Kennedy Hearing

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cassidy had the opportunity to vote against confirming RFK Jr. and chose not to. Mitch McConnell could have shown some leadership at the 2nd impeachment and had Trump convicted and banned from seeking further elective office, which would have been the appropriate consequences for Jan. 6th. Neither chose to exhibit any statesmanship or courage. We will wind up with a major outbreak of some entirely preventable disease thanks to these lunatics.

Correction: these cowards.

[Anonymous]

It was hilarious hearing Bernie incredulously ask RFK if he really thought everyone was corrupted by taking pharma money as if the idea were stupid. It’s like Bernie switched dimensions and inhabits a world where a pack of Bernie bros can nurse their PBRs in some dive bar while talking about how payments from special interests are no big deal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

lol, “vaccine people.”

You mean “science people?”

“Reality people?”

This weird backwards anti-vax movement is the worst kind of cult. At least things like Scientology don’t really affect the population. The anti-science nuts like you are much more dangerous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

This old trope is stupid!

Two of my family members got polio in the 1930s. Nutrition and sanitation were fine in their home.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

Trump wants to send us back to ancient history, getting rid of vaccines that helped treat things that historically killed millions, like measles, influenza, polio, and so on. Trump is gutting the EPA which gives us clean, safe water to drink, gutting FDA and consumer product safety agencies which help ensure the food we eat is safe and that the products we use are safe, he's gutting the CDC which helps prevent the spread of diseases, he's gutting worker safety and everything else. Open your damn eyes. He's making us into a primitive third world nation that doesn't have any of those things you take for granted.

[Anonymous]

JD Vance tweeted that the highest and best use of our military is to kill people poisoning our fellow citizens. When are the missiles being fired at disease spreaders?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

Millions died of Covid just 5 years ago, in countries with perfectly good sanitation and medical care.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

I don't know. Why were MAGA wearing menstrual pads on their ears and thinking gold diapers look manly? Nobody can explain their idiocy. It's a pattern, though. Sorry. Ask them.

[Anonymous]

The vaccine deniers are data deniers. And the ones claiming the vaccines are dangerous are straight-up deranged and delusional. The vaccines absolutely did save millions of lives.

[Anonymous]

The vaccines saved millions of lives, both old and young. After the vaccine rollouts, covid deaths were overwhelmingly among the unvaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

This old trope is stupid!

Two of my family members got polio in the 1930s. Nutrition and sanitation were fine in their home.

I'm a pediatrician. One of my colleagues with a limp just retired.

His mother just missed getting him his firs polio vaccine before he caught it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If I were president, I would establish a commission to determine the truth about vaccinations.

The “truth” about vaccines generally, is well established.

The fact that you think that medical knowledge is static tells me you understand nothing about science.

The reason you want medical experts to meet annually is that the “truth”changes every time a new study is published. That is why you need EXPERTS who can judge scientific rigor and make evidence-based recommendations.

Kennedy, is not only unqualified, but his main hiring criterion seems to be finding men who share his quacky biases.

Vaccines wouldn’t need their own court system if they were as safe as people claim.

People are particularly weirdly obsessed about vaccines, and that includes both plaintiffs and regular people in the jury bench.

If you could make sure any voting jury member had passed a test assessing basic biology and vaccine facts understanding -- even at a college freshman level -- you'd be fine.

But this thread shows how whackadoo these people are just milling about.

So you're saying people take vaxxes and then just randomly want to sue drug companies for no good reason? And for some reason this is different than how people approach any other medicine?

No, yeah, see -- this is why you would be utter patootie on a jury. There are things like the difference between correlation and causation, the fallacy of post hoc ergo propter hoc, statistical analysis, and the like, that aren't even on your radar.

Those are fancy terms, but they aren't fancy ideas. People have been believing in snake oil curing cancer, or that some vaccine magnetized them so they can stick keys on their foreheads, or such stuff, for forever. That's just the way a lot of ignorant or misled people walk through the world.

It's not "randomly suing." It's not that nothing happened. It's just that some people confuse it happening with it necessarily being caused by something, despite the massive weight of evidence to the contrary. And yes, for some reason, vaccines have a special little gold pedestal in their minds. I don't know why -- ask them. Ask yourself. You all don't make sense to me.

How is that different from any other medical intervention? Why don’t people make the same claims about antibiotics or knee replacements?

It’s only with vaccines that we’ve decided as a nation that two contemporaneous events are absolutely unrelated. Even when the package insert says it can cause that outcome.

Vaccines can’t cause anything but a little soreness in some people’s minds.

It’s clear that vaccines are a modern sacrement which thou shall not question.

Sometime check out a midwestern cemetery with stones going back to the 1880s. Sometimes you might see stones that have 4 faces, with a name on each face, and you will see the names of children who died within days of each other. That was diphtheria.

The difference really started with the phony claims about MMR vaccine and autism, which spread widely, but exploded with Covid. But you know what? It's not just vaccines. Doctors talk about patients who now refuse chemo for their treatable cancers, opting for ivermectin treatment instead. And then their cancers become untreatable. Almost nobody heard of ivermectin before it got touted as a cure for covid, and now apparently it can cure anything.

If you want to see a sacrament--belief without evidence, isn't that what faith is said to be?--that's definitely one.

I like how the vaccine people always reach back into ancient history, when nutrition, sanitation and other medical care were primitive to scare people. No one likes to talk about what the diseases were like just before the vaccines get introduced, when numbers are already low and declining.

Trump wants to send us back to ancient history, getting rid of vaccines that helped treat things that historically killed millions, like measles, influenza, polio, and so on. Trump is gutting the EPA which gives us clean, safe water to drink, gutting FDA and consumer product safety agencies which help ensure the food we eat is safe and that the products we use are safe, he's gutting the CDC which helps prevent the spread of diseases, he's gutting worker safety and everything else. Open your damn eyes. He's making us into a primitive third world nation that doesn't have any of those things you take for granted.

Bolded above — nope you are wrong. . Trumps words, what he actually believes:

“You have some vaccines that are so incredible. And I think you have to be very careful when you say that some people don’t have to be vaccinated. It’s a tough stance. Look, you have vaccines that work… They’re not controversial at all. And I think those vaccines should be used”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/09/06/vaccine-school-mandate-measles-polio-flu-covid/

Let’s stick to the facts please.