Indiana's Religious Freedom law

[Anonymous]

If you personally are baking a cake/photographing the wedding/doing the flowers, you personally are a participant in the wedding, with all your attendant rights and liberties to be anti-gay (or "just" anti-gay-marriage). If your BUSINESS provides cakes/photography services/floral arrangements for weddings, then you have to provide your services without discriminating.

You are not your business, people. This isn't that hard.

The Supreme Court is sure making it harder, though. I agree with you it's pretty easy to see, but they saw it differently in Hobby Lobby.

[Anonymous]

I really don't get the defense I'm seeing: "I'm not a bigot! I have no problem with gays! I just don't like gay marriage!" Why do people think that that isn't discriminatory? "I'm not prejudiced! I think you're mostly people!" How is that any different than "I have no problem with Jews! I just don't think they should be allowed to marry outside their religion!"

[Anonymous]

Here's the fund site if you would like to donate.
Or if you are a liberal and would like to post instead.
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The donation amount is rising very rapidly.

I've noticed I have to refresh my page to see the latest posts and current amount donated.

http://www.gofundme.com/MemoriesPizza

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous



The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

Hope we get the list of names of people who gave money. Maybe the owners can open up a food truck to service klan rallies.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't get the defense I'm seeing: "I'm not a bigot! I have no problem with gays! I just don't like gay marriage!" Why do people think that that isn't discriminatory? "I'm not prejudiced! I think you're mostly people!" How is that any different than "I have no problem with Jews! I just don't think they should be allowed to marry outside their religion!"

Yeah and before that they were against gays in the military.
And before that they were against civil unions.
And before that they were against gay adoption.
And before that they were against gays having sex with each other.

Same hate, just a different phase.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really don't get the defense I'm seeing: "I'm not a bigot! I have no problem with gays! I just don't like gay marriage!" Why do people think that that isn't discriminatory? "I'm not prejudiced! I think you're mostly people!" How is that any different than "I have no problem with Jews! I just don't think they should be allowed to marry outside their religion!"

I agree. I think people who oppose gay marriage fail to grasp the basic rights long-term gay couples cannot enjoy- adoption, medical decision making, joint filing of taxes, and shared wealth. Its as though legal gay marriage will suddenly create millions of homosexuals when in reality, it just recognizes the reality that millions of gay people are in committed, long-term relationships (often with children) without equal legal protection.

[Anonymous]

To the right, the legal act of marriage is 'holy'. Yet they never protested extending that to atheists, people who reject the notion that God even exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous



The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

Hope we get the list of names of people who gave money. Maybe the owners can open up a food truck to service klan rallies.

Why do you want the list of names?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:To the right, the legal act of marriage is 'holy'. Yet they never protested extending that to atheists, people who reject the notion that God even exists.

Or pagans. Or wiccans. Or people who can't have kids. Or people who don't want to have kids. Or people who get married in Vegas and divorce 24 hours later. Or people who divorce at all. Or...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous



The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

Hope we get the list of names of people who gave money. Maybe the owners can open up a food truck to service klan rallies.

I hope authorities have noted your IP, just in case.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fund is up to almost $72,000 for the pizza place owners and consistently growing.

IIRC, this is sort of like what the Christian baker in Oregon described. After he refused to sell to the lesbian couple, he got a ton of orders from pro-religion / anti-gay groups nationwide, and his business was booming for six months. Then as the news articles subsided, his out-of-state business dried up. Since his local business reputation was trashed, he had to close the bakery for lack of orders. I suspect the pizza place might get the same initial support, but will face long-term problems.

I don't see how his reputation was "trashed." He is anti-gay-marriage and wouldn't provide wedding cakes to gay couples. That's not smear -- that's the truth. So, once the ruckus died down, the local market decided to vote with their feet and take their money somewhere else. Works for me.

Yea, I do not get the PP's who somehow think that these folks are somehow "entitled" to a certain amouunt of business. My religous views aside, it was dumb for a small business owner to take this sort of stand, especially in the Pacific NW. From a business perspective, he had a poor handle on his market. Further, if his views were so lauded by Christians, why didn't local Christians go out of their way to patronize him long term? That's the questions some of blaming "Libtard" rabble rousers should be asking.

Wasn't there a pharmacy that opened out in Loudon Country where the guy refused to sell birth control because it was against his religious beliefs? Last I recall, he went out of business too.

[Anonymous]

Whoa, it looks like Indiana's about to fix this. The proposed amendment looks very solid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:To the right, the legal act of marriage is 'holy'. Yet they never protested extending that to atheists, people who reject the notion that God even exists.

Or pagans. Or wiccans. Or people who can't have kids. Or people who don't want to have kids. Or people who get married in Vegas and divorce 24 hours later. Or people who divorce at all. Or...

or tv shows where marriage is the prize.

Yes, those Gays will surely destroy the sanctity of marriage.

[Anonymous]

Almost 4,200 donations at a rate of about 5 donations per minute. I've only looked at tiny fraction of the amounts but spotted a $500 donation. Most are from $10 to $25 but even $50 and even $100 appears not infrequently.

It's infuriating many posters there. One poster has been making up lies about the female owner all morning. I hope she gets sued for liable.