US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All the people saying not to change back have kids that weren't good enough to play on top teams within the same grade, but now are the better players cause they play a grade younger.

+1. Taking my own kids out of the equation and looking at it objectively, grade year is better. And all you high school soccer fans should be the first to advocate for it. If you're in the DA, then I see why you don't care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the people saying not to change back have kids that weren't good enough to play on top teams within the same grade, but now are the better players cause they play a grade younger.

+1. Taking my own kids out of the equation and looking at it objectively, grade year is better. And all you high school soccer fans should be the first to advocate for it. If you're in the DA, then I see why you don't care.

No it’s not better. It does the same thing. You have some kids who are at an age disadvantage or advantage based on there birthday. A better system would be to have each age year broken down by 3 month periods(group one Jan-Mar, group two Apr-June, etc). At about u13 or u14, you consolidate the age years. They do not even record scores till u12.

[Anonymous]

It’s better from a friendship and keeping kids interested in playing perspective, but yes other than that it is just moving the borders. Someone will always be the oldest and someone will always be the youngest (and smallest/biggest, slowest/fastest) no matter where you put the borders.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s better from a friendship and keeping kids interested in playing perspective, but yes other than that it is just moving the borders. Someone will always be the oldest and someone will always be the youngest (and smallest/biggest, slowest/fastest) no matter where you put the borders.

Heaven forbid kids make more/different friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All the people saying not to change back have kids that weren't good enough to play on top teams within the same grade, but now are the better players cause they play a grade younger.

+1. Taking my own kids out of the equation and looking at it objectively, grade year is better. And all you high school soccer fans should be the first to advocate for it. If you're in the DA, then I see why you don't care.

No it’s not better. It does the same thing. You have some kids who are at an age disadvantage or advantage based on there birthday. A better system would be to have each age year broken down by 3 month periods(group one Jan-Mar, group two Apr-June, etc). At about u13 or u14, you consolidate the age years. They do not even record scores till u12.

The problems and interference it causes for 8th graders and the impact on junior and senior teams makes it better by grade. It's not perfect, but the problems have compounded and multiplied going by calendar year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s better from a friendship and keeping kids interested in playing perspective, but yes other than that it is just moving the borders. Someone will always be the oldest and someone will always be the youngest (and smallest/biggest, slowest/fastest) no matter where you put the borders.

I fully disagree. The current rule discriminates children born in the later months because they aren’t able to play down. You see coaches in the US are behind in terms of IQ compared to the rest of world. The majority of coaches in US overlook the small children and select the biggest and tallest, most of these are born January-March, some may be born in November but because they are big they get noticed. Those other younger and smaller are left behind (unless they are the Messy of the team but how many?). Because the age they are selected to move to DA or other elite league is 12-13, the age when children are going through many changes including psychological changes, the fact of being discriminated by coaches results on many of these kids quitting soccer. I have read many articles that bring up that the age when kids stop liking the sport is 12-13.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s better from a friendship and keeping kids interested in playing perspective, but yes other than that it is just moving the borders. Someone will always be the oldest and someone will always be the youngest (and smallest/biggest, slowest/fastest) no matter where you put the borders.

I fully disagree. The current rule discriminates children born in the later months because they aren’t able to play down. You see coaches in the US are behind in terms of IQ compared to the rest of world. The majority of coaches in US overlook the small children and select the biggest and tallest, most of these are born January-March, some may be born in November but because they are big they get noticed. Those other younger and smaller are left behind (unless they are the Messy of the team but how many?). Because the age they are selected to move to DA or other elite league is 12-13, the age when children are going through many changes including psychological changes, the fact of being discriminated by coaches results on many of these kids quitting soccer. I have read many articles that bring up that the age when kids stop liking the sport is 12-13.

*Messi

[Anonymous]

^ give me a f@cking break. He’s one in a billion.

[Anonymous]

^ and wasn’t raised in England or the US where size matters. Might have been a different story...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ give me a f@cking break. He’s one in a billion.

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^ and wasn’t raised in England or the US where size matters. Might have been a different story...

Christian Pulisic (who is no Messi, but same size issue)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s better from a friendship and keeping kids interested in playing perspective, but yes other than that it is just moving the borders. Someone will always be the oldest and someone will always be the youngest (and smallest/biggest, slowest/fastest) no matter where you put the borders.

I fully disagree. The current rule discriminates children born in the later months because they aren’t able to play down. You see coaches in the US are behind in terms of IQ compared to the rest of world. The majority of coaches in US overlook the small children and select the biggest and tallest, most of these are born January-March, some may be born in November but because they are big they get noticed. Those other younger and smaller are left behind (unless they are the Messy of the team but how many?). Because the age they are selected to move to DA or other elite league is 12-13, the age when children are going through many changes including psychological changes, the fact of being discriminated by coaches results on many of these kids quitting soccer. I have read many articles that bring up that the age when kids stop liking the sport is 12-13.

Mathematically, this is nonsensical. There may be bias as you suggest, but it simply hits a different group of kids if you go back to using school grades. The same problem exists either way. Solve it for your kid, yes, but then create it for another.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s better from a friendship and keeping kids interested in playing perspective, but yes other than that it is just moving the borders. Someone will always be the oldest and someone will always be the youngest (and smallest/biggest, slowest/fastest) no matter where you put the borders.

I fully disagree. The current rule discriminates children born in the later months because they aren’t able to play down. You see coaches in the US are behind in terms of IQ compared to the rest of world. The majority of coaches in US overlook the small children and select the biggest and tallest, most of these are born January-March, some may be born in November but because they are big they get noticed. Those other younger and smaller are left behind (unless they are the Messy of the team but how many?). Because the age they are selected to move to DA or other elite league is 12-13, the age when children are going through many changes including psychological changes, the fact of being discriminated by coaches results on many of these kids quitting soccer. I have read many articles that bring up that the age when kids stop liking the sport is 12-13.

There will always be RAE, birth year simply allows us to have the same RAE as the rest of the world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ and wasn’t raised in England or the US where size matters. Might have been a different story...

Christian Pulisic (who is no Messi, but same size issue)

Pulisic is not the product of the US soccer system. His soccer upbringing was unique, so he is not a good example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^ and wasn’t raised in England or the US where size matters. Might have been a different story...

Christian Pulisic (who is no Messi, but same size issue)

Pulisic is not the product of the US soccer system. His soccer upbringing was unique, so he is not a good example.

He's American and did play here for a time. It's a great example, for players with his level talent. Messi is a level above that.