Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.

Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.

I have no idea what his HHI is, but his parents could give them $60,000 a year tax-free, and probably are. It's quite common in upper-middle class (and up) families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not read through the whole thread so I apologize if this has already been asked. My post was deleted on there for reasons I don’t quite understand.

I am as anti-Trump is the next person. However, I do understand that people are convicting BK with little to no evidence. That said why don’t earth would she make it up? Her life is being threatened and obviously will never be the same, or at least not for a long while. It’s not like she claimed he raped her... So why would she make up this sort of middle of the road story? It’s not like she is some crazed Democrat and everyone knows that if this guy doesn’t make it there will be another one in line. So what would be her motive?

Her motive would be to keep an anti-abortion judge off the Court. She is a very liberal California professor who hired a well-known liberal activist to help her accomplish this.

Plotting this since 2002 apparently.
And then they planted the seed among a wide variety of Yale graduates to do the same this past July. Maybe Kavanaugh was being framed when someone else waved their penis in Ramirez's face in 1983.
Oh, and maybe they plotted all the way back in 1981 to write Kavanaugh and Judge's yearbooks so it looked like they drank in excess and bragged about their sexual exploits when they were really just good altar boys.
And maybe they've been blackmailing Kavanaugh for years which would account for his debt problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.

Wow, really strong corroboration.

There’s an email chain of people wondering if/when the Yale incident was going to come out between a whole bunch of students that dates back before Dr. Ford went public.

Was that included in the article? Who were the participants? Were they interviewed? What were the results of the interviews?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.

Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.

I have no idea what his HHI is, but his parents could give them $60,000 a year tax-free, and probably are. It's quite common in upper-middle class (and up) families.

That would be a possibility, but under oath he didn't say that. Instead he said that people paid him back for baseball tickets that he bought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not read through the whole thread so I apologize if this has already been asked. My post was deleted on there for reasons I don’t quite understand.

I am as anti-Trump is the next person. However, I do understand that people are convicting BK with little to no evidence. That said why don’t earth would she make it up? Her life is being threatened and obviously will never be the same, or at least not for a long while. It’s not like she claimed he raped her... So why would she make up this sort of middle of the road story? It’s not like she is some crazed Democrat and everyone knows that if this guy doesn’t make it there will be another one in line. So what would be her motive?

Her motive would be to keep an anti-abortion judge off the Court. She is a very liberal California professor who hired a well-known liberal activist to help her accomplish this.

Plotting this since 2002 apparently.
And then they planted the seed among a wide variety of Yale graduates to do the same this past July. Maybe Kavanaugh was being framed when someone else waved their penis in Ramirez's face in 1983.
Oh, and maybe they plotted all the way back in 1981 to write Kavanaugh and Judge's yearbooks so it looked like they drank in excess and bragged about their sexual exploits when they were really just good altar boys.
And maybe they've been blackmailing Kavanaugh for years which would account for his debt problems.

These betches are plotters straight out of a Dumas novel!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Avenatti owes $5 million in taxes. Is he being funded by liberal money (like Soros) to take down Kavanaugh?

But you have no problem with $200k of Kavanaugh debt disappearing mysteriously?

I'm sure his parents paid it off for him. That's not the same as someone bribing someone to destroy a oerson's reputation.

Is it considered income if someone pays your debts? If his parents (or anyone else) paid of his debt, does he have to declare that as income and pay taxes on it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is every confirmation hearing now going to include the question, "so judge, did you ever try to get to second base in high school?"

This may be controversial, or perhaps overly wishful thinking, but I hope that once all of this blows over we will have political agreement that adults will be judged on the men and women they have become and not the boys and girls they once were.

FWIW I think if, in response to Blasey, Kavanaugh had said something like, 'In my youth I was less aware of the type of environment women are expected to grow up in and, in some youthful indiscretions, think I might have been some women's bad memory. For this I am ashamed and apologetic. I have gone on to become a champion of women and a faithful husband and devoted father...blah blah blah' this would have blown over. The denial/avoidance dance is what caused the dust up. Even I, a liberal woman, upon first hearing of the accusations was a little bit like, 'welllll, a drunken thing that wasn't a rape in high school??????' I feel like my reaction is kind of proof as to how endemic the rape/male apologist culture is but whatever, just as proof that they could have rammed this through if they hadn't gone total denial. They dug their heels in, other women felt compelled to come out, and now he looks like such a slimeball I feel like I can protest him in a non partisan way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have not read through the whole thread so I apologize if this has already been asked. My post was deleted on there for reasons I don’t quite understand.

I am as anti-Trump is the next person. However, I do understand that people are convicting BK with little to no evidence. That said why don’t earth would she make it up? Her life is being threatened and obviously will never be the same, or at least not for a long while. It’s not like she claimed he raped her... So why would she make up this sort of middle of the road story? It’s not like she is some crazed Democrat and everyone knows that if this guy doesn’t make it there will be another one in line. So what would be her motive?

Her motive would be to keep an anti-abortion judge off the Court. She is a very liberal California professor who hired a well-known liberal activist to help her accomplish this.

Plotting this since 2002 apparently.
And then they planted the seed among a wide variety of Yale graduates to do the same this past July. Maybe Kavanaugh was being framed when someone else waved their penis in Ramirez's face in 1983.
Oh, and maybe they plotted all the way back in 1981 to write Kavanaugh and Judge's yearbooks so it looked like they drank in excess and bragged about their sexual exploits when they were really just good altar boys.
And maybe they've been blackmailing Kavanaugh for years which would account for his debt problems.

These betches are plotters straight out of a Dumas novel!!!

It must have been the same crafty people who put Obama's birth announcement in the Honolulu newspaper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.

Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.

I have no idea what his HHI is, but his parents could give them $60,000 a year tax-free, and probably are. It's quite common in upper-middle class (and up) families.

Possible. Do judges get lifestyle poly’s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Avenatti owes $5 million in taxes. Is he being funded by liberal money (like Soros) to take down Kavanaugh?

But you have no problem with $200k of Kavanaugh debt disappearing mysteriously?

I'm sure his parents paid it off for him. That's not the same as someone bribing someone to destroy a oerson's reputation.

Is it considered income if someone pays your debts? If his parents (or anyone else) paid of his debt, does he have to declare that as income and pay taxes on it?

And if it’s true, why not just say so? He said nothing of the sort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.

Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.

Two country club memberships.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.

Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.

I have no idea what his HHI is, but his parents could give them $60,000 a year tax-free, and probably are. It's quite common in upper-middle class (and up) families.

Possible. Do judges get lifestyle poly’s?

I have come to understand that his first background check was very, very long and he was only allowed to move forward at W’s pleasure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.

Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.

I have no idea what his HHI is, but his parents could give them $60,000 a year tax-free, and probably are. It's quite common in upper-middle class (and up) families.

Possible. Do judges get lifestyle poly’s?

I don't get why it would be a problem if his parents have a gifting program in effect. It's quite common, as I said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.

Wow, really strong corroboration.

There’s an email chain of people wondering if/when the Yale incident was going to come out between a whole bunch of students that dates back before Dr. Ford went public.

Was that included in the article? Who were the participants? Were they interviewed? What were the results of the interviews?

Those would be good questions for the FBI to investigate. But that's right, the WH hasn't asked them to reopen the background investigation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.

Wow, really strong corroboration.

There’s an email chain of people wondering if/when the Yale incident was going to come out between a whole bunch of students that dates back before Dr. Ford went public.

Was that included in the article? Who were the participants? Were they interviewed? What were the results of the interviews?

See the first 16:20 message above.