McLean hish school porn site -Wash Post

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Anonymous wrote:So all you moms see nothing wrong with the girls posting nude selfies on social media? I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the girls sent them directly to the Dropbox themselves. Without the girls' naked pics, the boys would have been playing Call of Duty.

Another misogynistic attempt to blame the girls for leading the poor, innocent boys astray. One can't help but wonder if this is the general atmosphere at the high school involved in this case or just the attitude of a few individuals?

If you want the girls to take responsibility for their possible actions you need to accept that the actions of the boys were far more blame-worthy. It took time and effort to put this site together. The difference in the level of culpability has been noted numerous times. It does a child no favors to make excuses and blame others for their actions.

"It does a child no favors to make excuses and blame others for their actions." This applies equally to the girls.

Sorry, but it only applies equally if the girls both took the pictures themselves and then put them together into a website and circulated links so others could view them. At this time, there is nothing in the news indicating the girls took the pictures themselves and two boys are being investigated for starting, owning, and/or operating the website where 52 folders of pictures, 24 of which were labeled with names, were found.
It does not appear that the boys in question were dragged or forced in any way to keep, organize, and distribute these pictures. The people in the pictures were held up for embarrassment and have been placed in danger.
It is much worse to embarrass others and put people in danger than it is to do something foolish thinking someone is romantically interested in you. In terms of character, it is far worse to take advantage of another's vulnerability to put them in a position of embarrassment and possible danger.

You should get your child into therapy. I am sorry she is embarrassed by her actions. I am sorry she learned at an early age that she can't trust somebody that she loves. Luckily she is underage, because if she were 18 the pictures are legal and can never be recovered.

I'm not sure why you would assume that anyone who is interested in the facts and the outcome of this case would necessarily be personally involved. I live no where near McLean High School and know no one involved in the case.

I got interested when I read this thread and saw the posts blaming the girls whose pictures were placed on this site. When one kid bullies another kid do we blame the kid who has been bullied? Not usually. If a woman walks down the street with her purse hanging open and her wallet showing, she is foolish. If someone reaches in and steals her wallet, do we excuse the thief because the woman foolishly left her purse open?

Foolish actions versus premeditating and spending the time and effort to collect numerous pictures, put them on a website, and then send out links so others could view the pictures? You don't need to be a lawyer to see which actions here have caused more harm to others. It's difficult to see why anyone would excuse actions that purposely embarrass and endanger others.

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It's not like a woman walking down a street with a purse open and a thief takes her wallet! It's more that that the woman handed over her wallet and then was surprised by what the recipient did with the wallet.

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No one is saying the boys are blameless. Many are saying the girls are blameless. I'm curious how many of you are actually parenting teens.

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like a woman walking down a street with a purse open and a thief takes her wallet! It's more that that the woman handed over her wallet and then was surprised by what the recipient did with the wallet.

more specifically, it is like a teenager handed over their wallet to another teenager, no adults involved, only under aged teenagers

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Anonymous wrote:It's not like a woman walking down a street with a purse open and a thief takes her wallet! It's more that that the woman handed over her wallet and then was surprised by what the recipient did with the wallet.

more specifically, it is like a teenager handed over their wallet to another teenager, no adults involved, only under aged teenagers

You're (more) right. I was just astounded by the "it's like she left her wallet in view and a thief took advantage of her foolishness" (non) analogy.

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Anonymous wrote:So all you moms see nothing wrong with the girls posting nude selfies on social media? I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the girls sent them directly to the Dropbox themselves. Without the girls' naked pics, the boys would have been playing Call of Duty.

Another misogynistic attempt to blame the girls for leading the poor, innocent boys astray. One can't help but wonder if this is the general atmosphere at the high school involved in this case or just the attitude of a few individuals?

If you want the girls to take responsibility for their possible actions you need to accept that the actions of the boys were far more blame-worthy. It took time and effort to put this site together. The difference in the level of culpability has been noted numerous times. It does a child no favors to make excuses and blame others for their actions.

"It does a child no favors to make excuses and blame others for their actions." This applies equally to the girls.

Sorry, but it only applies equally if the girls both took the pictures themselves and then put them together into a website and circulated links so others could view them. At this time, there is nothing in the news indicating the girls took the pictures themselves and two boys are being investigated for starting, owning, and/or operating the website where 52 folders of pictures, 24 of which were labeled with names, were found.
It does not appear that the boys in question were dragged or forced in any way to keep, organize, and distribute these pictures. The people in the pictures were held up for embarrassment and have been placed in danger.
It is much worse to embarrass others and put people in danger than it is to do something foolish thinking someone is romantically interested in you. In terms of character, it is far worse to take advantage of another's vulnerability to put them in a position of embarrassment and possible danger.

You should get your child into therapy. I am sorry she is embarrassed by her actions. I am sorry she learned at an early age that she can't trust somebody that she loves. Luckily she is underage, because if she were 18 the pictures are legal and can never be recovered.

I'm not sure why you would assume that anyone who is interested in the facts and the outcome of this case would necessarily be personally involved. I live no where near McLean High School and know no one involved in the case.

I got interested when I read this thread and saw the posts blaming the girls whose pictures were placed on this site. When one kid bullies another kid do we blame the kid who has been bullied? Not usually. If a woman walks down the street with her purse hanging open and her wallet showing, she is foolish. If someone reaches in and steals her wallet, do we excuse the thief because the woman foolishly left her purse open?

Foolish actions versus premeditating and spending the time and effort to collect numerous pictures, put them on a website, and then send out links so others could view the pictures? You don't need to be a lawyer to see which actions here have caused more harm to others. It's difficult to see why anyone would excuse actions that purposely embarrass and endanger others.

It is not illegal to leave your purse open, stupid yes, not illegal.

It is illegal to give port to a child. These girls gave porn to underage boys. Why do they ignore that the girls committed a crime, because they are young and foolish GIRLS. You can't say it is illegal for boys and not illegal for girls.

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It is illegal to give port and porn to a child. But I meant porn.

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So, the newspaper article indicated that not all of the pictures involved nudity. Are all the girl-blamers as outraged by a picture of a girl in a bathing suit by a pool? What if a picture like that were downloaded and ended up on a child porn site with the child's name attached as a result of being included on the dropbox account? Are you okay with that outcome?

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I'm so curious what these posters are teaching their kids (if anything) about posting on social media. Or all you kids preschoolers? It's obvious that the parenting around here really needs to step up.

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Anonymous wrote:So, the newspaper article indicated that not all of the pictures involved nudity. Are all the girl-blamers as outraged by a picture of a girl in a bathing suit by a pool? What if a picture like that were downloaded and ended up on a child porn site with the child's name attached as a result of being included on the dropbox account? Are you okay with that outcome?

Don't be ridiculous. Let's just stick to the facts we already (don't) have.

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, what the girls did was criminal. They produced child porn and then they showed it to a minor.

And all the receiver needed to do was hit "delete." No one forced anyone to open a website, compile and label pictures, and send out links so others could view the pictures. Many more counts of possible criminal activity for the ones involved in the creating and organizing of the website.

No. Actually "deleting" is called destroying criminal evidence - the crime being creation (by girls) and distribution of (by girls) child porn.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so curious what these posters are teaching their kids (if anything) about posting on social media. Or all you kids preschoolers? It's obvious that the parenting around here really needs to step up.

Girls post slutty pictures on instagram all the time. I tell my son not to like or comment on slutty or racist posts. I say no pictures of bodies unless the bodies are in public, like on the beach. I don't need to see your abs if you are in a bathroom or in your bedroom. If you are on the beach, you can take a picture of your six pack.

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To 8:53 above:

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Anonymous wrote:Actually, what the girls did was criminal. They produced child porn and then they showed it to a minor.

And all the receiver needed to do was hit "delete." No one forced anyone to open a website, compile and label pictures, and send out links so others could view the pictures. Many more counts of possible criminal activity for the ones involved in the creating and organizing of the website.

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Anonymous wrote:I will flat out say it. I blame the boys more than the girls if the girls did not intend for the pictures to become public. While I would prefer that my daughter not send her boyfriend naked pictures, I see that as way more acceptable in the context of a loving relationship (or what she mistakenly thinks is a loving relationship -- weren't we all in love in high school) than breaching your girlfriend's trust and circulating or posting pictures for all to see.

Please teach your kids that when they post on the internet, they have no expectation of privacy.

What about when they send something in a private email? Still no expectation of privacy?

NP. I'm an adult and expect zero privacy online now. I was about to write something to my husband the other day, and thought about writing it to his gmail, rather than his work e-mail. I thought about it and realized that it wasn't something I'd ever want someone to read, and so I waited to call him--he was out of town in a different time zone.

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Ok, so the girls can send pics of themselves "posing naked" (according to WaPo) but the recipients should have just "hit delete."