Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.



Wow, really strong corroboration.






Yes, that's only good enough to give someone the death penalty.


If that's so, then why not let the FBI investigate and make that determination? What are you righties afraid of?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is every confirmation hearing now going to include the question, "so judge, did you ever try to get to second base in high school?"


...while pinning down the unwilling recipient?”

Sounds like a fair question to me!


You forgot cupping his hand over her mouth to muffle her screams.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is every confirmation hearing now going to include the question, "so judge, did you ever try to get to second base in high school?"


This may be controversial, or perhaps overly wishful thinking, but I hope that once all of this blows over we will have political agreement that adults will be judged on the men and women they have become and not the boys and girls they once were.

And if it were proven that he gang raped a girl, would that still be acceptably long ago?

I feel like there can be redemption for past crimes, but gang rape, pedophilia, cruelty to elderly and other who can’t defend themselves.... if you do these kinds of things, you don’t need to be rewarded with a seat on the Supreme Court.

Maybe it’s jut time for Merrick Garland.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.


Wow, really strong corroboration.


There’s an email chain of people wondering if/when the Yale incident was going to come out between a whole bunch of students that dates back before Dr. Ford went public.


We have not seen the email chain. This is what the story says;

Mark Krasberg, an assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of New Mexico who was also a member of Kavanaugh and Ramirez’s class at Yale, said Kavanaugh’s college behavior had become a topic of discussion among former Yale students soon after Kavanaugh’s nomination. In one e-mail that Krasberg received in September, the classmate who recalled hearing about the incident with Ramirez [discussed just above in the story] alluded to the allegation and wrote that it “would qualify as a sexual assault,” he speculated, “if it’s true.”

Krasberg in effect says he received an email from the anonymous student in the article who had heard about the incident second hand and repeated it in the email.

So the email "chain" does not appear to bring in new witnesses, second hand or otherwise.


You simply have no basis for saying this. None. Are you a Russian troll?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.


Wow, really strong corroboration.


There’s an email chain of people wondering if/when the Yale incident was going to come out between a whole bunch of students that dates back before Dr. Ford went public.


We have not seen the email chain. This is what the story says;

Mark Krasberg, an assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of New Mexico who was also a member of Kavanaugh and Ramirez’s class at Yale, said Kavanaugh’s college behavior had become a topic of discussion among former Yale students soon after Kavanaugh’s nomination. In one e-mail that Krasberg received in September, the classmate who recalled hearing about the incident with Ramirez [discussed just above in the story] alluded to the allegation and wrote that it “would qualify as a sexual assault,” he speculated, “if it’s true.”

Krasberg in effect says he received an email from the anonymous student in the article who had heard about the incident second hand and repeated it in the email.

So the email "chain" does not appear to bring in new witnesses, second hand or otherwise.


The information about the email chain was straight from Jane Mayer’s mouth in an interview this morning. She co-authored the article with Ronan farrow. Presumably not all of the participants wanted to go public.
Anonymous
How many times does it need to be pointed out that the FBI (or anyone) can not investigate until the victim files a complaint, and even if they do file one the FBI has no jurisdiction to investigate?

At this point you want the FBI to investigate an assault that happened somewhere in Maryland, sometime in 1982ish. That'll be a short investigation.
Anonymous
I have not read through the whole thread so I apologize if this has already been asked. My post was deleted on there for reasons I don’t quite understand.

I am as anti-Trump is the next person. However, I do understand that people are convicting BK with little to no evidence. That said why don’t earth would she make it up? Her life is being threatened and obviously will never be the same, or at least not for a long while. It’s not like she claimed he raped her... So why would she make up this sort of middle of the road story? It’s not like she is some crazed Democrat and everyone knows that if this guy doesn’t make it there will be another one in line. So what would be her motive?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Is every confirmation hearing now going to include the question, "so judge, did you ever try to force a girl to get to second base in high school?"


FIFY

Anonymous
One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How many times does it need to be pointed out that the FBI (or anyone) can not investigate until the victim files a complaint, and even if they do file one the FBI has no jurisdiction to investigate?

At this point you want the FBI to investigate an assault that happened somewhere in Maryland, sometime in 1982ish. That'll be a short investigation.


Liar. Ford and Ramirez want the FBI in. Trump and Grabanaugh want the FBI out.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:How many times does it need to be pointed out that the FBI (or anyone) can not investigate until the victim files a complaint, and even if they do file one the FBI has no jurisdiction to investigate?

At this point you want the FBI to investigate an assault that happened somewhere in Maryland, sometime in 1982ish. That'll be a short investigation.


Then let’s do it. Let’s see what Judge tells the FBI. He seems to be a key witness in all Kavanaugh’s drunken debauchery.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Here's his letter to the JC:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/24/politics/read-brett-kavanaugh-letter-senate-judiciary-committee/index.html?utm_term=image&utm_source=twCNNp&utm_content=2018-09-24T18%3A47%3A08&utm_medium=social

His defense is that no one but Ford remembers the party from 36 years ago.

I don't remember parties from 36 years ago where nothing happened to me, so I hardly think that's a strong defense.

He also says that the alleged witnesses to the Ramirez incident deny it happened, yet he doesn't mention that others were told about it at the time. Ya, that's heresay, but it's still significant:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/09/24/brett-kavanaugh-deborah-ramirez-what-we-know/1408056002/

One student, who chose to remain anonymous, told The New Yorker that he recalled being told about the alleged incident that night or the next day. He said he was "100 percent sure" that the person who told him about it identified Kavanaugh as the student who exposed himself.

Another classmate at Yale, now-emergency room doctor Richard Oh, remembered a tearful female student describing the incident but he could not recall who the student was.


Wow, really strong corroboration.


There’s an email chain of people wondering if/when the Yale incident was going to come out between a whole bunch of students that dates back before Dr. Ford went public.


We have not seen the email chain. This is what the story says;

Mark Krasberg, an assistant professor of neurosurgery at the University of New Mexico who was also a member of Kavanaugh and Ramirez’s class at Yale, said Kavanaugh’s college behavior had become a topic of discussion among former Yale students soon after Kavanaugh’s nomination. In one e-mail that Krasberg received in September, the classmate who recalled hearing about the incident with Ramirez [discussed just above in the story] alluded to the allegation and wrote that it “would qualify as a sexual assault,” he speculated, “if it’s true.”

Krasberg in effect says he received an email from the anonymous student in the article who had heard about the incident second hand and repeated it in the email.

So the email "chain" does not appear to bring in new witnesses, second hand or otherwise.


The information about the email chain was straight from Jane Mayer’s mouth in an interview this morning. She co-authored the article with Ronan farrow. Presumably not all of the participants wanted to go public.


As far as we know, based on evidence from the article, the email chain was started by quoted anonymous classmate because that is who Krasberg--and perhaps a number of others--received it from.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have not read through the whole thread so I apologize if this has already been asked. My post was deleted on there for reasons I don’t quite understand.

I am as anti-Trump is the next person. However, I do understand that people are convicting BK with little to no evidence. That said why don’t earth would she make it up? Her life is being threatened and obviously will never be the same, or at least not for a long while. It’s not like she claimed he raped her... So why would she make up this sort of middle of the road story? It’s not like she is some crazed Democrat and everyone knows that if this guy doesn’t make it there will be another one in line. So what would be her motive?

Her motive would be to keep an anti-abortion judge off the Court. She is a very liberal California professor who hired a well-known liberal activist to help her accomplish this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.


Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:One of the most upsetting elements of the New Yorker story was how revealing it was of frat brat culture back then, and now. It wasn’t written cruelly, but it was noted that kind Debbie Martinez was a gentle outsider, and that Kavanaugh and friends were manipulative, hard-partying wolves. Really hard to see how anyone can discount the story - there was hearsay corroboration, and this isn’t a criminal trial. It just has laid bare the entitlement that has been the foundation of his life.

He and his wife are going to just say the other women all decided to lie? Quite a strategy.


Yes, his wife will say she has never witnessed this type of behavior and her husband is a saint.

I still want to know how they are living in Chevy Chase on a judge’s salary paying two private tuitions and a country club membership.

Rich parents.
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