US soccer rumors of changing back age groups?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Momentum is building to repeal birth year registration for a couple reasons.

1. Interest in youth soccer (ages 6-12) dropped 14 percent over the past 3 years. There are several reasons for this trend. Many believe it is in large part due to players wanting to play sports with classmates at younger ages. https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-us-soccer-baxter-20180804-story.html

2. Birth year is not college recruiting friendly. College coaches organize recruiting activities by class. They prefer to compare players by graduating class to match the available talent pool graduating each year. The current system makes this more work. For example, the current system requires coaches to watch twice as many games at events to cover the Sophomore (2022) pool that is now spread between 2 age groups (U16 and U17). Beyond watching more games, they are now watching Sophomores competing versus large numbers of Juniors and Freshman in every game. Not ideal.


Number 1 is driven by demographics, not the age grouping. There was a significant drop off in US births after 2007.


This is wrong, other sports have an increase in participation over the same period. Soccer is one of the few in the negative. Look it up.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Momentum is building to repeal birth year registration for a couple reasons.

1. Interest in youth soccer (ages 6-12) dropped 14 percent over the past 3 years. There are several reasons for this trend. Many believe it is in large part due to players wanting to play sports with classmates at younger ages. https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-us-soccer-baxter-20180804-story.html

2. Birth year is not college recruiting friendly. College coaches organize recruiting activities by class. They prefer to compare players by graduating class to match the available talent pool graduating each year. The current system makes this more work. For example, the current system requires coaches to watch twice as many games at events to cover the Sophomore (2022) pool that is now spread between 2 age groups (U16 and U17). Beyond watching more games, they are now watching Sophomores competing versus large numbers of Juniors and Freshman in every game. Not ideal.


Number 1 is driven by demographics, not the age grouping. There was a significant drop off in US births after 2007.


This is wrong, other sports have an increase in participation over the same period. Soccer is one of the few in the negative. Look it up.



Perhaps you should look it up, there is definitely was a big drop in births in US post 2007. Start with “expected college bust.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Momentum is building to repeal birth year registration for a couple reasons.

1. Interest in youth soccer (ages 6-12) dropped 14 percent over the past 3 years. There are several reasons for this trend. Many believe it is in large part due to players wanting to play sports with classmates at younger ages. https://www.latimes.com/sports/soccer/la-sp-us-soccer-baxter-20180804-story.html

2. Birth year is not college recruiting friendly. College coaches organize recruiting activities by class. They prefer to compare players by graduating class to match the available talent pool graduating each year. The current system makes this more work. For example, the current system requires coaches to watch twice as many games at events to cover the Sophomore (2022) pool that is now spread between 2 age groups (U16 and U17). Beyond watching more games, they are now watching Sophomores competing versus large numbers of Juniors and Freshman in every game. Not ideal.


Number 1 is driven by demographics, not the age grouping. There was a significant drop off in US births after 2007.


This is wrong, other sports have an increase in participation over the same period. Soccer is one of the few in the negative. Look it up.



Perhaps you should look it up, there is definitely was a big drop in births in US post 2007. Start with “expected college bust.”


Did it for you, drop in birth rate since 2008 has been “long and deep” with many long term repercussions. https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-05-30/college-enrollment-bust-is-headed-this-way-by-2026
Anonymous
Found the report, biggest decline after birth year change

https://assets.aspeninstitute.org/content/uploads/2018/10/StateofPlay2018_v4WEB_2-FINAL.pdf
Anonymous
Im sure not making last World Cup was the reason for decline. next World Cup we will qualify and all the media hoopla with boost participation numbers thru the roof. Especially with American youth football on its way to extinction. Birth year will remain the standard as its universal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Im sure not making last World Cup was the reason for decline. next World Cup we will qualify and all the media hoopla with boost participation numbers thru the roof. Especially with American youth football on its way to extinction. Birth year will remain the standard as its universal.


Wtf are you smoking?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Im sure not making last World Cup was the reason for decline. next World Cup we will qualify and all the media hoopla with boost participation numbers thru the roof. Especially with American youth football on its way to extinction. Birth year will remain the standard as its universal.


We won the World Cup. Twice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Im sure not making last World Cup was the reason for decline. next World Cup we will qualify and all the media hoopla with boost participation numbers thru the roof. Especially with American youth football on its way to extinction. Birth year will remain the standard as its universal.


We won the World Cup. Twice.


They were talking about the Men, smart ass.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Found the report, biggest decline after birth year change

https://assets.aspeninstitute.org/content/uploads/2018/10/StateofPlay2018_v4WEB_2-FINAL.pdf


Actually the biggest change, according to that report, was from 2010 to 2012. That predates the birth year change.
Anonymous
during the recession, fewer people were pumping out babies
Anonymous
MSYSA (Maryland State Youth Soccer associaion) said at their Annual General Meeting last June, that Maryland was one of 3 states where soccer participation had actually increased. Can't remember the other 2, maybe Kansas was one?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:during the recession, fewer people were pumping out babies


It started then but it continues even through 2018 figures which are 600k less than 2007
Anonymous
makes the odds of little Johnny making the A team a little better
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:during the recession, fewer people were pumping out babies


It started then but it continues even through 2018 figures which are 600k less than 2007


If the biggest decrease predates the age change, your argument that the age change caused the decline doesn’t hold water. Probably due to increase in other year round club sports like volleyball and lacrosse.
Anonymous
All the people saying not to change back have kids that weren't good enough to play on top teams within the same grade, but now are the better players cause they play a grade younger.
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