innovative request. I’m sure no school has thought of that yet.

NP. Yep. The problem is that these have been "requests" and colleges are "asking" students to follow protocols. It's too late now for most schools, of course, but they should have (and still can) require masks, require distancing, etc. They would have to do the one thing they're scared to do: Enforce. They're scared parents will rebel because the parents will say how they pay big bucks for college and colleges can't tell their supposed "adult" children what to do, but can only ask. Sorry, if my adult college student isn't following the rules I welcome her being called out, and if she won't comply, sent home.

Many of the colleges had the students sign a contract agreeing to certain conditions before returning to campus. Dartmouth’s contract even says they agree to take a vaccine if one is approved by both the FDA and the school.

God, I hope they don't force students to take an untested Trump vaccine.

Agreed! This is being pushed out way too fast.

It’s not a “Trump vaccine” you idiots. It is an Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine. And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM. But hey, keep hiding in your urban farmhouses and don’t get the vaccine to score stupid political points.

DP. Your name-calling is immature and your lack of understanding of vaccine trials is showing. Trial data for the Oxford vaccine might be ready to present to regulators before the end of this year. Presenting trial data is not the same thing as having actual vaccines ready to stick into everyone's arms by the end of the year. Yet the administration is making all kinds of noise about a vaccine being "available" -- meaning in their minds, ready for actual use in the population -- very soon. That's not what those actually working on the vaccine are saying. Some of us "randos" know how to read.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-oxford-vaccine-idUSKBN25L0OV
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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would anyone want their kid to join a fraternity. Really.

You name the health issue (binge drinking, hazing, rape) and they have an outsized problem. This is based upon studies, not my stereotype).

Think about what else your kid is "learning" there.

I presume you feel the same way about sororities too? Or is it just evil men who are the problem?

NP here: I was just on a large big ten campus.

The fraternity boys were drinking beer in crowds on their porches.

The sororities also had porches. They weren't breaking social distancing rules in a visible way.

Of course, both organizations have their supporters and detractors, but it is the frats who are visibly problematic right now.

The national fraternity organizations that supposedly oversee the campus chapters should be profoundly ashamed. They already should be out there shutting down their own chapters for the slightest infractions but they won't do it. The universities should shut down the Greek houses now. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ohio State has 882 cases. They added over 800 new cases in one week. They are holding steady on percent % on campus— but are at almost 10% positive off campus. Double a few days ago.

In response Ohio State has asked their students to take COIVD seriously, mask and social distance. Please. If you don’t mind.

What an innovative request. I’m sure no school has thought of that yet.

NP. Yep. The problem is that these have been "requests" and colleges are "asking" students to follow protocols. It's too late now for most schools, of course, but they should have (and still can) require masks, require distancing, etc. They would have to do the one thing they're scared to do: Enforce. They're scared parents will rebel because the parents will say how they pay big bucks for college and colleges can't tell their supposed "adult" children what to do, but can only ask. Sorry, if my adult college student isn't following the rules I welcome her being called out, and if she won't comply, sent home.

Many of the colleges had the students sign a contract agreeing to certain conditions before returning to campus. Dartmouth’s contract even says they agree to take a vaccine if one is approved by both the FDA and the school.

God, I hope they don't force students to take an untested Trump vaccine.

Agreed! This is being pushed out way too fast.

It’s not a “Trump vaccine” you idiots. It is an Oxford/Astrazeneca vaccine. And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM. But hey, keep hiding in your urban farmhouses and don’t get the vaccine to score stupid political points.

DP. Your name-calling is immature and your lack of understanding of vaccine trials is showing. Trial data for the Oxford vaccine might be ready to present to regulators before the end of this year. Presenting trial data is not the same thing as having actual vaccines ready to stick into everyone's arms by the end of the year. Yet the administration is making all kinds of noise about a vaccine being "available" -- meaning in their minds, ready for actual use in the population -- very soon. That's not what those actually working on the vaccine are saying. Some of us "randos" know how to read.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-oxford-vaccine-idUSKBN25L0OV
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But if it is approved by people who know what they are talking about, then what exactly would your problem be with it then?

[Anonymous]

<<And they know a lot more about COVID and vaccines than a bunch of rando suburban women on DCUM.>>

Guess what? some of those "rando suburban women on DCUM" have PhD's and work at NIH.

Your stereotypes are appalling and I hope you don't have daughters...or sons for that matter.