Polls and Lols: A 2020 Master Thread

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

If Sanders manages to secure the nomination, he will have alienated so many Democrats that he will have a hard time securing some Democratic votes in a general election. Watch for Bloomberg to run as an Independent in that scenario.

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Sigh. Or If you do not vote for Trump then you are voting for the Democrat.

Yep. Heads I win, tails you lose.

[Anonymous]

New Monmouth Iowa poll:

Biden 23%
Sanders 21%
Buttigieg 16%
Warren 15%
Klobuchar 10%
Steyer 4%
Yang 3%
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_ia_012920.pdf/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Monmouth Iowa poll:

Biden 23%
Sanders 21%
Buttigieg 16%
Warren 15%
Klobuchar 10%
Steyer 4%
Yang 3%
https://www.monmouth.edu/polling-institute/documents/monmouthpoll_ia_012920.pdf/

Polls for Iowa are weird because its difficult to reliably predict who will show up for the caucus. This is how Obama was able to win Iowa, even though Clinton was the favorite in the polls: Obama had a lot of enthusiasm on the ground with people who were motivated to attend their caucus.

I am expecting a Sanders win in Iowa, given the ferocity of his base. However, I think Sanders collapses in South Carolina and on Super Tuesday.

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

DP, not literally, but effectively, you are.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

DP, not literally, but effectively, you are.

Completely - you vote D or you are voting Trump. Why you wouldn’t support any of the Democrats over Trump baffles me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

DP, not literally, but effectively, you are.

Completely - you vote D or you are voting Trump. Why you wouldn’t support any of the Democrats over Trump baffles me.

DP: Voting for Bernie IS voting for Trump. He stands no chance in the general.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

DP, not literally, but effectively, you are.

Completely - you vote D or you are voting Trump. Why you wouldn’t support any of the Democrats over Trump baffles me.

DP: Voting for Bernie IS voting for Trump. He stands no chance in the general.

GOOD GRIEF is this your source of confusion? We’re talking about the general, not the primary. Vote your conscience in the primary, vote blue in November because your choice then is binary: Blue or Trump.

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

DP, not literally, but effectively, you are.

Completely - you vote D or you are voting Trump. Why you wouldn’t support any of the Democrats over Trump baffles me.

DP: Voting for Bernie IS voting for Trump. He stands no chance in the general.

GOOD GRIEF is this your source of confusion? We’re talking about the general, not the primary. Vote your conscience in the primary, vote blue in November because your choice then is binary: Blue or Trump.

GOOD GRIEF are you deaf? What previous PP and I are telling you is, give us a competent, non-crazy-leftie Dem. If that's all you offer, Trump wins and YOU are responsible for not offering a better option.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New head-to-heads in national CNN poll out today:

Biden 53%, Trump 44%
Bloomberg 52%, Trump 43%
Sanders 52%, Trump 45%
Warren 50%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 49%, Trump 45%
Klobuchar 48%, Trump 45%

I’m going with this poll being trash.

Based on what? No poll has shown that more than 45% of Americans want Trump to be president again.

I’m more weird with the way different D candidates stack up relatively then I am about Trump’s relatively stable numbers here. I’m guessing there’s sample size issues, sampling bias, and questions that are ordered/designed to prompt a particular response. Bloomberg’s popularity is the reddest flag, IMO.

Here’s the whole thing if you want to take a look.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnn/2020/images/01/22/rel1b.-.2020.pdf

Also buried in here - CNN asked if Democrats would feel enthusiastic-or-satisfied, vs. dissatisfied-or-upset, if a candidate won the nomination.

Biden: 72% vs 26% (upset: 9%)
Sanders: 77% vs 23% (upset: 10%)
Warren: 72% vs 24% (upset: 7%)

Seems as if the Dems aren't in as much disarray as they seem.

Biden, Sanders, or Warren. Any one of these three guarantees a Trump victory in Nov. Come on Dems, nominate someone that isn’t either senile or way off the left deep end. Give us swing voters someone to get behind. I am not voting for Trump, but won’t vote for one of those three either.

That’s voting for Trump.

No, actually it isn’t, but nice try.

How many times do we have to go over this? Your choice is Trump or the Democrat. If you do not vote for the Democrat, you are voting for Trump.

Actually it doesn’t work that way skippy, but nice try.

DP, not literally, but effectively, you are.

Completely - you vote D or you are voting Trump. Why you wouldn’t support any of the Democrats over Trump baffles me.

Stop the moralizing bad math! If someone stays home, they clearly don’t add to the Democrats’ totals. But they also don’t add to Trump’s totals, which actually requires voting.

Those of you who are so sure almost any Democrat is better than Trump need to support the Democrat who moves the most new people in swing states and I. areas outside of the Democrats’ high-income enclaves to vote for the Democrats. And that includes the possibility that it’s a candidate, like Sanders or Gabbard, that upsets many perennial knee-jerk Democrats.

[Anonymous]

NBC/WSJ poll: 2020 matchups

Biden 50%, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 45%
Warren 48%, Trump 45%
Buttigieg 46%, Trump 45%

When narrowed to 11 battlegrounds: AZ CO FL ME MI MN NV NH NC PA WI

Biden 49, Trump 44%
Sanders 49%, Trump 46%
Trump 49%, Warren 48%,
Trump 47%, Buttigieg 46%

[Anonymous]

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GOOD GRIEF are you deaf? What previous PP and I are telling you is, give us a competent, non-crazy-leftie Dem. If that's all you offer, Trump wins and YOU are responsible for not offering a better option.

Nope, that is on you. Either vote for a crazy lefty of vote for Trump. Personally, I would vote for a steaming pile of dog excrement over Trump. At least that can serve as fertilizer and be useful

[Anonymous]

I think Sanders takes Iowa and NH. Biden takes SC.

Bloomberg capitalizes on the confusion and people who are afraid that Sanders may be gaining steam, drop their support of Biden and throw it to Bloomberg who seems so enegetic and coherent compared to Biden.

I think Bloomberg vs. Sanders becomes a huge clash ... with a lot of fallout. Bloomberg takes the nomination, but will the dejected Bernie supporters get onboard? I fear they will not.