Who Are the Annoying People Who Ride Their Bikes on River Road During Morning Rush Hour???

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Snort. You wish ANYONE had a sexual preoccupation with you of any kind at all. Keep dreaming, you sad little geek.

Live with yourself, Trumpkin. I can think of no worse fate for you.

Well, you're a grown man in skin tight trike shorts, so I suppose you're the expert on "worse fates".

Note only that, I am buying more. Though I also ride in casual clothes too sometimes.

Also your loony hero is going down.

Ooh, upping the patheticness quotient, I didn't even think that was possible.

Hopefully that gives your coworkers a good laugh.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/11/16271168/obamacare-repeal-dead-what-now

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Snort. You wish ANYONE had a sexual preoccupation with you of any kind at all. Keep dreaming, you sad little geek.

Live with yourself, Trumpkin. I can think of no worse fate for you.

Well, you're a grown man in skin tight trike shorts, so I suppose you're the expert on "worse fates".

Note only that, I am buying more. Though I also ride in casual clothes too sometimes.

Also your loony hero is going down.

Ooh, upping the patheticness quotient, I didn't even think that was possible.

Hopefully that gives your coworkers a good laugh.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/9/11/16271168/obamacare-repeal-dead-what-now

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2869069/Oh-shame-married-MAMIL-s-Middle-Aged-Man-Lycra.html

[Anonymous]

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Do you even live in DC? Since I assume you don't you just need to suck it up and follow the laws.

In DC the default speed limit is 25 MPH and even most casual bikers can comfortably go about 15MPH and even on arterial roads in DC the speed limit is just 30 MPH so some of the differential is actually generated by aggressive and speeding motorists.

It is especially stupid when people complain about bikes in DC - in most parts of the city during rush hour bikes can comfortably move along at the same rate as traffic. That doesn't mean they are as fast as cars on every stretch of roadway but when you factor in congestion at every single intersection the average speed on DC streets is quite low and almost always below a comfortable speed for biking.

But that is what pisses off most drivers. They get behind a biker and eventually pass them (usually illegally and dangerously) with a rage acceleration and apparently a laying on of the horn and then half a block later the cyclists coasts up to them at the next intersection.

So all that chest beating and machismo and angst and Mr. North Potomac in his SUV can't go any faster than a guy on a CABI.

I agree that, certainly in DC or other city traffic, this is what bugs drivers most about bicyclists. You're sitting there in your car, going nowhere, while the person on the bicycle is moving.

And then, of course, there's the assumption that people not in cars should make way for people in cars. (I have never read any complaints, anywhere, from pedestrians or bicyclists about the inconsiderateness of drivers driving their cars at the same time that pedestrians/bicyclists are trying to get to work.) Although, to be sure, US society has designed its transportation systems based on this assumption for at least the last 70 years, so it's not surprising that people don't question it.

So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...), presumably because they want to be treated as if they were an actual car, and then they want to be able to use the far side of the road, instead of waiting in line like an actual vehicle?

Yes, this is exactly why people hate cyclists. The absolute self absorption, the demand of being treated "like a vehicle" when it suits them, and disregarding it as soon as its convenient. It's laughable, absurd, and contemptible. Which is why most people see cyclists and look down on them.

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Do you even live in DC? Since I assume you don't you just need to suck it up and follow the laws.

In DC the default speed limit is 25 MPH and even most casual bikers can comfortably go about 15MPH and even on arterial roads in DC the speed limit is just 30 MPH so some of the differential is actually generated by aggressive and speeding motorists.

It is especially stupid when people complain about bikes in DC - in most parts of the city during rush hour bikes can comfortably move along at the same rate as traffic. That doesn't mean they are as fast as cars on every stretch of roadway but when you factor in congestion at every single intersection the average speed on DC streets is quite low and almost always below a comfortable speed for biking.

But that is what pisses off most drivers. They get behind a biker and eventually pass them (usually illegally and dangerously) with a rage acceleration and apparently a laying on of the horn and then half a block later the cyclists coasts up to them at the next intersection.

So all that chest beating and machismo and angst and Mr. North Potomac in his SUV can't go any faster than a guy on a CABI.

I agree that, certainly in DC or other city traffic, this is what bugs drivers most about bicyclists. You're sitting there in your car, going nowhere, while the person on the bicycle is moving.

And then, of course, there's the assumption that people not in cars should make way for people in cars. (I have never read any complaints, anywhere, from pedestrians or bicyclists about the inconsiderateness of drivers driving their cars at the same time that pedestrians/bicyclists are trying to get to work.) Although, to be sure, US society has designed its transportation systems based on this assumption for at least the last 70 years, so it's not surprising that people don't question it.

So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...), presumably because they want to be treated as if they were an actual car, and then they want to be able to use the far side of the road, instead of waiting in line like an actual vehicle?

Yes, this is exactly why people hate cyclists. The absolute self absorption, the demand of being treated "like a vehicle" when it suits them, and disregarding it as soon as its convenient. It's laughable, absurd, and contemptible. Which is why most people see cyclists and look down on them.

They want to be able to share most roads, but not have identical rights. I am not interested in the right to bike on I395, for example. Filtering to the right actually helps urban traffic to flow better. Not that you would know.

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So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...), presumably because they want to be treated as if they were an actual car, and then they want to be able to use the far side of the road, instead of waiting in line like an actual vehicle?

Yes, this is exactly why people hate cyclists. The absolute self absorption, the demand of being treated "like a vehicle" when it suits them, and disregarding it as soon as its convenient. It's laughable, absurd, and contemptible. Which is why most people see cyclists and look down on them.

Different laws apply to different vehicles. Operators of cars have one set of laws. Operators of bicycles have another set of laws. Operators of other vehicles (for example, horse-drawn buggies) have another set of laws. Some of the laws overlap, some of the laws are different. In this case, is legal for bicyclists to pass the line of cars.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so annoying. Then when you are finally able to pass them, they act as though they are so focused and start pedaling furiously. You KNOW it's rush hour and you're inconveniencing people in cars going to work or other places. Yet, you, in your specialness, you think, "Hey, it's 8:00/9:00, let me go get my bikey wikey and ride down one of the busiest streets I can find. If you have time to ride at this hour, then obviously, you don't have to be at work at that hour like the rest of us do! Just go another time.

You annoy me by driving your car on MY road. Me and my car are more important than you and you should just get off the road and out of MY way. What are you even doing? Going to yoga and starbucks? I am more important than you so go away.

ROADS are built for CARS dumba$$.

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Anonymous wrote:It's so annoying. Then when you are finally able to pass them, they act as though they are so focused and start pedaling furiously. You KNOW it's rush hour and you're inconveniencing people in cars going to work or other places. Yet, you, in your specialness, you think, "Hey, it's 8:00/9:00, let me go get my bikey wikey and ride down one of the busiest streets I can find. If you have time to ride at this hour, then obviously, you don't have to be at work at that hour like the rest of us do! Just go another time.

You annoy me by driving your car on MY road. Me and my car are more important than you and you should just get off the road and out of MY way. What are you even doing? Going to yoga and starbucks? I am more important than you so go away.

ROADS are built for CARS dumba$$.

I bet I can show you a road that was there before the car. I'll start with the Appian Way and end with Wisconsin Avenue. Two roads that predate cars.

dumbass.

[Anonymous]

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So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...),

Perhaps you are not aware of the reputation Maryland drivers have around the region?

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So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...),

Perhaps you are not aware of the reputation Maryland drivers have around the region?

Are you the same fool who wandered into this thread and then questioned why people were bringing up River Road and MD routes?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hmmm.. I think roads were paved so that CARS could drive on them. At some point cyclists decided they had a right to muscle in on the roads built for CARS. It is so annoying.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Roads were paved for horses pulling buggies. The first bikes are from the 1800's and predate cars.

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So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...), presumably because they want to be treated as if they were an actual car, and then they want to be able to use the far side of the road, instead of waiting in line like an actual vehicle?

Yes, this is exactly why people hate cyclists. The absolute self absorption, the demand of being treated "like a vehicle" when it suits them, and disregarding it as soon as its convenient. It's laughable, absurd, and contemptible. Which is why most people see cyclists and look down on them.

Different laws apply to different vehicles. Operators of cars have one set of laws. Operators of bicycles have another set of laws. Operators of other vehicles (for example, horse-drawn buggies) have another set of laws. Some of the laws overlap, some of the laws are different. In this case, is legal for bicyclists to pass the line of cars.

Cool. In that case, I'll blow past you easily. If that's how it is, stick to the side of the road like the shrimp you are

[Anonymous]

Cyclists do themselves no favors whenever they try to defend themselves. They all tend to gang up (or try to) on anyone who comes into the thread. No wonder everyone hates you guys and there's constant stories of cyclists being run over.

[Anonymous]

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So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...), presumably because they want to be treated as if they were an actual car, and then they want to be able to use the far side of the road, instead of waiting in line like an actual vehicle?

Yes, this is exactly why people hate cyclists. The absolute self absorption, the demand of being treated "like a vehicle" when it suits them, and disregarding it as soon as its convenient. It's laughable, absurd, and contemptible. Which is why most people see cyclists and look down on them.

Different laws apply to different vehicles. Operators of cars have one set of laws. Operators of bicycles have another set of laws. Operators of other vehicles (for example, horse-drawn buggies) have another set of laws. Some of the laws overlap, some of the laws are different. In this case, is legal for bicyclists to pass the line of cars.

Cool. In that case, I'll blow past you easily. If that's how it is, stick to the side of the road like the shrimp you are

When you're driving, please follow the laws that apply to operators of cars.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cyclists do themselves no favors whenever they try to defend themselves. They all tend to gang up (or try to) on anyone who comes into the thread. No wonder everyone hates you guys and there's constant stories of cyclists being run over.

There aren't, actually.

[Anonymous]

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Do you even live in DC? Since I assume you don't you just need to suck it up and follow the laws.

In DC the default speed limit is 25 MPH and even most casual bikers can comfortably go about 15MPH and even on arterial roads in DC the speed limit is just 30 MPH so some of the differential is actually generated by aggressive and speeding motorists.

It is especially stupid when people complain about bikes in DC - in most parts of the city during rush hour bikes can comfortably move along at the same rate as traffic. That doesn't mean they are as fast as cars on every stretch of roadway but when you factor in congestion at every single intersection the average speed on DC streets is quite low and almost always below a comfortable speed for biking.

But that is what pisses off most drivers. They get behind a biker and eventually pass them (usually illegally and dangerously) with a rage acceleration and apparently a laying on of the horn and then half a block later the cyclists coasts up to them at the next intersection.

So all that chest beating and machismo and angst and Mr. North Potomac in his SUV can't go any faster than a guy on a CABI.

I agree that, certainly in DC or other city traffic, this is what bugs drivers most about bicyclists. You're sitting there in your car, going nowhere, while the person on the bicycle is moving.

And then, of course, there's the assumption that people not in cars should make way for people in cars. (I have never read any complaints, anywhere, from pedestrians or bicyclists about the inconsiderateness of drivers driving their cars at the same time that pedestrians/bicyclists are trying to get to work.) Although, to be sure, US society has designed its transportation systems based on this assumption for at least the last 70 years, so it's not surprising that people don't question it.

So wait.... cyclists are angry about being passed by the "guy from potomac" (weird chip on your shoulder there, wonder why...), presumably because they want to be treated as if they were an actual car, and then they want to be able to use the far side of the road, instead of waiting in line like an actual vehicle?

Yes, this is exactly why people hate cyclists. The absolute self absorption, the demand of being treated "like a vehicle" when it suits them, and disregarding it as soon as its convenient. It's laughable, absurd, and contemptible. Which is why most people see cyclists and look down on them.

North Potomac - you know there is a difference right?

In any case the passing was probably illegal and dangerous but what you don't get is it was unnecessary - you didn't get ahead!

Legally in DC bikes are vehicles so yes they have the right to be treated as such. And no that right doesn't go away because some cyclists break the law just like it doesn't go away because most drivers break the law.

I would be fine with no one ever passing each other in congested urban areas. You don't rage acceleration by my to get to the next intersection 2 seconds faster and I won't weave between car lanes either at intersections when everyone else is stopped.

This would actually slow bikers down and hence result in bikes taking up an entire lane in setting where there is room for them to be more efficient and use less space which would increase the road capacity for drivers but in net that would be a much safer scenario for bikers so I'd accept that trade-off without hesitation.

Good luck finding drivers willing to accept it though.