Polls and Lols: A 2020 Master Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:NBC/WSJ poll: 2020 matchups

Biden 50%, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 45%
Warren 48%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 46%, Trump 45%

When narrowed to 11 battlegrounds: AZ CO FL ME MI MN NV NH NC PA WI

Biden 49, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 46%
Trump 49%, Warren 48%,
Trump 47%, Buttigieg 46%

The only polls that matter are state polls. Biden could take 55% of the vote total in those 11 states and lose 2/3 of them.

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

DP, not literally, but effectively, you are.

Completely - you vote D or you are voting Trump. Why you wouldn’t support any of the Democrats over Trump baffles me.

DP: Voting for Bernie IS voting for Trump. He stands no chance in the general.

GOOD GRIEF is this your source of confusion? We’re talking about the general, not the primary. Vote your conscience in the primary, vote blue in November because your choice then is binary: Blue or Trump.

GOOD GRIEF are you deaf? What previous PP and I are telling you is, give us a competent, non-crazy-leftie Dem. If that's all you offer, Trump wins and YOU are responsible for not offering a better option.

This +1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NBC/WSJ poll: 2020 matchups

Biden 50%, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 45%
Warren 48%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 46%, Trump 45%

When narrowed to 11 battlegrounds: AZ CO FL ME MI MN NV NH NC PA WI

Biden 49, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 46%
Trump 49%, Warren 48%,
Trump 47%, Buttigieg 46%

The only polls that matter are state polls. Biden could take 55% of the vote total in those 11 states and lose 2/3 of them.

NP. I got curious and checked the most recent state totals. Below are numbers for Biden, because he’s the current Dem frontrunner. All polls from January 2020 unless there are no recent polls, in which case date of older poll is noted.

State Biden/Trump Biden lead margin (poll date if not Jan ‘20)
AZ 46/46 dead even
CO 51/42 +9
FL 45/49, 51/49, 47/45 dead even
ME 54/42 +12 (Oct ‘19)
MI 50/44, 50/43 +6
MN 50/38 +12
NV 47/39 +8
NH 51/43 +8
NC 45/43 +2 (Nov ‘19)
PA 41/45, 52/43, 47/43 +3 (Nov-Dec ‘19)
WI 49/45, 48/41 +5

It does not look like Biden will lose 2/3 of those states.

Everyone do your part to get trump and these criminals out of the WH and Congress, so we can take back our country from the traitors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NBC/WSJ poll: 2020 matchups

Biden 50%, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 45%
Warren 48%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 46%, Trump 45%

When narrowed to 11 battlegrounds: AZ CO FL ME MI MN NV NH NC PA WI

Biden 49, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 46%
Trump 49%, Warren 48%,
Trump 47%, Buttigieg 46%

The only polls that matter are state polls. Biden could take 55% of the vote total in those 11 states and lose 2/3 of them.

NP. I got curious and checked the most recent state totals. Below are numbers for Biden, because he’s the current Dem frontrunner. All polls from January 2020 unless there are no recent polls, in which case date of older poll is noted.

State Biden/Trump Biden lead margin (poll date if not Jan ‘20)
AZ 46/46 dead even
CO 51/42 +9
FL 45/49, 51/49, 47/45 dead even
ME 54/42 +12 (Oct ‘19)
MI 50/44, 50/43 +6
MN 50/38 +12
NV 47/39 +8
NH 51/43 +8
NC 45/43 +2 (Nov ‘19)
PA 41/45, 52/43, 47/43 +3 (Nov-Dec ‘19)
WI 49/45, 48/41 +5

It does not look like Biden will lose 2/3 of those states.

Everyone do your part to get trump and these criminals out of the WH and Congress, so we can take back our country from the traitors.

You give me hope. Thank you.

[Anonymous]

If Cernovich’s leaked numbers from the last DMR poll are correct, Bernie will win easily, Warren will take a solid second place, and Pete and Joe will be struggling if Warren sweeps up from those who aren’t viable.

Wonder how long Pete will stay in, then. He has a lot of money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Cernovich’s leaked numbers from the last DMR poll are correct, Bernie will win easily, Warren will take a solid second place, and Pete and Joe will be struggling if Warren sweeps up from those who aren’t viable.

Wonder how long Pete will stay in, then. He has a lot of money.

Klobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Cernovich’s leaked numbers from the last DMR poll are correct, Bernie will win easily, Warren will take a solid second place, and Pete and Joe will be struggling if Warren sweeps up from those who aren’t viable.

Wonder how long Pete will stay in, then. He has a lot of money.

I don’t trust Mike Cernovich. And, it doesn’t make any sense that Warren is the one who would “sweep up from those who aren’t viable.” She is well to the left of most of those who aren’t going to get 15%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Cernovich’s leaked numbers from the last DMR poll are correct, Bernie will win easily, Warren will take a solid second place, and Pete and Joe will be struggling if Warren sweeps up from those who aren’t viable.

Wonder how long Pete will stay in, then. He has a lot of money.

I don’t trust Mike Cernovich. And, it doesn’t make any sense that Warren is the one who would “sweep up from those who aren’t viable.” She is well to the left of most of those who aren’t going to get 15%.

Polling says Warren is the most frequent second choice, regardless of who the first choice is. It’s not about ideology.

I don’t trust him either but I completely believe Pete’s team didn’t want the numbers out, and several sources have confirmed. Cernovich is in all likelihood trying to get Sanders to declare victory early, to shut down the movement from non-viable candidates to others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:NBC/WSJ poll: 2020 matchups

Biden 50%, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 45%
Warren 48%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 46%, Trump 45%

When narrowed to 11 battlegrounds: AZ CO FL ME MI MN NV NH NC PA WI

Biden 49, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 46%
Trump 49%, Warren 48%,
Trump 47%, Buttigieg 46%

The only polls that matter are state polls. Biden could take 55% of the vote total in those 11 states and lose 2/3 of them.

NP. I got curious and checked the most recent state totals. Below are numbers for Biden, because he’s the current Dem frontrunner. All polls from January 2020 unless there are no recent polls, in which case date of older poll is noted.

State Biden/Trump Biden lead margin (poll date if not Jan ‘20)
AZ 46/46 dead even
CO 51/42 +9
FL 45/49, 51/49, 47/45 dead even
ME 54/42 +12 (Oct ‘19)
MI 50/44, 50/43 +6
MN 50/38 +12
NV 47/39 +8
NH 51/43 +8
NC 45/43 +2 (Nov ‘19)
PA 41/45, 52/43, 47/43 +3 (Nov-Dec ‘19)
WI 49/45, 48/41 +5

It does not look like Biden will lose 2/3 of those states.

Everyone do your part to get trump and these criminals out of the WH and Congress, so we can take back our country from the traitors.

You give me hope. Thank you.

+2 thank you!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NBC/WSJ poll: 2020 matchups

Biden 50%, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 45%
Warren 48%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 46%, Trump 45%

When narrowed to 11 battlegrounds: AZ CO FL ME MI MN NV NH NC PA WI

Biden 49, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 46%
Trump 49%, Warren 48%,
Trump 47%, Buttigieg 46%

The only polls that matter are state polls. Biden could take 55% of the vote total in those 11 states and lose 2/3 of them.

NP. I got curious and checked the most recent state totals. Below are numbers for Biden, because he’s the current Dem frontrunner. All polls from January 2020 unless there are no recent polls, in which case date of older poll is noted.

State Biden/Trump Biden lead margin (poll date if not Jan ‘20)
AZ 46/46 dead even
CO 51/42 +9
FL 45/49, 51/49, 47/45 dead even
ME 54/42 +12 (Oct ‘19)
MI 50/44, 50/43 +6
MN 50/38 +12
NV 47/39 +8
NH 51/43 +8
NC 45/43 +2 (Nov ‘19)
PA 41/45, 52/43, 47/43 +3 (Nov-Dec ‘19)
WI 49/45, 48/41 +5

It does not look like Biden will lose 2/3 of those states.

Everyone do your part to get trump and these criminals out of the WH and Congress, so we can take back our country from the traitors.

You give me hope. Thank you.

+2 thank you!!

+3 thank you also - I knew “Biden could lose 2/3 of them” PP was off but didn’t have time to properly call them on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Cernovich’s leaked numbers from the last DMR poll are correct, Bernie will win easily, Warren will take a solid second place, and Pete and Joe will be struggling if Warren sweeps up from those who aren’t viable.

Wonder how long Pete will stay in, then. He has a lot of money.

I don’t trust Mike Cernovich. And, it doesn’t make any sense that Warren is the one who would “sweep up from those who aren’t viable.” She is well to the left of most of those who aren’t going to get 15%.

Polling says Warren is the most frequent second choice, regardless of who the first choice is. It’s not about ideology.

I don’t trust him either but I completely believe Pete’s team didn’t want the numbers out, and several sources have confirmed. Cernovich is in all likelihood trying to get Sanders to declare victory early, to shut down the movement from non-viable candidates to others.

Hmmm, I wonder why pro-Trump trolls like Mike Cernovich are so interested in promoting Bernie?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Cernovich’s leaked numbers from the last DMR poll are correct, Bernie will win easily, Warren will take a solid second place, and Pete and Joe will be struggling if Warren sweeps up from those who aren’t viable.

Wonder how long Pete will stay in, then. He has a lot of money.

I don’t trust Mike Cernovich. And, it doesn’t make any sense that Warren is the one who would “sweep up from those who aren’t viable.” She is well to the left of most of those who aren’t going to get 15%.

Polling says Warren is the most frequent second choice, regardless of who the first choice is. It’s not about ideology.

I don’t trust him either but I completely believe Pete’s team didn’t want the numbers out, and several sources have confirmed. Cernovich is in all likelihood trying to get Sanders to declare victory early, to shut down the movement from non-viable candidates to others.

Hmmm, I wonder why pro-Trump trolls like Mike Cernovich are so interested in promoting Bernie?

Same reasons Hugh Hewitt is, or Diamond and Silk, or any of the other Trumpers working overtime to promote Bernie in the past month. They think he’s the weakest target and they want to rile up his fan base and try to keep them from voting if Bernie isn’t the nominee.

Pete’s campaign really got their noses out of joint about the poll and that played into Trump’s hands. Trumpers claim that the poll was suppressed because it showed Bernie winning, and of course Bernie’s fans picked that right up.

[Anonymous]

Yea, whatever. I will be voting for Bloomberg so an actual billionaire will win this time around. I'll be skipping the debate clown show this year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If Cernovich’s leaked numbers from the last DMR poll are correct, Bernie will win easily, Warren will take a solid second place, and Pete and Joe will be struggling if Warren sweeps up from those who aren’t viable.

Wonder how long Pete will stay in, then. He has a lot of money.

I don’t trust Mike Cernovich. And, it doesn’t make any sense that Warren is the one who would “sweep up from those who aren’t viable.” She is well to the left of most of those who aren’t going to get 15%.

Polling says Warren is the most frequent second choice, regardless of who the first choice is. It’s not about ideology.

I don’t trust him either but I completely believe Pete’s team didn’t want the numbers out, and several sources have confirmed. Cernovich is in all likelihood trying to get Sanders to declare victory early, to shut down the movement from non-viable candidates to others.

Hmmm, I wonder why pro-Trump trolls like Mike Cernovich are so interested in promoting Bernie?

So that they can run ads saying Bernie is anti America capitalism. He is a socialist who wants to take all your money and redistribute it to the non working illegal immigrants and poor people in the inner cities. They will conveniently leave out any mention of the poor in the rural and exhurb areas of America. Duh.

[Anonymous]

There goes the media claims that Trump had best week and acquittal was big win for him.

Quinnipiac poll Feb 5-9:

Bloomberg beats Trump 51-42
Sanders beats Trump 51-43
Biden beats Trump 50-43
Klobuchar beats Trump 49-43
Warren beats Trump 48-44
Buttigieg beats Trump 47-43