US News 2020 rankings

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

Wow you wildly overstate UVA's stats. There's no reason to make up an inflated number for a really great college like UVA. It's 75th percentile SAT score is just 1500 -- in other words only 25% of UVA students beat 1500. https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics

Accordion to prep scholar, UVA’s average SAT is 1365, while Michigan’s is 1415. The acceptance rates are both 27-28%. I don’t know where the Michigan bashing poster got his/her numbers. Even Harvard doesn’t have an average SAT of 1550; it’s 1520.

Accordion should be according

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The "reputation score" is 20% of the ranking and it used to include the results of surveys of college presidents, admissions deans, and school counselors.

They removed the school counselors from the equation for this round. So the reputation score is just what higher level administrators think of schools, not what the people who work with the students day-in and day-out think. Interesting.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/articles/how-us-news-calculated-the-rankings

That is amazing. College presidents have an incentive go game their responses and aren't generally up to date on what is going on at other schools. Their primary reference at this point probably is USNews.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

Wow you wildly overstate UVA's stats. There's no reason to make up an inflated number for a really great college like UVA. It's 75th percentile SAT score is just 1500 -- in other words only 25% of UVA students beat 1500. https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics

Accordion to prep scholar, UVA’s average SAT is 1365, while Michigan’s is 1415. The acceptance rates are both 27-28%. I don’t know where the Michigan bashing poster got his/her numbers. Even Harvard doesn’t have an average SAT of 1550; it’s 1520.

Accordion should be according

The initial post in this thread was a Michigan supporter trying to make a joke sarcastic post. Sarcasm doesn't usually come across too well on the web. There was no attempt to provide real numbers. That said, I think the Prep Scholar ones you provided are not current or correct.

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They are going to have to change the M in DCUM to "Michigan" somehow.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

Wow you wildly overstate UVA's stats. There's no reason to make up an inflated number for a really great college like UVA. It's 75th percentile SAT score is just 1500 -- in other words only 25% of UVA students beat 1500. https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics

Accordion to prep scholar, UVA’s average SAT is 1365, while Michigan’s is 1415. The acceptance rates are both 27-28%. I don’t know where the Michigan bashing poster got his/her numbers. Even Harvard doesn’t have an average SAT of 1550; it’s 1520.

Accordion should be according

The initial post in this thread was a Michigan supporter trying to make a joke sarcastic post. Sarcasm doesn't usually come across too well on the web. There was no attempt to provide real numbers. That said, I think the Prep Scholar ones you provided are not current or correct.

From their actual websites:

Michigan: 1380-1540 (25th/75th percentiles)
UVA: 1330-1500

Michigan is a bit higher now, actually!

Let the rationalization begin from the Michigan bashers.

[Anonymous]

Enough already. Take the UM/UVA debate somewhere else.

[Anonymous]

So glad I didn’t attend either one of these schools if this behavior is a result. I’ll stick with my USNWR ranking over 100.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So glad I didn’t attend either one of these schools if this behavior is a result. I’ll stick with my USNWR ranking over 100.

I didn’t even go to either, but I’ve been posting info about them to just correct the wild inaccuracies peddled by the Michigan basher.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

Wow you wildly overstate UVA's stats. There's no reason to make up an inflated number for a really great college like UVA. It's 75th percentile SAT score is just 1500 -- in other words only 25% of UVA students beat 1500. https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics

Accordion to prep scholar, UVA’s average SAT is 1365, while Michigan’s is 1415. The acceptance rates are both 27-28%. I don’t know where the Michigan bashing poster got his/her numbers. Even Harvard doesn’t have an average SAT of 1550; it’s 1520.

Accordion should be according

The initial post in this thread was a Michigan supporter trying to make a joke sarcastic post. Sarcasm doesn't usually come across too well on the web. There was no attempt to provide real numbers. That said, I think the Prep Scholar ones you provided are not current or correct.

From their actual websites:

Michigan: 1380-1540 (25th/75th percentiles)
UVA: 1330-1500

Michigan is a bit higher now, actually!

Let the rationalization begin from the Michigan bashers.

That sounds about right. The Prep Scholar numbers were wrong, though, and that was my point. My other point, again lost, was that initial post here was a sarcastic Michigan supporter post. You are trying to flip that fact around and make it appear as if it was a UVA supporter.

You can't directly calculate mean from middle 50%, but taking the midpoint usually puts you in the ballpark. This would make UVA about 1395 (30 points higher than Prep Scholar) and Michigan about 1460.

If you went back a few years, William & Mary, Georgia Tech, and UVA were typically at the top of SAT scores for public schools. One of the things that has happened is GT and Michigan have moved ahead and Berkeley and others have come up quite a bit. So the landscape overall is changing, even though DCUM largely focuses on how selective UVA is becoming.

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Anonymous wrote:Elon and CNU appear to be on the rise. They're on our list for safeties.

I have a hard time making sense of the "regional universities" category-- JMU always does well for this in VA and CNU is rising in it, but that category means they can never be more than a regional school? Not that it can't be a fantastic school for those that want that, but I don't quite get why JMU will always be a regional school while GMU is a national university. And what are the implications for that? It seems like the regional category puts a strong upper limit on growth/status potential.

I think all top research universities (Carnegie Classification) get put into national universities.

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Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

Wow you wildly overstate UVA's stats. There's no reason to make up an inflated number for a really great college like UVA. It's 75th percentile SAT score is just 1500 -- in other words only 25% of UVA students beat 1500. https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics

Accordion to prep scholar, UVA’s average SAT is 1365, while Michigan’s is 1415. The acceptance rates are both 27-28%. I don’t know where the Michigan bashing poster got his/her numbers. Even Harvard doesn’t have an average SAT of 1550; it’s 1520.

Accordion should be according

The initial post in this thread was a Michigan supporter trying to make a joke sarcastic post. Sarcasm doesn't usually come across too well on the web. There was no attempt to provide real numbers. That said, I think the Prep Scholar ones you provided are not current or correct.

From their actual websites:

Michigan: 1380-1540 (25th/75th percentiles)
UVA: 1330-1500

Michigan is a bit higher now, actually!

Let the rationalization begin from the Michigan bashers.

That sounds about right. The Prep Scholar numbers were wrong, though, and that was my point. My other point, again lost, was that initial post here was a sarcastic Michigan supporter post. You are trying to flip that fact around and make it appear as if it was a UVA supporter.

You can't directly calculate mean from middle 50%, but taking the midpoint usually puts you in the ballpark. This would make UVA about 1395 (30 points higher than Prep Scholar) and Michigan about 1460.

If you went back a few years, William & Mary, Georgia Tech, and UVA were typically at the top of SAT scores for public schools. One of the things that has happened is GT and Michigan have moved ahead and Berkeley and others have come up quite a bit. So the landscape overall is changing, even though DCUM largely focuses on how selective UVA is becoming.

Something is not right with those numbers. I realize they come from the website, but I got the following from the common data set:

Michigan:
30-34
1330-1510

UVA:
30-34
1330-1500

Which makes them pretty even. What would be more accurate, the website or the CDS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Michigan is a garbage commuter school. It should be ranked 75, not 25. UVA has a 1550 SAT average while Umich is only 1250 average, how is UVA ranked lower? what a joke ranking.

Wow you wildly overstate UVA's stats. There's no reason to make up an inflated number for a really great college like UVA. It's 75th percentile SAT score is just 1500 -- in other words only 25% of UVA students beat 1500. https://admission.virginia.edu/admission/statistics

Accordion to prep scholar, UVA’s average SAT is 1365, while Michigan’s is 1415. The acceptance rates are both 27-28%. I don’t know where the Michigan bashing poster got his/her numbers. Even Harvard doesn’t have an average SAT of 1550; it’s 1520.

Accordion should be according

The initial post in this thread was a Michigan supporter trying to make a joke sarcastic post. Sarcasm doesn't usually come across too well on the web. There was no attempt to provide real numbers. That said, I think the Prep Scholar ones you provided are not current or correct.

From their actual websites:

Michigan: 1380-1540 (25th/75th percentiles)
UVA: 1330-1500

Michigan is a bit higher now, actually!

Let the rationalization begin from the Michigan bashers.

That sounds about right. The Prep Scholar numbers were wrong, though, and that was my point. My other point, again lost, was that initial post here was a sarcastic Michigan supporter post. You are trying to flip that fact around and make it appear as if it was a UVA supporter.

You can't directly calculate mean from middle 50%, but taking the midpoint usually puts you in the ballpark. This would make UVA about 1395 (30 points higher than Prep Scholar) and Michigan about 1460.

If you went back a few years, William & Mary, Georgia Tech, and UVA were typically at the top of SAT scores for public schools. One of the things that has happened is GT and Michigan have moved ahead and Berkeley and others have come up quite a bit. So the landscape overall is changing, even though DCUM largely focuses on how selective UVA is becoming.

Something is not right with those numbers. I realize they come from the website, but I got the following from the common data set:

Michigan:
30-34
1330-1510

UVA:
30-34
1330-1500

Which makes them pretty even. What would be more accurate, the website or the CDS?

Common Data Set is the standard, but publication can lag after the start of the year, so other numbers are flying around.

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Anonymous wrote:Enough already. Take the UM/UVA debate somewhere else.

The only thing this debate has demonstrated is that when it comes to producing whiny, insecure graduates, UM and UVA rank 1 and 2. Now we can have an argument as to who's #1.

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Anonymous wrote:Enough already. Take the UM/UVA debate somewhere else.

The only thing this debate has demonstrated is that when it comes to producing whiny, insecure graduates, UM and UVA rank 1 and 2. Now we can have an argument as to who's #1.

Yeah. One thing you never see on this board is Harvard grads arguing that they should be number one or Stanford grads protesting being 5 or 6.

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Anonymous wrote:Enough already. Take the UM/UVA debate somewhere else.

The only thing this debate has demonstrated is that when it comes to producing whiny, insecure graduates, UM and UVA rank 1 and 2. Now we can have an argument as to who's #1.

Yeah. One thing you never see on this board is Harvard grads arguing that they should be number one or Stanford grads protesting being 5 or 6.

That in a nutshell is one of the advantages of going to those schools for the lucky few.