ICE Shooting in Minneapolis

[Anonymous]

This is so shocking and awful. Has the victim been identified?

I’ve watched all of the posted video clips. The way those men move, the way they shout ‘get the F out of the car’ and reach in to grab her, the shooting, the way the murderer pulled his neck warmer higher up to cover his profile: these are very dangerous and angry men, and a part of their anger is pure misogyny. The thread reflects this, “Karens” FAFO, and so forth. It is terrifying to me.

It’s working on me. I am afraid to protest. I have only one chance to mother and parent my DC, and I want a better world. The fear is working on me. This woman had an enshrined right to protest in 1A, was given contradictory orders, and was murdered in day light. All of the clowns laughing about this here and insisting it was self-defense, my god. Look at the rage that man felt, look at how entitled he was to kill when she was pulling away, and following at least one order. Would any of us not feel terrified to be a citizen and thus presumably not being subject to arrest on an immigration charge, surrounded by shouting and swearing and heavily armed men? Who are we anymore?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we all agree that we don't want ICE shooting and killing people? That such a thing is wrong? And we're lucky that more lives weren't lost -- look at how that car careens out of control after the ICE agent killed the driver. Aren't officers trained not to shoot drivers in moving vehicles?

Things need to deescalate, and unfortunately, we don't have an administration that will allow such a thing.

I think the masks freak people out.

Just don't block ICE agents from their lawful duty.

I still don't understand why the left is so adamant at ICE removing illegal migrants from the US. Every country does this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Plenty of precedent for officers to use lethal force against someone driving a car at them.

Fox news (local affiliate I think) had video (and I was impressed by the news anchors showing it). I've had physical contact from a vehicle at least twice I can think of where the vehicle was going faster than this, for example a woman turning right on red while I was crossing a street with the light, she was on a phone. It was weird because her car pushed at me and somehow I was trying to push back, it sort of pushed me out of the way without me so much as losing my footing (and then she realized what she was doing and yelled an apology out the window). It looks like a one way street, cars parked same direction on both sides of residential street, and Minnesota streets are narrower in the winter than when there is no snow, Tricia says "rioters" but there are just a small number of civilians here and there, no signs, and some may just be from the neighborhood. Looks like she had probably been parked on the street earlier which would mean she would be a local resident. It does NOT look like she is trying to run anyone over, but they are moving to her vehicle as she is maneuvering.

This was a targeted investigation and she was not the target.

You ca see blood on the snow and what looks like a woman bystander leaning into the vehicle to try to help her, and white clothing with blood on in underneath the woman leaning in.

ICE has repeatedly acted with excessive force towards people who have been literal bystanders (like the guy who got pepper sprayed in his face along with his baby trying to leave Sam's Club after realizing ICE was in the area and it was not a good time to shop) and alleged assault from people they have bumped into.

Why was she there? What were intentions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can we all agree that we don't want ICE shooting and killing people? That such a thing is wrong? And we're lucky that more lives weren't lost -- look at how that car careens out of control after the ICE agent killed the driver. Aren't officers trained not to shoot drivers in moving vehicles?

Things need to deescalate, and unfortunately, we don't have an administration that will allow such a thing.

Just don't block ICE agents from their lawful duty.

I still don't understand why the left is so adamant at ICE removing illegal migrants from the US. Every country does this.

Zero of them murder women in the street because they hurt their “agents” feelings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can we all agree that we don't want ICE shooting and killing people? That such a thing is wrong? And we're lucky that more lives weren't lost -- look at how that car careens out of control after the ICE agent killed the driver. Aren't officers trained not to shoot drivers in moving vehicles?

Things need to deescalate, and unfortunately, we don't have an administration that will allow such a thing.

Correct, but how does one deescalate a 4,000 pound moving vehicle aimed by them driven erratically by one escaping from law enforcement officers ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In this new video, it appears she actually struck one of the officers before crashing into a parked car:

Interesting.

It does look like she hit him.

I don’t think she was trying to hurt him. “Ramming” is not happening here. She was going so slow that she probably thought he would just move.

https://twitter.com/i/status/2008973759097733306

She hit him as seen in the video! She absolutely was trying to hurt him. She chose NOT to move her vehicle as initially instructed until an ICE agent was in front of her. She also was quickly accelerating. This is not a car that's moving slowly.

I would be trying to get the hell out of the way if a masked thug had his gun out and another was pulling on my door handle too. People trying to justify this are ridiculous. She wasn't trying to run anyone over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Under no circumstance should an officer of the law, who is under no threat whatsover, shoot at an unarmed civilian, even if that civilian is disobeying orders.

This was a situation caught on tape where the unarmed civilian was absolutely not trying to hurt officers of the law. She was very obviously trying to evade the law and the directions of the officers, who were telling her to "get out of the f***ing car" (rude).

But merely disobeying orders should not lead to murder.

This was murder.

It's not ICE's first murder. They ARE the Gestapo and they don't care who they kill

Press conference: Mayor Jacob Frey told ICE to “get the f*ck out of Minneapolis.”

It’s a start.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is so shocking and awful. Has the victim been identified?

I’ve watched all of the posted video clips. The way those men move, the way they shout ‘get the F out of the car’ and reach in to grab her, the shooting, the way the murderer pulled his neck warmer higher up to cover his profile: these are very dangerous and angry men, and a part of their anger is pure misogyny. The thread reflects this, “Karens” FAFO, and so forth. It is terrifying to me.

It’s working on me. I am afraid to protest. I have only one chance to mother and parent my DC, and I want a better world. The fear is working on me. This woman had an enshrined right to protest in 1A, was given contradictory orders, and was murdered in day light. All of the clowns laughing about this here and insisting it was self-defense, my god. Look at the rage that man felt, look at how entitled he was to kill when she was pulling away, and following at least one order. Would any of us not feel terrified to be a citizen and thus presumably not being subject to arrest on an immigration charge, surrounded by shouting and swearing and heavily armed men? Who are we anymore?

It was only a matter of time. ICE is going out of their way to hire bottom of the barrel goons and thugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The video is pretty clear in that she was driving AWAY…

After being told to move her car as well.

The acceleration doesn't happen until after she was shot, you can't control your feet when you're dead.

[Anonymous]

It's okay to protest police actions, but it is illegal to interfere with the discharge of an officer's legal duty.

Stay out of the way with a sign & yell to your heart's content, but don't endanger the health or safety of anyone when protesting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video is pretty clear in that she was driving AWAY…

After being told to move her car as well.

The acceleration doesn't happen until after she was shot, you can't control your feet when you're dead.

No one told her to move. They told her to get out of her car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if she was driving towards him (which I don't think was on purpose, she was just trying to get away and he was standing in the street), wouldn't it have taken less time for him to run/dive/jump out of the way than to shoot someone three times so accurately that you hit and kill them immediately?

You Monday morning quarterbacks are HILARIOUS. How many life threatening situations have you been in? Have you ever actually held or fired a gun?

Why was his gun out?? There was zero reason for him to have his gun out. ICE is nothing but a gang of trigger happy thugs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's okay to protest police actions, but it is illegal to interfere with the discharge of an officer's legal duty.

Stay out of the way with a sign & yell to your heart's content, but don't endanger the health or safety of anyone when protesting.

Even if this were true, blocking a road isn't a death sentence.

[Anonymous]

Based on the video being shown on 24 hour news stations (CNN, etc.), the case comes down to the ICE agent's perception in that instant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The video is pretty clear in that she was driving AWAY…

After being told to move her car as well.

The acceleration doesn't happen until after she was shot, you can't control your feet when you're dead.

No one told her to move. They told her to get out of her car.

Watch the video, they yell conflicting statements at her.